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Is FOX news biased?

Is FOX News biased?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 82.0%

  • No

    Votes: 9 14.8%

  • I don't know.

    Votes: 2 3.3%
  • Total voters
    61
niftydrifty said:
It's really, truly, and utterly amazing when the debate becomes a back-and-forth about what the debate was even about. All one has to do is read the question.

It's absolutely no coincidence that the folks whom have a hard time interpreting simple instructions, or whom refuse to follow guidelines, are the same folks that consider Fox to be news, or to be less biased than other networks.
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My thoughts exatcly.
 
niftydrifty said:
Kandahar said they post his middle name on the news ticker. I've seen that too. You said you've never "seen or heard Fox News call Obama "Barack Hussein Obama," so I gave you some examples from their website. You said, "which of these links do you want me to read?"

I responded to Stinger and said, "There are several mentions of "Barack Hussein Obama" in Fox News Transcripts on Lexis Nexis. The first was in December 2006 on and the last a few days ago, during an interview with Ann Coulter. He was only referred to as such AFTER he became a possible candidate for the Democrat Presidential nomination." I responded to TOT and said, "Fox started using Obama's middle name only after he became a candidate."

I have no idea why you're asking me to tell you what I've said. I'm saying
what I'm saying, not anything different. Read my posts.
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I watch Fox News all the time and I have never seen Obama's middle name at the bottom ticker. I would like to see proof of this.

You posted some kind of Google search with many links. Which one do you specifically want me to look at?
 
conserv.pat said:
You posted some kind of Google search with many links. Which one do you specifically want me to look at?
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any of them.

You said you've never "seen or heard Fox News call Obama "Barack Hussein Obama." Now you have.

question for you, Pat. Is FOX NEWS biased? Yes or No?
 
niftydrifty said:
any of them.

You said you've never "seen or heard Fox News call Obama "Barack Hussein Obama." Now you have.

question for you, Pat. Is FOX NEWS biased? Yes or No?
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Barack Hussein Obama Jr. is the son of a Kenyan father and a white mother. He offers himself as a cross-generational politician who wants to move beyond the fallout from the 1960s and break the conventional left and right, liberal-conservative pigeonholes of American politics.
FOXNews.com - Barack Obama Ponders Presidential Bid Amid Political Popularity - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

This is just his backgroud being described.

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Sen. Barack Obama says he may have to overcome questions about his inexperience, stereotypes about his race and even a middle name that reminds Americans of Iraq's former dictator.

Despite all that, the Illinois Democrat received plenty of encouragement to enter the presidential race during an initial trip to this pivotal campaign state.

Barack Hussein Obama drew the kind of political frenzy that is commonplace in New Hampshire in the final month before the nation's first presidential primary.
FOXNews.com - Democrats Encourage Sen. Obama to Run for President in 2008 - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Obama brought up his middle name here.

"If your name is Barack Hussein Obama, you can expect it, some of that. I think the majority of voters know that I'm a member of the United Church of Christ, and that I take my faith seriously," Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press.
FOXNews.com - Obama Stresses Appreciation for Faith - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

This is Obama's quote.

Question 6: In a memoir written 11 years ago, presidential front-runner Barack Obama (D-IL) admitted to using marijuana and cocaine. Of the following, which is NOT true of Obama?

A. He is the first White House contender to admit trying cocaine
B. He is the only African American currently serving in the U.S. Senate
C. His father is a native of Illinois
D. His full name is Barack Hussein Obama
FOXNews.com - How Much News Do You Know? - FOX Fan

What is wrong with the usage of his middle name here?

Overall, the claim that Fox News always calls Obama "Barack Hussein Obama" is non existant in terms of bias.
 
conserv.pat15 said:
Overall, the claim that Fox News always calls Obama "Barack Hussein Obama" is non existant in terms of bias.
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and that was a claim I never made. if you can find me saying it, I'll make every post from now on be in praise of President Bush! you're imagining things.

question for you, Pat. did Fox ever use Obama's middle name before it looked like he might seek the Democrap Presidential nomination?

another question for you, Pat. Is FOX NEWS biased? Yes or No?
 
niftydrifty said:
and that was a claim I never made. if you can find me saying it, I'll make every post from now on be in praise of President Bush! you're imagining things.
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Then don't post pointless articles.

question for you, Pat. did Fox ever use Obama's middle name before it looked like he might seek the Democrap Presidential nomination?
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I don't know. He wasn't talked about as much before he became a Democratic Presidential nominee.

another question for you, Pat. Is FOX NEWS biased? Yes or No?
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The way they present the news is not biased. The opinion parts lean conservative, but they still present both sides when debating. For example, they always have a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist when debating political issues.
 
Hey Conserv.pat! I see that somebody else thinks FOX ain't biased. :rofl

That's enough for a tea party! :mrgreen:

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Just yankin' yer chain bro. Have a great day.

Peace.
 
conserv.pat15 said:
Then don't post pointless articles.
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LOL! they showed Fox calling him that and you admitted it. you even pasted them doing it.

conserv.pat15 said:
For example, they always have a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist when debating political issues.
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do they?

If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?

I can't tell you how many times I've tuned in to see Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles SourKrauthammer talking about Iraq with no lefty in sight.
 
FOX news has, on occassion, has presented several outlandish leftwing baffoons and weak limp-wristed "democrats" on thier shows to chime in "for the other side" as if they were truly representitive of the left-of-center crowd but rarely, if ever, will you see them put two intelligent, strong orators from the "other side" (apples-to-apples, so to speak) in the ring together on level ground. And if they ever did, their editing department would be working overtime to get the propaganda sliced and diced to favor their outcome.

I remember back during the last prez race, and the campaign that ran up to it, they DID put fair, intelligent guests on from the other side. Only to shout them down and not let them get a word in edgewise.

FOX not biased. That's about the craziest thing I heard since my wife told me she locked her keys in the convertable and she can't get in to put the top up. Puh-leeeeze.:roll:
 
conserv.pat15 said:
I don't know. He wasn't talked about as much before he became a Democratic Presidential nominee.
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fortunately for you, you are speaking to someone whom does know. (I am a professional researcher.) Obama was discussed just as much as any other first term senator on Fox before he became a candidate.

according to Lexis Nexis Fox News transcripts, Obama appears 96 times between 1/1/2006 and 11/30/2006. in all, he appears 206 times before 12/1/2006. (Keep in mind that the transcripts are not every word spoken on the network, just most of the pundit shows).

the first mention of "Barack Hussein Obama" (according to Lexis Nexis) was on 12/5/2006, on Brit Hume's program. by that time it was looking more and more like he was definitely going to run.
 
niftydrifty said:
LOL! they showed Fox calling him that and you admitted it. you even pasted them doing it.
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I never said they didn't say it. I said that I never heard them say it and that their use of Obama's middle name is not bias. Other news companies say it also.

do they?

If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?

I can't tell you how many times I've tuned in to see Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles SourKrauthammer talking about Iraq with no lefty in sight.
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I don't recall ever seeing that panel. Can you show an example of when that panel was used?

Are Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer "Republican strategists?"

I already said that they lean conservative in some aspects.
 
Imagine if our president was named George Adolph Bush.

And people tried to relate him to Hitler by making his middle name, Adolph, prominent when referring to him. Kinda like Navy Pride does to Obama. How would you folks take that? How should anybody take that?

We should all just be glad our mama's didn't name us Sue.
 
niftydrifty said:
fortunately for you, you are speaking to someone whom does know. (I am a professional researcher.) Obama was discussed just as much as any other first term senator on Fox before he became a candidate.
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I never said he wasn't. What I am saying is that Obama is talked about more often now than before he became a Democratic Presidential nominee.

according to Lexis Nexis Fox News transcripts, Obama appears 96 times between 1/1/2006 and 11/30/2006. in all, he appears 206 times before 12/1/2006. (Keep in mind that the transcripts are not every word spoken on the network, just most of the pundit shows).



the first mention of "Barack Hussein Obama" (according to Lexis Nexis) was on 12/5/2006, on Brit Hume's program. by that time it was looking more and more like he was definitely going to run.
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And...
 
Every news agency is biased. They have a specific audience and must tailor their media to the expectations of that audience. News agencies are commercial entities that requires ratings to make money.

News agencies will not stop being biased until it is not run by those looking to get the highest ratings.
 
Gibberish said:
Every news agency is biased. They have a specific audience and must tailor their media to the expectations of that audience. News agencies are commercial entities that requires ratings to make money.

News agencies will not stop being biased until it is not run by those looking to get the highest ratings.
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Well now, that's not very gibberish at all. I agree 100%.
 
conser.pat15 said:
I never said they didn't say it.
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please tell me where I said you did. why do I have to remind you what it is we're talking about and why do you keep moving the goalposts?
conserv.pat15 said:
I said that I never heard them say it ...
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you said that at first, yes. and I helped you, I thought, by showing you when they did.

conserv.pat15 said:
...and that their use of Obama's middle name is not bias.
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and this is what you started saying after you were shown that they did.

conserv.pat15 said:
Other news companies say it also.
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but they're not the topic, and if they do, it shows a similar bias also.
conserv.pat15 said:
I don't recall ever seeing that panel. Can you show an example of when that panel was used?
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I'd love to dig it up for you. care to answer some of my questions also?

this isn't the exactly the same discussion that I saw, but on Feb 5, 2005, on Brit Hume's show, he had Brit Hume, Brian Wilson, Carl Cameron, Fred Barnes, Mort Kondracke, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Chris Wallace, and Juan Williams all on to discuss the State of the Union speech. How many Liberals in that bunch?

conserv.pat15 said:
Are Fred Barnes, Bill Kristol, and Charles Krauthammer "Republican strategists?"
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essentially they are. but what I said in connection with me bringing them up was, "If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?" you neglected to answer that question.

conserv.pat15 said:
I already said that they lean conservative in some aspects.
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to say this, is to effectively say that Fox leans Liberal in some aspects. Just what aspects would those be, Pat? Please answer. how does Fox News lean Liberal in some aspects?

conserv.pat15 said:
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all I can do is lead you to the water, Pat. the rest is up to you.
 
niftydrifty said:
please tell me where I said you did. why do I have to remind you what it is we're talking about and why do you keep moving the goalposts?
you said that at first, yes. and I helped you, I thought, by showing you when they did.

and this is what you started saying after you were shown that they did.

but they're not the topic, and if they do, it shows a similar bias also.
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I never said that Fox News has never said Obama's middle name. Therefore, you did not "help" me. I said that I have never heard them say it (Obama's middle name) or seen them use it (Obama's middle name). I also don't think Obama's middle name shows any bias in Fox News.


I'd love to dig it up for you. care to answer some of my questions also?
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I am waiting for the all conservative panel.

this isn't the exactly the same discussion that I saw, but on Feb 5, 2005, on Brit Hume's show, he had Brit Hume, Brian Wilson, Carl Cameron, Fred Barnes, Mort Kondracke, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, Chris Wallace, and Juan Williams all on to discuss the State of the Union speech. How many Liberals in that bunch?
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This panel does not prove me wrong. I said that Fox News does lean conservative in some aspects, but that they do give both sides (I said something about having a Republican strategist and a Democratic strategist.) of the issue being discussed. Mort Kondrake is not a conservative and neither is Juan Williams.

essentially they are. but what I said in connection with me bringing them up was, "If I can give you one example of an all right-wing panel discussion, will you admit that you're wrong?" you neglected to answer that question.
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I don't know if they have ever had an all conservative panel. I said that when they talk to strategists, they show a Republican and a Democrat.

to say this, is to effectively say that Fox leans Liberal in some aspects. Just what aspects would those be, Pat? Please answer. how does Fox News lean Liberal in some aspects?
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The aspects I am talking about have to do with their hosts. They do have more conservative hosts in their opinion shows.

all I can do is lead you to the water, Pat. the rest is up to you.
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OK.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
I haven't given up any rights, our constitution outlaws unreasonable searches and siezures, I hardly think that tapping the phones of those in contact with AQ members overseas would be considered unreasonable.
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Not anymore, I suggest you read and undertand the legality of the patriot act.

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
There are 1.5 billion muslims around the world if only 10% (a conservative estimate) are radicalized that is an enemy consisting of 150 million. Now it only takes one of those to get their hands on a nuclear or biological weapons to wipe out hundreds of thousands if not millions of my fellow citizens, and if my government doesn't do everything in their power to protect us from such criminals, who (make no mistake about it) would wipe out every last American given the chance, then we need new government put in their place.
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That would be a shame, but I do believe now that you pissed off those 150 million people, they are more eager than ever to get hands on a nuke, or bio/chemo attack in the US(now also the UK because of Iraq). The risk now is substantially higher for that than it was before Iraq. I agree your government should do whatever they need to protect you from that. There must be a better way than killing of their countrymen, which surely will only make them more pissed off.

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
No we let the terrorists win by nuking a U.S city, killing millions of Americans, attacking and attacking without response or repercussion, and by not defending ourselves. Your type of naive philosophy was tried under the Clinton administration who could have prevented 9-11 if not for insane policies like the Clinton-Gorelick wall which prevented the CIA and Operation able Danger from giving the FBI the name of AQ agent and ringleader of the Planes Operation Mohammad Atta. In order to engage this enemy we need a pro-active intelligence apparatus.
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You invaded the wrong country, you should have invaded North Korea instead, they are the one most likely to sell a nuclear weapon to terrorists, not Iraq. Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror, Saddam was not involved, he was not in the plane like you Americans believe. The Bush administration could also have prevented 911 if they had listened to intelligence days and months ahead of it.

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
That's a load of paranoid delusional bullshit. U.S. citizens still retain Habeas Corpus rights and the right to trial in civilian court, and strict guidelines are placed on surveilance and sneak and peak searches.
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FBI and local police can now attack whoever they want, they can arrest someone without proof, they can hold them for an unlimited time and with no rights, they can put surveilance on every US citizen and tap their communication and electronical devices. Thats not freedom in my ears. The US used to be freedom, now the free place on earth is Europe.

Trajan Octavian Titus said:
You think AQ and radical Islam is limited to 100 people? It must be nice to live in your fantasy world.
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Did I say that? Again your mind deceives itself, and twist the reality. You introduced the patriot act because of the planning and action of maybe 100 people on 911. That is the loss, you lost all those rights because of a 100 people, was it worth it?
 
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Captain America said:
Imagine if our president was named George Adolph Bush.

And people tried to relate him to Hitler by making his middle name, Adolph, prominent when referring to him. Kinda like Navy Pride does to Obama. How would you folks take that? How should anybody take that?

We should all just be glad our mama's didn't name us Sue.
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In Germany its illegal to call you child Adolf. :lol:
 
Hatuey said:
Thats a myth...isn't it? Link please?
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I dont really have a link, lets ask Volker, he can confirm this.

Around the world elsewhere its legal, but I guess no one would like to call their child Adolf anyways. The kids would suffer forever.

I did however read an article about how people with the name Adolf changed their names after the second world war. This must have been the most massive abandonment of a name ever.

Who would call their child Adolf anyways?

"little Adolf, can you please clean after youself"
"Wie geht es Adolf?"
Any use of the name brings Hitler into association.


Anyways, lets Volker be the judge. I am pretty sure it was made illegal in Germany.
 
Hatuey said:
How have I not maintained my position? Is the thread topic on CNN, MSNBC or FOX? Last time I checked it was "Is FOX News Biased" not "Is FOX news more or less biased then X".
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It's all relative.


Again. Rupert Murdock didn't say that they try to change opinion through editorials or through reporting. He said they try to shape opinion. Whatever tool they're using is irrelevant if they claim to be unbiased. If they were unbiased they wouldn't be trying to shape your opinion in any form or manner.
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Just like a newspaper and any other news agency except when they report hard news they give equal footing to both sides.

Is FOX NEWS biased? Yes or No?
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In their reporting? No. Do they have editorial opinions? Yes.
 
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