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U.S. - Russia, who wins?

Will the Ukraine lead to further Regional Conflicts?

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APACHERAT said:
Before Khrushchev the Ukraine asked to come under being a protective under the Russian Czarist back during the mid 1600's. They remained so until 1920 when the Ukraine became part of the USSR.

I think there is some comparisons to the Sudetenland during the 1930's and Crimea today.

When you have foreigners living in a country who refuse to assimilate and hold on to the customs, culture and language of their motherland, **** like this happens.

Mexico is watching closely at what Putin is doing and what little Obama can do because we are no longer the super power we were before 2009. I'm waiting for the Mexican Army to annex the city of Los Angeles.
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I thought the Mexicans had already annexed LA, but I've heard now that the conquering Mexicans are slowly being driven out by hordes of Asiatic races. With resupplies from Harry Reid and the Democrats, the Mexican forces are now charging across Nevada.

These dramatic changes in conquered American territory should be on the nightly news.
 
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Ray410 said:
I thought the Mexicans had already annexed LA, but I've heard now that the conquering Mexicans are slowly being driven out by hordes of Asiatic races. With resupplies from Harry Reid and the Democrats, the Mexican forces are now charging across Nevada.
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Los Angeles technically is under Mexican occupation. Soon Las Vegas will be under occupation. The battle lines have dropped back to the Arizona border and while the Mexicans and their leftist activist allies are attacking on one front while Obama and Eric Holder are waging guerilla warfare in the courts against Gov. Brewer and Sheriff Joe.
 
APACHERAT said:
Los Angeles technically is under Mexican occupation. Soon Las Vegas will be under occupation. The battle lines have dropped back to the Arizona border and while the Mexicans and their leftist activist allies are attacking on one front while Obama and Eric Holder are waging guerilla warfare in the courts against Gov. Brewer and Sheriff Joe.
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Dramatic news as the Western Front falls and the conquerors move Eastward! American refugees find there is no place left for them.
 
MMC said:
Heya Grip. :2wave: I see ya picked up Johnny Quests remarks about Russia. You know that one is going to go viral. :mrgreen:




If Putin does then moves to annex Crimea, another wave of sanctions, this time economic and more painful, are supposed to kick in.

But Kremlin watchers like Fyodor Lukyanov, editor of the Russian quarterly "Russia in Global Affairs," notes that Putin has already decided to annex Crimea, and that no Western sanctions will deter him.

"Putin doesn't care about what others will say," said Lukyanov. "And the West is demonstrating political dementia thinking that these individuals will be terrified by visa bans and asset freezes."

Lukyanov also bets that the Kremlin has every chance of winning — or at least stalemating — a "war of sanctions" against the U.S. and European Union.

They believe the recent build-up of Russian forces along Ukraine’s border and even Saturday’s incursion into mainland Ukraine by dozens of Russian troops - to commandeer a Crimean natural gas pumping station - are signals to the Ukrainian government in Kiev.

"It’s part of a campaign to put more pressure on Ukraine," said Andrei Soldatov, a Russian security analyst and blogger, "and to send a clear message to Kiev — leave Crimea alone or we can take more."

Whatever is up the Russian leader’s sleeve, he seems to be holding all the cards. And — as always — has left everyone guessing....snip~

What's Putin's Next Move? It's Anyone's Guess, Experts Say - NBC News

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/187296-ukrainian-crisis-2014-a-74.html

Post 733. ;)
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We've been pushing our way thru the ME for resources the last decade, and Russia finally said Nyet when it involved Syria.
I don't see Putin as a madman or tyrant but someone who has his countries interests at heart. They're not going to take any strong reactions to the Ukraine lightly.
 
Ray410 said:
Dramatic news as the Western Front falls and the conquerors move Eastward! American refugees find there is no place left for them.
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The invading enemy already has a foothold in Chicago and they have one of their allies in Congress. Rep. Luis V. Gutiérrez (D-IL).
 
Grand Mal said:
Let him have it. Crimea's only been in the Ukraine since Khrushchev put it there in '54 anyway- it was all the USSR and it was just an adminstative thing. Why does anyone care if it's returned to Russia?
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Why would anyone care if Texas was returned to Mexico? see?
 
johndylan1 said:
Why would anyone care if Texas was returned to Mexico? see?
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You mean, why would any Russian care if Texas were returned to Mexico?
 
Dittohead not! said:
US vs. Russia, who wins?
No one wins. One loses worse than the other, perhaps, but there is no winner.

That's why there is unlikely to be any real conflict between the US and Russia. There may be some leaping, hooting, rattling of sabers, and trash talk, but no real conflict.
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Putin's next step will be annexation of Alaska, which Russians consider their.
 
Grand Mal said:
You mean, why would any Russian care if Texas were returned to Mexico?
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Texas and California depart to Mexico. Louisiana- to France. Alaska to Russia, and 13 colonies to Great Britain. President Obama do not failed his mission.
 
loader said:
Texas and California depart to Mexico. Louisiana- to France. Alaska to Russia, and 13 colonies to Great Britain. President Obama do not failed his mission.
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I'm trying to imagine Mexico sending troops into Texas, and the Texans actually wanting to ally with Mexico.... nope, not happening, and I can imagine all sorts of unlikely events.
 
DaveFagan said:
I think Putin has done the right thing. I think McCain should be institutionalized for his comments. Everybody knows that Russia encompasses 10 or 11 time zones, or do they. ?
"Gas Station," what a maroon.
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But you're hardly objective, are you? You always think Putin has done the right thing.
 
digsbe said:
That's how I see it too. I think he wants to bring back a form of the USSR and push for a Russian Empire in Europe.
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Well, that is the Euro-lefties wet dream.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm trying to imagine Mexico sending troops into Texas, and the Texans actually wanting to ally with Mexico.... nope, not happening, and I can imagine all sorts of unlikely events.
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20 years from now in Texas will live more Mexicans than whites. They will vote for joining Mexico.
 
loader said:
20 years from now in Texas will live more Mexicans than whites. They will vote for joining Mexico.
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People whose ancestors came from Mexico but are American citizens are Americans, not Mexicans. Hispanic and Mexican are not synonyms.

Moreover, the recent immigrants from Mexico didn't come here because they loved the way Mexico was being run politically.

PS: Is English your first language? If no, then I'll refrain from pointing out your syntactical errors and making jokes about them. If so, they you're fair game.
 
Dittohead not! said:
We lost because Putin didn't try to annex Alaska?

Really?
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Maybe I'm wrong to put it. You know, my English is not great...
Putin is revanchist. Putin is building an empire. Within the limits of maximum expansion of the Russian Empire. Alaska, Finland, Poland and China is also a significant part of China, is also belonged them.
I hope now you understand?
 
Dittohead not! said:
People whose ancestors came from Mexico but are American citizens are Americans, not Mexicans. Hispanic and Mexican are not synonyms.

Moreover, the recent immigrants from Mexico didn't come here because they loved the way Mexico was being run politically.

PS: Is English your first language? If no, then I'll refrain from pointing out your syntactical errors and making jokes about them. If so, they you're fair game.
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You're just blind. They have turned our country into Mexico. Or Nigeria. Or in Pakistan. Choose what you are closer.
 
loader said:
Maybe I'm wrong to put it. You know, my English is not great...
Putin is revanchist. Putin is building an empire. Within the limits of maximum expansion of the Russian Empire. Alaska, Finland, Poland and China is also a significant part of China, is also belonged them.
I hope now you understand?
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I understand your point now.

Now way is Russia going to try to annex Alaska, Finland, Poland, and/or China. That just isn't even a remote possibility.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'm trying to imagine Mexico sending troops into Texas, and the Texans actually wanting to ally with Mexico.... nope, not happening, and I can imagine all sorts of unlikely events.
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If anything, Texas would take over Mexico, rather than the other way around.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I understand your point now.

Now way is Russia going to try to annex Alaska, Finland, Poland, and/or China. That just isn't even a remote possibility.
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Who would have thought just a month ago, that the Russian Federation a bite a pice of an independent European country?
 
loader said:
Who would have thought just a month ago, that the Russian Federation a bite a pice of an independent European country?
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Putin?
 
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