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Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room?

So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?

  • Yes, he has a legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    Votes: 7 12.7%

  • Yes, he has a legal right and in my opinion he shouldnt.

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • No, he has no legal right and my opinion agrees with that.

    Votes: 35 63.6%

  • No, he has no legal right and in my opinion he should.

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 12.7%

  • I Love Chicken Parm

    Votes: 9 16.4%
  • Total voters
    55
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

The father is only the father on the mothers' say-so until the kid's dna is checked.
 
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roguenuke said:
In order to see the child coming out of her private parts, he is going to get a view of her private parts. Doesn't matter how he sees them.

He has no right to see them again, just because he's seen them before.
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Yeah it appears women have a lot of rights.

They have the right to not have the baby even if the man wants his child.
They have the right to have the baby even when the man doesn't want the child and force the man to pay child support for it.
They have the right to have the child and put it up for adoption denying the father the right to his own child.
And now she has the right not to have the father in the delivery room when giving birth.

Here's hoping in the near future a few judges remember men have rights too.
 
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vesper said:
Yeah it appears women have a lot of rights.

They have the right to not have the baby even if the man wants his child.
They have the right to have the baby even when the man doesn't want the child and force the man to pay child support for it.
They have the right to have the child and put it up for adoption denying the father the right to his own child.
And now she has the right not to have the father in the delivery room when giving birth.

Here's hoping in the near future a few judges remember men have rights too.
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There is only one I don't believe that women should have and in reality, they don't totally have, and that's putting the child up for adoption. But unfortunately, some women are bitches who will lie and claim they have no idea who the father is and the adoption agencies are more interested in making money, than doing the right thing. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. The rest are due to the nature of having children, and men and women's natural parts in having those children.
 
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roguenuke said:
There is only one I don't believe that women should have and in reality, they don't totally have, and that's putting the child up for adoption. But unfortunately, some women are bitches who will lie and claim they have no idea who the father is and the adoption agencies are more interested in making money, than doing the right thing. It sucks, but life isn't always fair. The rest are due to the nature of having children, and men and women's natural parts in having those children.
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Exactly. The woman's body is the one in danger. The man is in NO danger during a delivery. Women die during childbirth. Do men? No, they do not. Delivery can be potentially dangerous. It's not a friggin party where anyone can just show up, doesn't matter WHO it is.
 
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Why would he not be able to see his own child? Unless he's some sort of criminal offender, he should have the right to see HIS child.
 
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Van Basten said:
Why would he not be able to see his own child? Unless he's some sort of criminal offender, he should have the right to see HIS child.
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Who said he couldn't SEE his child?
 
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If the woman invites the man into the delivery room while she is delivering the child, that is a PRIVILEGE. She does not HAVE to do that and never has. He has no RIGHT to see her in that condition if she does not wish him to, or anyone else for that matter.
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
It's his child too!

What the HELL......!?
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It doesn't give him a right to invade her privacy. Once the child is out of her body he can see it all he wants or whenever the judge mandates it his time with his child.
 
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AGENT J said:
haha niiiice, I LOVE chick parm its probably my fav

and i agree with you

i have no idea how anybody comes to any other conclusion, i get the emotion but rights dont care about peoples feelings


in this situation nobody gets to see a womans privates against her will, how anybody could ever think otherwise is beyond me.
also if he just wanted to be in the corner of the room that also HER choice, she is exposed in there and going through medical situations, all her own business and privacy, he does NOT get to force himself in the room against his will.
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I use to like chicken parm to, it was one of my favorites a long time ago.

I agree completely, I don't get why people think it's okay for anyone to force their way into a hospital room when the patient is against it. That's just messed up.
 
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molten_dragon said:
He doesn't have a right and I agree with that. He has (and should have) the right to be at the hospital and see the baby as soon as it's practical, but he doesn't have a right to be in the delivery room.
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I agree 100%

he can come in the room as soon as the mom allows or the baby can be moved to a neutral room as soon as possible, some hospitals do this anyway based on different policies and some nobody can see the baby expect through glass for a little while.
 
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Gipper said:
Of course not. It's only his child.

They should keep stripping men and fathers of rights. Maybe some of them will get a clue and not tie themselves down and slit their own throats.
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theres no striiping of mems/fathers rights here so its ok \.
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
It's his child too!

What the HELL......!?
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correct!

and it will still be his child when she allows him to come into the room or once the child is moved to another room
 
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vesper said:
We have these things called mirrors, you may have heard of them. As far as seeing her private parts, his already plowed that territory.
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like 3 people keep saying this and everytime its said its a plan mentally retarded excuse to violate rights.

is this a good excuse for peeping toms? its ok if the peeper has seen it before? LOL thats the dumbest failed rational ever.
 
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Van Basten said:
Why would he not be able to see his own child? Unless he's some sort of criminal offender, he should have the right to see HIS child.
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nobody is stopping him from seeing the child, please reread the OP and thread
 
Re: Do you think fathers have a legal right to see thier child born or be in the room

I am very sensitive to father's rights, but I don't think it applies in this scenario. If the two are no longer together, then he does not have any right to be present (in the same room) during delivery.

I do agree with the previous points that he does have the right to hang out at the hospital and to see the kid as soon as is safely possible, however.
 
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ChrisL said:
Who said he couldn't SEE his child?
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AGENT J said:
nobody is stopping him from seeing the child, please reread the OP and thread
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My reply was simply to the OP's general question, not the case in the article.

You know, this question:

"So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?"
 
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Van Basten said:
My reply was simply to the OP's general question, not the case in the article.

You know, this question:

"So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?"
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so why did your answer have nothing to do with the actual question then im guessing thats why people didnt understand your answer?
 
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Van Basten said:
My reply was simply to the OP's general question, not the case in the article.

You know, this question:

"So do you think the father has a legal right to see his baby born or be in the room?"
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In the OP, the woman is not withholding visitation. She has him on a list of approved visitors.

No, if the mother says she doesn't want him in the room, then no. The delivery is not about him.
 
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Gipper said:
Of course not. It's only his child.

They should keep stripping men and fathers of rights. Maybe some of them will get a clue and not tie themselves down and slit their own throats.
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A post so good, it needed to be said twice.

Anyway, someone going under any medical procedure whatsoever shouldn't be forced to have someone in the room with them if they don't wish for them to be there. If I were undergoing surgery and an ex-girlfriend demanded to be present, I'd be like, uh, no. Go away.
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
It's his child too! What the HELL......!?
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Not until it's fully out of her womb it ain't. You can hope it is and you can imagine it is, but truth is, it's no one's baby but the mother's til it's birthed.
 
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TheGirlNextDoor said:
It's his child too!

What the HELL......!?
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I would think you, as a woman, would be able to appreciate some of the perks that come with privacy laws that allow you to determine who can and can't be present during a medical procedure.
 
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Cardinal said:
I would think you, as a woman, would be able to appreciate some of the perks that come with privacy laws that allow you to determine who can and can't be present during a medical procedure.
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Another interesting thing to think about is that if a patient is diagnosed with cancer, she/he do not have to inform their spouse. This is all because of HIPAA laws. I do not think this man's outrage and hurt feelings are more important than doctor/patient confidentiality, and no man (or woman) has the right to force themselves upon a person who is undergoing a potentially life threatening procedure.

If she had said that he cannot see the baby even after it's birth while in the hospital, then he might have a case, but I don't see where people can argue at all about any uninvited person being in the operating/delivery room against a patient's wishes.
 
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ChrisL said:
Another interesting thing to think about is that if a patient is diagnosed with cancer, she/he do not have to inform their spouse. This is all because of HIPAA laws. I do not think this man's outrage and hurt feelings are more important than doctor/patient confidentiality, and no man (or woman) has the right to force themselves upon a person who is undergoing a potentially life threatening procedure.

If she had said that he cannot see the baby even after it's birth while in the hospital, then he might have a case, but I don't see where people can argue at all about any uninvited person being in the operating/delivery room against a patient's wishes.
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Personally, I don't care if the operation is just to remove a hangnail. If my mom wants to be there and I don't want her to be, bam, end of discussion.

As for seeing the baby, people are flipping out as if the father is being prevented from seeing his child FOREVER.
 
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Summerwind said:
Not until it's fully out of her womb it ain't. You can hope it is and you can imagine it is, but truth is, it's no one's baby but the mother's til it's birthed.
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I love comments like yours. The child is clearly both of theirs throughout the entire pregnancy. It can be no other way.
 
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Henrin said:
I love comments like yours. It is clearly both their child throughout the entire pregnancy.
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The mother determining who can be in the room is the result of a number of privacy laws. As a libertarian, don't you approve of systems that protect your privacy?
 
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