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Hillary or Paul

Who wins your vote

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 20 40.0%
  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 21 42.0%
  • Wasted third party vote?

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Interesting word choice. There were roughly 4500 troops who died in a needless war in Iraq, but there were 4 Americans who were murdered in Benghazi. Sick

Tells us what you think happened to the four men in Benghazi. Did they die of natural causes? Died in their sleep, did they?
 
I wouldn't remember that, I just introduced myself into politics at the time and I was a Republican. Though I'm pretty sure he dropped out of the race due to all the accusation of employee harassment.

The entire political parties primary system is completely ###### up. A small minority decides who will win the party's nomination. By the time the vast majority get to participate in the system and cast their votes, the majority of the candidates have already dropped out.
 
You wouldn't remember it because it didn't happen. APACHERAT is lying. Again.

Are you allowed to call someone a liar on the DP without backing up the claim that the person is saying something knowing that it's not true ?
 
Are you allowed to call someone a liar on the DP without backing up the claim that the person is saying something knowing that it's not true ?
Perhaps you should enlighten me and show me when the "oreo" label appeared and show any public support changes in the polls.
 
Are you allowed to call someone a liar on the DP without backing up the claim that the person is saying something knowing that it's not true ?

Please link to the entirety of "the left" referring to Herman Cain as an Oreo cookie. Go ahead, I'll wait.
 
Rand Paul will never be president. He is where he is because of his family name, and unlike his father he lacks in many characteristics that made Ron a national figure. I think Rand is too influenced by the evangelic wing.
 
It is 2 years and 8 months before the election. In March 2007 (2 years and 8 months before the 2008 election) Hillary Clinton was guaranteed to be the next president. She had it in the bag. All she had to do was show up. In March 2007 very few people knew who Barrack Obama was.

No she wasn't. Most people in the know realized way before then that this was going to be a hard fought race between Hilary and Obama. Obama's star was rising right about the Democratic Convention in 2006.
 
Are you allowed to call someone a liar on the DP without backing up the claim that the person is saying something knowing that it's not true ?

You would be wise to use the 'contact us' button before saying something you'll regret in that regard, as per advice given to me and wisely taken by me .
 
Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?

There must be a better choice on the Republican side, Rand Paul seems a no hope choice.
 
Please link to the entirety of "the left" referring to Herman Cain as an Oreo cookie. Go ahead, I'll wait.

No problem as long as you infract yourself.

Congressional Black Caucus Attendees: Allen West & Herman Cain Are “Oreos”…

Congressional Black Caucus Attendees: Allen West & Herman Cain Are



Comments From Congressional Black Caucus: Allen West and Herman Cain Called 'oreos, and Again Call Tea Party Racist > Citizens 4 Freedom

Comments From Congressional Black Caucus: Allen West and Herman Cain Called 'oreos, and Again Call Tea Party Racist

MRC visited the Congressional Black Caucus Annual Dinner in Washington to ask attendees if the tea party is racist. The attendees are also asked about Allen West and Herman Cain and what they think of black members of the tea party. One man says they can go to hell, another lady calls them ‘oreos.’
 
So again, this lowly Canadian seems to know a little more about US Republican/conservative politics than you,
the die-hard supporter of all things liberal/Democrat.
The last thing you know about me is all of my positions on issues/subissues on every topic.
What you're allowed to do in your own mind is criticize Dems and then tell Dems to not even speak of GOPs and their views .
 
Rand Paul looks like a statesman compared to Ted Cruz.

With Cruz smearing Dole, McCain and Romney as not standing for principle at CPAC,
Paul has staked out the high ground in their tit-for-tat the last few days.

However, I will not help you with your VP candidate .
There must be a better choice on the Republican side, Rand Paul seems a no hope choice.
 
I'll fix it.

"what difference does it make..."

Still wrong

Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that -- an assault sprang out of that -- and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.
Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

Edit: add link http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...t-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/
 
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Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that -- an assault sprang out of that -- and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.
Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

It amazes me how much mileage a certain brand of conservative has gotten out of so shamelessly misrepresenting Secretary Clinton's quote.

Scoring partisan points clearly trumps being honest for them.
 
It amazes me how much mileage a certain brand of conservative has gotten out of so shamelessly misrepresenting Secretary Clinton's quote.

Scoring partisan points clearly trumps being honest for them.
They're dishonest as hell.
 
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Scoring partisan points clearly trumps being honest for them.

Really? Partisan defense points is an alien concept is it?
 
Really? Partisan defense points is an alien concept is it?

Wow, carrying this over from another thread, are we?

"Partisan defense points" is something you just made up.
 
Not at all, especially when YOU are not discussing the thread.
Really? Partisan defense points is an alien concept is it?
Who would be good VP candidates for Rand Paul, the clear Leader for 2016, with a ground game in place .
 
Wow, carrying this over from another thread, are we?

"Partisan defense points" is something you just made up.

I just find it very amusing your post calls out partisanship.
 
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