Re: Does race actually exist?
There's nothing to debate - I'm just pointing out errors.
With this post you've made three, now.
Wrong/Lie
I made NO error. I did not say which Gorillas were which species/subspecies.
I Merely elucidated a List of them to show they existed Despite never having left Africa.
My POINT/The Context you don't get and dishonestly Mischaracterized, being a refutation of Bod's claim. His stating that because humans evolved in Africa as a single subspecies/race, that they couldn't later have subspecies!
A Ridiculous premise easily Busted by me BY Showing that even if they never left Africa they could easily evolve into different subspecies, even species,
as Gorillas did. Humans geographical divergence only making easier/More likely.
THAT was the context and 100% coherent and correct point.
You have shown ZERO Error as all I did was list some of those species/subspecies, NOT claim which any of them were.
Mo said:
I haven't been addressing those issues, so your whining about it in response to my post is uncalled for.
I have not stated any position except to say I disagree with your position, which doesn't mean I'm diametrically opposed to it.
IOW you have ZERO Rebuttal and Cannot address THE issue at hand, just don't like it/Disagree withOUT cause/Cannot debate merely are desperate to find something/anything to nitpick cause you want a piece of me.
What transparent and admitted Ignorance!
You admittedly just want to find something/anything to pick at because you "disagree" (it offends your Unthoughtout position) but you CANNOT elucidate it! so try tangential means.
Sad.
Let us know when you DO have something to say on the String Topic eh?
Mo said:
Since you haven't been using Australian or North American natives as two distinct races in your arguments, your claim (my supposed "self-impeachment" :roll: ) is shown to be false once again.
That's three strikes - you're out ...
So you have No answer to your Self-Impeaching "COUPLE of Exceptions".
OUCHER.
A "Couple" is plenty to make the point.
Let me add to my point/Your be Porked with this, for just one, on Human's journey to geographical dispersion and physical divergence/adaption/evolution into Races.
http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/objects-through-time/essays/50000-years-before-present/ FOR JUST ONE CITATION said:
Our species evolved in Africa over 200,000 years ago. The Genographic Project has found that people spread out of Africa in at least two migratory waves. The first wave travelled from eastern Africa into the area of the east coast of the Mediterranean known as the Levant about 100,000 years ago.
The later second wave moved from Africa into the Arabian Peninsula and continued eastward following the coast of South Asia about 70,000 years ago.
This southern wave kept rolling along reaching Southeast Asia, where one branch of people migrated to Australia and New Guinea, while other branches moved along the coast of east Asia. A branch of this second wave migration moved north into the central Asia and spread west into Europe and east into Siberia about 40,000 years ago. Eventually humans made their way to the American continent about 15,000 – 20,000 years ago.
The actual timing of the southern wave of humans is hard to ascertain because it appears to have moved along the coast, where after the end of the last Ice Age 12,000 years ago the melting glaciers drowned large stretches of coastline so the evidence is now under the ocean. The fossils we have of these migrants offer few clues as to what sparked their spread.
Damn good!
So again, my divergence starting 50,000 years ago is quite a decent estimate, even conservative.
And not that 10,000-15,000 years wouldn't be enough to develop subspecies.
THAT time period Previously Elucidated by me/my links as well.
Again, do chirp in when you have something on the string topic you admittedly/pathetically do NOT have now.