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Is your slow American internet acceptable to you?

Is this acceptable?

  • Yeah, so what. 'Merica!

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • No, this is ridiculous

    Votes: 16 66.7%
  • I'm worthless and weak for clicking here

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Total voters
    24
I dont really have any problems with my internet speeds. My internet does everything I do on it and seems quickly to me. I suppose DP could load in 0.000002 seconds instead of .00002 seconds but I am a patient person and i can wait those thousandsth of a second without wondering why my internet is so slow.
 
Soooo....

What we have here is the internet equivalent of the old "my penis is bigger than your penis".

yawn...

Ask and most women will tell you it's not the size that matters, but how well you use it.

That's just what they tell guys that are small down there...
 
Average download speeds by country below. This is a good indicator of the state of infrastructural development in each country. Once upon a time, the United States was the most developed country in the world. Now, we lag behind almost everybody.

In my opinion, this is an unacceptable report card. America gets an "F." We need legislative action to fix it immediately. What say you?



*All values in mbps

1. Hong Kong 72.06
2. Singapore 60.76
3. Romania 56.81
4. South Korea 51.70
5. Japan 42.24
6. Sweden 40.80
7. Lithuania 39.99
8. Andorra 39.84
9. Macau 39.83
10. Netherlands 39.35
11. Switzerland 38.82
12. Denmark 36.54
13. Taiwan 35.71
14. Luxemborg 34.22
15. Latvia 33.54
16. Iceland 32.21
17. Moldova 30.98
18. Bulgaria 29.09
19. Belgium 28.97
20. Norway 27.29
21. France 27.18
22. Finland 26.63
23. Germany 25.20
24. Portugal 24.95
25. Hungary 24.21
26. Estonia 24.17
27. Czech 23.70
28. UK 23.48
29. Aland 23.23
30. Liechtenstein 23.14
31. Israel 21.80
32. United States 21.48
33. Russia 21.28
36. Canada 20.29
44. China 16.76
87 Italy 7.78


**All data from ooka.com

I don't have, so much a problem, with the download speeds, mine is 10mb, rather it's the bandwidth throttling. Whenever I try and watch a streaming movie, I have to set it to the lowest resolution and still get problems with buffering and choppy content. But if I run a speed test or watch Network activity, my ISP is only letting me use 1-2mb of my download speed potential. Some of it's because of the Video providers, not allowing a faster connection.

The problem isn't with the ISP's, as much as it's with the content providers. Netflix recently has lowered their delivery speed to the point of causing people problems watching. MY downloads on most large files is similar at 1-2mb per second, which is all I usually get out of my 10mb connection to Brighthouse.

It wouldn't matter if I had 50mb download, nothing is coming to me faster than the content provider is allowing. That's where the bottleneck is occurring.
 
I think that big US cities should have comparable internet speed to Europe. There is such a large population concentration that there should be one or more big providers that should be able to supply fast internet.

The only lucky thing in Europe is that almost everybody has cable TV in the Netherlands and a lot of Dutch people can get their internet through their cable provider with very high speed.

We don't. I live in Dallas, where we have 7 million people, and my download speed is 14 or 15 mbps.

The problem is we have local monopolies. I can only get Time Warner, that's the only provider in my area. They have no incentive to make my internet any faster, and my bills go up every year. What's the difference to them? I either pay up and shut up, or I go without any internet at all..... they're the only choice.

You either need a free market system with open competition, OR you need the government to step in and mandate that they get their butts in gear. The American system is the worst of both worlds.
 
When did America get satisfied with second rate?
 
We don't. I live in Dallas, where we have 7 million people, and my download speed is 14 or 15 mbps.

The problem is we have local monopolies. I can only get Time Warner, that's the only provider in my area. They have no incentive to make my internet any faster, and my bills go up every year. What's the difference to them? I either pay up and shut up, or I go without any internet at all..... they're the only choice.

You either need a free market system with open competition, OR you need the government to step in and mandate that they get their butts in gear. The American system is the worst of both worlds.

Our local cable market is also monopolized, but next to our cable company there are several other options that provide fast internet for comparable prices. There are at least 3 or 4 other big providers that can compete with the cable company for fast internet.
 
My speed is fine.
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Is it "fine?"

Your speed means that the AVERAGE user in 15 different countries have faster internet than you. The average user doesn't pay for the premium speed. And I'm sure you pay for the premium speed.

Mine is pretty terrible, all told. :(

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I've known that for ages though. I can't even play a decade old MMO without lagging like Hell.

People refuse to believe me when I tell them that we're getting ripped off with Bell South either way regardless though. :roll:
 
lol. Try comparing apples to apples. We have so much rural **** to deal with compared to Hong Kong it's not even funny.
Fios and Uverse and for rural, satellite, is good compared to all that.
 
Speed is fine, and I am one who gets impatient heating stuff up in the microwave. Its too expensive, that's my complaint.
 
I say it's min wage. Give us min wage like Hong Kong and Singapore, and we can hire an army of low paid workers to create the infrastructure. Take your pick.

Speed is fine, and I am one who gets impatient heating stuff up in the microwave. Its too expensive, that's my complaint.

That's what I'm talking about. Where is the insta-banquet like in Back to the Future 2. Some pellets and DING! Roast Turkey with fixings.

More serious, my microwave just died after 1 whole year, and it was already repaired twice. New? $400. Repair? $400. And it's a Whirlpool which is not the high price brand! It's a scam! :)
 
Our local cable market is also monopolized, but next to our cable company there are several other options that provide fast internet for comparable prices. There are at least 3 or 4 other big providers that can compete with the cable company for fast internet.

You've got it good. The idiots here in America don't realize the rest of the Western World passed them by 5 or 6 years ago. Not just internet speed, but quality of life in general. America's pretty much been garbage since 2008.
 
Mine is pretty terrible, all told. :(

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I've known that for ages though. I can't even play a decade old MMO without lagging like Hell.

People refuse to believe me when I tell them that we're getting ripped off with Bell South either way regardless though. :roll:

God bless America.
 
You've got it good. The idiots here in America don't realize the rest of the Western World passed them by 5 or 6 years ago. Not just internet speed, but quality of life in general. America's pretty much been garbage since 2008.

Sweden replaced all those worthless hot water radiators used in 99% of apartments (and homes even!) with modern climate control? That's nice to hear. Those people were living like 1950 America.

Oh, wait. That didn't happen.
 
lol. Try comparing apples to apples. We have so much rural **** to deal with compared to Hong Kong it's not even funny.
Fios and Uverse and for rural, satellite, is good compared to all that.

I'm one of those rural slobs. the only option I have is slow ass satelite DSL.
 
Sweden replaced all those worthless hot water radiators used in 99% of apartments (and homes even!) with modern climate control? That's nice to hear. Those people were living like 1950 America.

Oh, wait. That didn't happen.

I'm not an expert on home heaters except to say that I know when a room is hot or cold and I know that, having lived in Sweden, they don't have any problems heating their homes.

Internet speed, on the other hand, is straight-up infrastructure. If you don't get what I mean..... we live in the information age, and in an information and tech-driven economy. Businesses need bandwidth to optimally function. The more bandwidth residential customers have, the more content businesses can offer them.

That's kind of how it works with infrastructure. If you improve it, you improve the entire economy. Not so with water radiators or whatever. Americans are spending their money on worthless appliances, Europeans are spending money on things that will actually pay for themselves and improve quality of life, create jobs, etc.
 
lol. Try comparing apples to apples. We have so much rural **** to deal with compared to Hong Kong it's not even funny.
Fios and Uverse and for rural, satellite, is good compared to all that.

You don't think the EU has rural areas? The population of the EU is greater than the USA, and yet their cumulative average download time still smokes us.

No excuses.
 
I'm not an expert on home heaters except to say that I know when a room is hot or cold and I know that, having lived in Sweden, they don't have any problems heating their homes.

Internet speed, on the other hand, is straight-up infrastructure. If you don't get what I mean..... we live in the information age, and in an information and tech-driven economy. Businesses need bandwidth to optimally function. The more bandwidth residential customers have, the more content businesses can offer them.

That's kind of how it works with infrastructure. If you improve it, you improve the entire economy. Not so with water radiators or whatever. Americans are spending their money on worthless appliances, Europeans are spending money on things that will actually pay for themselves and improve quality of life, create jobs, etc.

Bull****. Size matters and the entire EU serves [maybe] about the same number of people as we do here. We're home to the internet and we suck and throw around more data on a daily basis than you can only dream of. That satuates connections. It's nothing in a day for me to move around hundreds of gigs of data.
 
You've got it good. The idiots here in America don't realize the rest of the Western World passed them by 5 or 6 years ago. Not just internet speed, but quality of life in general. America's pretty much been garbage since 2008.

I don't think I'd go quite that far. I was in Europe in 2011.

While there are some nice areas (some nicer than others), I don't think I saw anything that would convince me to live there rather than in the US.

As far as general consumer options go, the US is light years ahead of Europe.
 
Bull****. Size matters and the entire EU serves [maybe] about the same number of people as we do here. We're home to the internet and we suck and throw around more data on a daily basis than you can only dream of. That satuates connections. It's nothing in a day for me to move around hundreds of gigs of data.

I would have to look that up, but even if they serve the exact same number that we do.... they do it faster and better.
 
I don't think I'd go quite that far. I was in Europe in 2011.

While there are some nice areas (some nicer than others), I don't think I saw anything that would convince me to live there rather than in the US.

As far as general consumer options go, the US is light years ahead of Europe.

Disagree. I would move to Europe in a heartbeat. It's much better in more ways than I can count. The only reason I'm even here is because I have a job that pays me pretty well. If not for that, I'd be gone without a second thought.

European cities are much more pleasing, European women are more beautiful and cultured, travel within the continent is more interesting, the history is more interesting, people are actually healthy and not fat car-driving slobs like here, they don't start stupid wars.... it's just better all around.

America is a sloppy, dirty country filled with stupid people and the whole place is driven by corporate greed and consumerism. No thank you.
 
I would have to look that up, but even if they serve the exact same number that we do.... they do it faster and better.

Again, no they don't. If what you say were even remotely true the major internet businesses would all be serving from there instead of here. It's about data depth and simultaneous number of connections. The internet infrastructure in EU countries is no better than it is here.

They have the same problems we do with the last mile in remote areas. What you're seeing is the tendancy of europeans to cluster up, live on top of one another, whereas here we're more spread out.
 
In order to ensure the reliable flow of traffic on the Internet, broadband companies strike so-called “peering” agreements in which they agree to carry each other’s traffic.

The actual transfer of data takes place at a handful of “interconnection” hubs around the globe. These are large facilities — sometimes called “telecom carrier hotels” — where companies like Verizon and AT&T can physically share space with other bandwidth providers and Internet companies to exchange traffic under one roof.


Netflix Peering Dispute with Verizon is Slowing Service | TIME.com
 
break up the telcom and cable industries into smaller parts, and watch competition solve the problem. oh, and one other thing :




























































































DO NOT LET THE ****ING ****ERS RE-CONSOLIDATE IN 20 DAMNED YEARS, CAUSING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS TO HAPPEN AGAIN
 
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