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Are men in the western world losing their masculinity?

Are Western men becoming less masculine?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 38.1%

  • No

    Votes: 19 45.2%

  • Meatloaf Sandwich

    Votes: 7 16.7%
  • Total voters
    42
Muhammed said:
When Americans started consuming a lot of soy products in lieu of animal fat (margarine instead of butter, Crisco instead of lard, soybean oil instead of beef talow) the country's heart disease and cancer rates skyrocketed.
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Correlation does not equal causation.

There is increasing evidence that consumption of soy protein in place of animal protein lowers blood cholesterol levels and may provide other cardiovascular benefits.
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Soy Protein and Cardiovascular Disease
 
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ecofarm said:
Correlation does not equal causation.


Soy Protein and Cardiovascular Disease
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What that link shows is that some sometimes soy lowers cholesterol, sometimes it raises cholesterol and sometimes has no effect. It says absolutely nothing about heart disease.

But I don't expect long time strict vegans to be smart enough to comprehend that fact because of that diet's negative affects on the brain.
 
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ecofarm said:
False.
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BS! You are letting your ideology cloud the facts.

BTW, nowhere in your link does it suggest that soy was ever used in the orient as a dietary staple for humans.
 
Muhammed said:
BTW, nowhere in your link does it suggest that soy was ever used in the orient as a dietary staple for humans.
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It states so clearly.
 
Simply, yes. Our culture has long since denigrated the idea of a strong male role model, leaving little positive to strive for. Furthermore, our system of child-rearing is currently geared to depress testosteronic (if that is a word) activities. No more dodgeball, no more competition - someone might get their feelings hurt. Better that we all go color rainbows. We'd rather everyone feel included than force anyone to undergo the bracing experience of standing against a group. We'd rather nobody get their feelings hurt than maximize individual liberty. We think it's mean to hurt people, even if those people are mass-rapists and murderers.

:shrug: the values we hold up now are more feminine values v masculine ones. Men depress their masculinity to conform.
 
Muhammed said:
All that article means is that ConAgra sold it's meat division so now they say vegetarian diets are good.
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Was it, like, your job to be anti-vegetarian?
 
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