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How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

We should be raising our daughters


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:) American and I know each other. I'm pretty sure that he knows that my feelings at his shame of having raised a left-winger are nothing but heartfelt sympathy. I have three children myself, and the odds are that I, too, will fail in such a horrific manner with at least one of them. :(

I got lucky. Both of my sons are smart. They don't buy into that liberal crap.
 
:( I feel for you. Do you tell people? Or just make up some story about how she's not a liberal, you swear, she just ran away and joined the circus / works for the mafia beating up children / something less embarrassing than being a college liberal?

:lol: Nah, I tell them she's my liberal and I love her anyway. :mrgreen:
 
One out of three (the last one) isnt' too bad of an average, Phys.

I gotta hand it to you, Tigger, you're one of the very few people around here who's honest about his prejudice.
 
That's certainly one way of looking at it. Another way would be that she broke free from the chains of patriarchy that he tried to impose on her. To that young woman, I say, bravo! :applaud

Yes, that would be another way. Unfortunately for you, you'd be wrong......but then I wouldn't expect you to know WTF you're talking about when it comes to my daughter. I raised my kids to be good people, and just treat others decently.

In your world, the proper way to raise a daughter is probably as a man-hater.
 
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Yes, that would be another way. Unfortunately for you, you'd be wrong......but then I wouldn't expect you to know WTF you're talking about when it comes to my daughter.

"You're right and I'm wrong." Hmmmmm...I can't imagine why she would want to break free from that! ;)
 
I gotta hand it to you, Tigger, you're one of the very few people around here who's honest about his prejudice.

Why the hell wouldn't I be. I'm more than proud of who I am and what I believe in. I don't hide it.
 
Just like how we raise our sons, to be independent and strong individuals.
 
"You're right and I'm wrong." Hmmmmm...I can't imagine why she would want to break free from that! ;)

Again, you project utter ignorance about other people, but a fanatical ideologue such as yourself is predictable.
 
I raised my daughter to be strong, independent, intellectually curious, fair, with a strong emphasis on personal responsibility in all areas of life and to not take any **** from anybody. She's my greatest success in this life. :)
 
Again, you project utter ignorance about other people, but a fanatical ideologue such as yourself is predictable.

"I know how to raise my child better than everyone else on the planet!" --Believes every child abuser ever.
 
I got lucky. Both of my sons are smart. They don't buy into that liberal crap.

See, I'm worried. Because my oldest son is really, really smart.... but seems to be extremely argumentative. He must have picked that up from his mother.... He may go left just to argue.
 
The OP's kind of dishonest, isn't it? The question being asked is so blatantly leading as to render discussion effectively pointless.

Who here (besides Tigger, of course) would actually support raising their daughters to be "weak and defenseless?" :screwy
 
Just like how we raise our sons, to be independent and strong individuals.

My wife and I used to joke, "Our job is to keep our daughter off a stripper pole!" then I found out how much money those girls made.... :shock:

I've always put it as strong and independent, but appreciates a guy who holds the door for them. Why some think 'women's lib' means no more civility is odd.
 
Why some think 'women's lib' means no more civility is odd.

If she wants to be treated like a Lady, she needs to look, think, and act like a Lady. If she can't live up to that end of the deal, then Chivalry/Courtesy does not apply to her any more than it would apply to another guy.
 
"I know how to raise my child better than everyone else on the planet!" --Believes every child abuser ever.

That's interesting. Are you calling American a child-abuser?


How many children do you have?
 
If she wants to be treated like a Lady, she needs to look, think, and act like a Lady. If she can't live up to that end of the deal, then Chivalry/Courtesy does not apply to her any more than it would apply to another guy.

Lots of slack in that- what defines 'look, think, and act like a lady'?

Howsomever even in many warped self delusional fantasies of what some claim is Chivalry men extend many sorts of deferments and courtesies to each other. I've seen men open and hold the door for other men.

Course in the workplace a more egalitarian mindset is common compared to a date or casual encounter in public. I was raised to treat a woman as a lady unless she requests otherwise. To say Ma'am until she asks for a different form of address. Might be a southern thang, you Yankees are a different sort.

My favorite story is this- I held the door for a very punked out young lady and said, "after you Ma'am." She said, "don't call me Ma'am!" in a bit of a huff. I replied, "alright bitch." her friend laughed her ass off.
 
My wife and I used to joke, "Our job is to keep our daughter off a stripper pole!" then I found out how much money those girls made.... :shock:

I've always put it as strong and independent, but appreciates a guy who holds the door for them. Why some think 'women's lib' means no more civility is odd.

I don't believe anyone thinks that.
 
Lots of slack in that- what defines 'look, think, and act like a lady'?

I think the limits of that were pretty well laid out in the 13th Century, when Chivalry and the concept of Courtly Love came to their height.

Howsomever even in many warped self delusional fantasies of what some claim is Chivalry men extend many sorts of deferments and courtesies to each other. I've seen men open and hold the door for other men.

Maybe other men, but definitely not me.

Course in the workplace a more egalitarian mindset is common compared to a date or casual encounter in public. I was raised to treat a woman as a lady unless she requests otherwise. To say Ma'am until she asks for a different form of address. Might be a southern thang, you Yankees are a different sort.

I work in a secure area. If I hold a door for someone, I'm liable to lose my job. I was raised to treat a Lady like a Lady. Unfortunately there are very few Ladies and far too many Feminists in the female gender these days.


I don't believe anyone thinks that.

You would be wrong and I AM the proof of that.
 
You would be wrong and I AM the proof of that.

You are proof that some intense feelings of self loathing can be manifested in ways that project all that hatred towards women to the tune of 12000 postings, anyway.
 
I think the limits of that were pretty well laid out in the 13th Century, when Chivalry and the concept of Courtly Love came to their height. Maybe other men, but definitely not me. I work in a secure area. If I hold a door for someone, I'm liable to lose my job. I was raised to treat a Lady like a Lady. Unfortunately there are very few Ladies and far too many Feminists in the female gender these days.

Laughing, yes you claim that, society, laws, and education has come a loooong way since then. (thank GAWD)

You don't apply the very chivalry you claim to endorse... you would hold the door for your Lord- deferment was done within the sexes as well.

I'll wager a shiny nickle there is more than one door at your work. :roll:

Yeah there are very few women who want to give up property, the vote, a career, hell pants suits- to have the door held for them... :mrgreen:
 
Generally, boys need to be raised to know that they are and should be someone worthy of respect, where girls need to be raised to know that they are and should be someone worthy of love.

Girls are not worthy of respect?
Boys are not worthy of love?
 
The OP's kind of dishonest, isn't it? The question being asked is so blatantly leading as to render discussion effectively pointless.

Who here (besides Tigger, of course) would actually support raising their daughters to be "weak and defenseless?" :screwy

Dishonest??? How?

When I read threads like this one, or those posted by people who show outright hatred towards entire groups of people like "liberals" ..... I do have to honestly question how some people act and think.


I can just about guarantee there's more people here that think like Tigger, they just don't have the balls to step up and admit it.
That's one point you always have to give Tigger.
 
Girls are not worthy of respect?
Boys are not worthy of love?

Both certainly are, and both certainly need each. But there is a matter of focus, a matter of greatest need, of greatest means by which one self-defines. :shrug: Each need love, each need respect, but men (generally) need respect like women (generally) need love, and visa-versa.
 
Dishonest??? How?

When I read threads like this one, or those posted by people who show outright hatred towards entire groups of people like "liberals" ..... I do have to honestly question how some people act and think.


I can just about guarantee there's more people here that think like Tigger, they just don't have the balls to step up and admit it.
That's one point you always have to give Tigger.

I think we've been pretty clear (with Tigger being an exception) here that liberals aren't evil - simply misguided, and often so with good intent.

It's hippies that aren't really people. :)
 
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