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Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

Men: Would you marry an American Woman?


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Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Is this social progress like voodoo or something? What kind of tool is it? Why didn't the women back then use this tool?

I already explained. Social progress is not something that a single gender can achieve.

Can you not understand this? For progress to occur, the dominate gender had to awaken to the desired justice. This did not really occur for another 2000 years, and it is still occurring today in regard to gays, blacks and women. You see, homosexual gay rights activists (and female feminists, and black equal rights advocates) are reliant upon those "white knights" (that you so disdain) in order for society to move forward.

A gender cannot push a wheelbarrow lacking a wheel.

That's why it's so annoying when scumbag bigots refuse to get with the program.
 
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Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

I already explained. Social progress is not something that a single gender can achieve.

Can you not understand this? For progress to occur, the dominate gender had to awaken to the desired justice. This did not really occur for another 2000 years, and it is still occurring today in regard to gays, blacks and women. You see, homosexual gay rights activists (and female feminists, and black equal rights advocates) are reliant upon those "white knights" (that you so disdain) in order for society to move forward.

The gender cannot push a wheelbarrow without a wheel.

Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice? If this is so, can they not also DISALLOW women to have a voice? If I can just clear the macadamia nuts out of my head, I might understand some of these fine points of history that you're discussing. Fascinating.
 
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Incorrect. If not as central to whichever format (in the form of ruling goddess) the feminine was revered as consort.

Myth.

Noble savage.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice? If this is so, can they not also DISALLOW women to have a voice? If I can just clear the macadamia nuts out of my head, I might understand some of these fine points of history that you're discussing. Fascinating.
How did you get macadamia nuts in your head?
 
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Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice?

No, I'm saying they gave us one: theirs. But bigots refuse the voice of others, because they're stupid and ignorant.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

No, I'm saying they gave us one: theirs. But bigots refuse the voice of others, because they're stupid and ignorant.

Men didn't allow women to have a voice but they gave men a voice? Now, you're confusing me. Too many big words.
 
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Men didn't allow women to have a voice but they gave men a voice? Now, you're confusing me. Too many big words.

Big surprise. I'm shocked, really.
 
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Men didn't allow women to have a voice but they gave men a voice? Now, you're confusing me. Too many big words.
If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.
 
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If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.

Thanks Mark, I know your intentions are good, but no.

Women give society a voice, just as any other minority does, but mostly we refuse to utilize it. Mostly, society is a wheelbarrow with no wheel. And yet, the oppressed push.

But I tell you what. If we put that wheel on, we go places.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Are you saying that men ALLOWED women to have a voice? If this is so, can they not also DISALLOW women to have a voice? If I can just clear the macadamia nuts out of my head, I might understand some of these fine points of history that you're discussing. Fascinating.

He's referring to the process necessary in our government to do things like: repeal laws against birth control and to permit women to vote (etc).

To do these things through the judicial and legislative systems they (women) had to have the support of those who were in the judiciary and legislative branches at that time: males. Many males were reluctant but still followed along as logic dictated.
 
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If i had to guess, I would suggest that he meant: Women let men speak for them, until men stopped listening.

Does that mean that when men once again listen to women, that men can once again speak for women? I don't speak ecofarm's leftospeak, so his gibberish is really difficult to decipher.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Thanks Mark, I know your intentions are good, but no.

Women give society a voice, just as any other minority does, but mostly we refuse to utilize it. Mostly, society is a wheelbarrow with no wheel. And yet, the oppressed push.
Ah.

Not sure I understand though...
You're saying "X minority has a voice, but unless we listen it will not be utilized?".
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Does that mean that when men once again listen to women, that men can once again speak for women? I don't speak ecofarm's leftospeak, so his gibberish is really difficult to decipher.
Well apparently I didn't translate correctly. Disregard.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Ah.

Not sure I understand though...
You're saying "X minority has a voice, but unless we listen it will not be utilized?".

Yes. They cannot move us forward alone.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Provide a citation for your noble savage myth.
First of all, you're misusing that term. Both gods and goddesses, along with myriad figures of religious worship have embodied our less than exemplary attributes.

As for citations, you can Google to your heart's content. Anything from the principle of the sacred feminine to the polytheistic pantheons of Egypt, Greece and Rome that were abundant of femininity. Whether you do or not, you've provided nothing to substantiate your theory that Paul was attempting to protect anything. I'll wait.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

First of all, you're misusing that term. Both gods and goddesses, along with myriad figures of religious worship have embodied our less than exemplary attributes.

As for citations, you can Google to your heart's content. Anything from the principle of the sacred feminine to the polytheistic pantheons of Egypt, Greece and Rome that were abundant of femininity. Whether you do or not, you've provided nothing to substantiate your theory that Paul was attempting to protect anything. I'll wait.

I didn't think you could provide a citation. Keep enjoying that myth.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Yes. They cannot move us forward alone.
Perhaps it's misguided, but I worry about minority groups guiding us in a direction which benefits the minority over the whole.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

I didn't think you could provide a citation. Keep enjoying that myth.
You want proof that people have worshipped feminine deities?

Where's your proof for what, after all the deflection, remains a guess?
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Well apparently I didn't translate correctly. Disregard.

And here I thought that it was the macadamia nuts rattling around in my head which were leading me to this state of confusion. Leftospeak is a really hard nut to crack.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Perhaps it's misguided, but I worry about minority groups guiding us in a direction which benefits the minority over the whole.

Let me know when that happens.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Leftospeak is a really hard nut to crack.

I'm a fiscal conservative (very much so) and an interventionist. Spare us the lame, ignorant pigeon-holing.
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

You want proof that people have worshipped feminine deities?

Where's your proof for what, after all the deflection, remains a guess?

Just a citation for "gynocentric" or matriarchal pagans even existing in ancient Israel (and the surrounding regions).
 
Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

Just a citation for "gynocentric" or matriarchal pagans even existing in ancient Israel (and the surrounding regions).
Where do I make any such reference? You're aware that Paganism wasn't regionally exclusive, right? And that the Church had designs on foreign influence? I mean, is Europe in the ME? Is the Vatican located in Israel?

Stop deflecting, Eco. Where's the proof that Paul was protecting anything?
 
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