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Rape and Clothing

Rape and clothing correlation

  • I suspect women are wearing revealing clothes in most rape cases

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I suspect that a man/woman will rape regardless of the victims clothing

    Votes: 24 26.4%
  • I think some women are inviting dangerous attention when wearing revealing attire

    Votes: 5 5.5%
  • I don't think clothes have anything to do with rape

    Votes: 52 57.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 11.0%

  • Total voters
    91

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Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?
 
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Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) most people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

I believe opportunity is usually the primary way a target is chosen.
 
I'd venture so far as to say "no," though I'm sure it plays a role in at least some rapes, and probably a lot of date rape cases as well.
 
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) most people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

I don't know, I don't think it matters. Rape is about power not what clothing a woman is currently wearing. A man doesn't all of a sudden magically turn into a rapist because of a short skirt...
 
I don't know, I don't think it matters. Rape is about power not what clothing a woman is currently wearing. A man doesn't all of a sudden magically turn into a rapist because of a short skirt...

Well, again, an exception to that might be some cases of date rape, where the guy feels that he is being given "signs" from a woman that he really is not and the situation escalates out of control from there.

Random prowlers probably aren't going to be quite so concerned about this kind of thing.
 
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

It's not about clothing. If she was dressing provocatively, it means that she was asking for it. No rape.
 
Rape is really about power, moreso than about sex. That's why it's used as a weapon of war sometimes.

Besides which, even if a woman is wearing sexy clothing, if she says no you don't get a pass.
 
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) most people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

Who cares?

People are raped because sick people rape them...the common denominator is a lack of mental health on the part of the attacker, not a lack of conservative clothing on the part of the victim.
 
Well, again, an exception to that might be some cases of date rape, where the guy feels that he is being given "signs" from a woman that he really is not and the situation escalates out of control from there.

Random prowlers probably aren't going to be quite so concerned about this kind of thing.

If he rapes her in the case of date rape, it still comes down to power and control regardless of what excuse he may give for it. It still has nothing to do with what she was wearing.
 
It's not the clothes. It's not power.

Opportunism, pure and simple.
 
If he rapes her in the case of date rape, it still comes down to power and control regardless of what excuse he may give for it. It still has nothing to do with what she was wearing.

I really don't think things are quite that simple.

Some rapes simply escalate out of misunderstandings.
 
Most violent rapes have nothing to do with the clothing of the victim. The only cases where clothing might have some relevance are the so called "date rape" cases where the victim said she said NO and the defendant said she said YES.

example

William Kennedy Smith

No one knows exactly what the conversation or discussion was between WKS and Patricia Bowman. He claimed the intercourse was consensual-she said it was not

yet his version was supported by the facts that were not in dispute (like no grass stains on her dress-belying her claim that he threw her down and supporting his story that he put a blanket down on the grass before sex) also supporting his claim that she "picked him up" was the fact that she was wearing a very short minidress and 60 dollar black hose: this hurt her credibility when she claimed that the night in question she went out not to troll for men at a bar but rather to visit a friend and the friend's new born baby. Jurors noted that women normally don't get dolled up in slinky black dresses to play with babies but do dress that way to gain attention from men.
 
I really don't think things are quite that simple.

Some rapes simply escalate out of misunderstandings.

Saying it just escalated is just another excuse...

If a woman doesn't want to have sex with a man and he still forces it, it's rape. If you're talking about other scenarios where it's not clear that it was rape (such as if they were both completely wasted) then it might be a different story.
 
It's not about clothing. If she was dressing provocatively, it means that she was asking for it. No rape.
Similarly, a police officer shooting a suspiciously dressed person is okay because the person was "asking for it"?
 
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

No.

I voted Other. It's none of your business what I'm wearing. (if you know what I mean)
 
Similarly, a police officer shooting a suspiciously dressed person is okay because the person was "asking for it"?

You don't need a ski mask at 11pm when you're forcefully trying to get into a Cadillac.
 
I don't know, I don't think it matters. Rape is about power not what clothing a woman is currently wearing. A man doesn't all of a sudden magically turn into a rapist because of a short skirt...

This ^^^

A guy doesn't see cleavage and then see red and get into a rape rage...
 
Most violent rapes have nothing to do with the clothing of the victim. The only cases where clothing might have some relevance are the so called "date rape" cases where the victim said she said NO and the defendant said she said YES.

example

William Kennedy Smith

No one knows exactly what the conversation or discussion was between WKS and Patricia Bowman. He claimed the intercourse was consensual-she said it was not

yet his version was supported by the facts that were not in dispute (like no grass stains on her dress-belying her claim that he threw her down and supporting his story that he put a blanket down on the grass before sex) also supporting his claim that she "picked him up" was the fact that she was wearing a very short minidress and 60 dollar black hose: this hurt her credibility when she claimed that the night in question she went out not to troll for men at a bar but rather to visit a friend and the friend's new born baby. Jurors noted that women normally don't get dolled up in slinky black dresses to play with babies but do dress that way to gain attention from men.

True. However, I would also argue that even in a violent rape where opportunity was the major factor, overly attention grabbing attire might sometimes play a role. After all, if there is, in fact, a dangerous man lurking around somewhere, the last thing a woman wants to do is deliberately draw his attention towards her.

Walking through a bad neighborhood at night all alone might very well be a bad idea in and of itself. However, doing so in a bikini certainly wouldn't do anything to help matters either.

Saying it just escalated is just another excuse...

If a woman doesn't want to have sex with a man and he still forces it, it's rape. If you're talking about other scenarios where it's not clear that it was rape (such as if they were both completely wasted) then it might be a different story.

Call it what you want.

The fact of the matter is that a woman's clothing and behavior can be a contributing factor to sexual misunderstandings that sometimes escalate into rape.
 
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Most cases of rape in the U.S. are with spousal/partnered people. So no, I don't think clothing has anything to do with it.

Rape is always about power and control, not sex.
 
Since posters are getting upset that the yoga thread keeps getting derailed I will ask this here. Do you think most (true cases- not made up, let's not turn this into he said she said discussion) people who get raped are wearing revealing clothing?

I think that there are certain behaviors that increase a person's risk of being raped, but wearing revealing clothing isn't one of them. Or at least it's so minor as to be not worth mentioning.
 
Rape is always about power and control, not sex.

This quote is always trotted out whenever a discussion of rape takes place, and I always find it ridiculous. There are many ways to demonstrate power and control over someone, rape is only one of them. So to say that rape is not about sex at all is just silly. It may also be about power and control, but it's at least partly about sex.
 
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