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Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women[W:74]

As a young man (early 20s) would you date a 15 or 16 year old?

  • Sure, why not?

    Votes: 13 15.1%
  • Hell no!

    Votes: 73 84.9%

  • Total voters
    86
A 15-year-old is FAR from being a young adult. I know this because I was one.

I have news for you, so you had better sit down before you read this. Women don't generally become attractive to men on the day of their 18th birthday. In fact, most men can't tell the difference between an 18 year old woman and a 17 year, 11 months, 29 days, old woman.

In fact, wasn't there some porn star back in the olden days who posed for Penthouse when she was only 15 and in possession of some fake ID? I'm pretty sure that some of the oldster guys I know weren't making this up but I can't remember the details. Point being, plenty of men found her attractive because she looked like a woman rather than a pig-tailed little girl.
 
I have news for you, so you had better sit down before you read this. Women don't generally become attractive to men on the day of their 18th birthday. In fact, most men can't tell the difference between an 18 year old woman and a 17 year, 11 months, 29 days, old woman.

In fact, wasn't there some porn star back in the olden days who posed for Penthouse when she was only 15 and in possession of some fake ID? I'm pretty sure that some of the oldster guys I know weren't making this up but I can't remember the details. Point being, plenty of men found her attractive because she looked like a woman rather than a pig-tailed little girl.

Usually you can tell when someone is still in HIGH SCHOOL by having a simple conversation with said person.
 
Usually you can tell when someone is still in HIGH SCHOOL by having a simple conversation with said person.

I'm not understanding your point. How do you feel disgust abut a scenario if you haven't spoken with some imaginary girl at the heart of this question?

As I noted above, having to actually talk to 16 year old girls is probably nature's way of insuring birth control, but that doesn't mean that their physical appearance is revolting to men.
 
Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

It's a good thing that YOU weren't in a homo relationship with them.

I am simply mirroring the asinine position on the subject some other posters are taking, in an effort to show them just how rediculous it is.
 
I'm not understanding your point. How do you feel disgust abut a scenario if you haven't spoken with some imaginary girl at the heart of this question?

As I noted above, having to actually talk to 16 year old girls is probably nature's way of insuring birth control, but that doesn't mean that their physical appearance is revolting to men.

The question is would they "date" a 15 or 16-year-old girl, not if they find them physically attractive.
 
When I was a 15 or 16-year-old girl I would have found a man in his 20s attractive simply because it would make me feel "cool" and more "grown up." I would think he could probably buy me alcohol and probably have a car and maybe I could even drive it sometimes. If he had a job, that would be cool because he could take me to nice places and buy me nice things. He would have to have a more "boyish cuteness" to him for me feel a "physical" attraction to him though. I found old (and by "old" I mean more than 27 years old - I considered THAT old when I was a teen) men to be repulsive, like having sex with a father or grandfather.
 
OK I am going to post a poll for the Men here, based on the yoga pants thread.

Going into this, being completely understanding of the fact that levels of maturity change greatly within a matter of only a few years, I'd like to ask this.

If a girl is 15 or 16 years old, would you be OK with dating her, knowing she was only 15 or 16, if you were in your early 20s?

Would that be OK with you?

I thought that most men would not be interested, remembering the old "15 will get you 20" saying.

But apparently I am wrong, according to one poster here, and most young men would be OK dating a 16 year old.


16 is legal in many states.

Maybe you should change the poll to "would you BANG a 16yo?" instead.... some would bang a 16yo who wouldn't date one as in a serious relationship...


Me? No, but I'm middle aged and kind of particular...
 
The question is would they "date" a 15 or 16-year-old girl, not if they find them physically attractive.

The answer to that is simple. I don't believe there are many in today's society much older than...22-23 who would date a 15,16,17 year old.

Some of it due to a lack of connection/maturity difference.
Some of it due to societal stigma of doing such.
 
The answer to that is simple. I don't believe there are many in today's society much older than...22-23 who would date a 15,16,17 year old.

Some of it due to a lack of connection/maturity difference.
Some of it due to societal stigma of doing such.

What are you talking about? There are guys out there dating like this. The issue is how you define "Many."

From the stories I've collected in my life, these age-disparate relationships (not sexual encounters) all seem to follow a similar script. The older guy gets to know the teenage girl in a non-romantic environment, either through places like a tennis club or through family connections or through karate lessons or whatever. People are hanging out, all are friends, and some kind of personal chemistry develops between the dude and the girl. The fact that a chemistry develops invalidates the criticism that they don't have anything in common.

These types of relationships differ from those which begin with a spark upon meeting. There's a lot about 16 year old girls' personalities which is off-putting to young men, so the only way around that is to get to know the girl and see something of value beneath the surface, and that is going to take time.

The lesson here for parents who want to forestall this outcome is to make sure their daughters don't mingle with older men in social settings.
 
The answer to that is simple. I don't believe there are many in today's society much older than...22-23 who would date a 15,16,17 year old.

Some of it due to a lack of connection/maturity difference.
Some of it due to societal stigma of doing such.

I agree with that. I think that, in most cases, 15-year-old's and people in their 20s are living VASTLY different lifestyles and have different interests too.
 
Not always true. I've met several 20 somethings that you would swear were 13 year olds.

That might be true, but that doesn't mean you can't tell if when a person is young, more often than not it's pretty obvious.

You know, if they mention gym class, you might want to reassess the situation. ;)
 
I agree with that. I think that, in most cases, 15-year-old's and people in their 20s are living VASTLY different lifestyles and have different interests too.

That may be the case today, but when I was young, not so much. I did date guys who were 5-7 years older than I, and occasionally just a couple of years, but for the most part, I wasn't meeting them at school. I either worked with them, knew them through church, or met them hanging out with other friends at college events, or partying with college-age kids.
 
You would think this would be just common sense, but apparently it isn't. All ages of men lusting after 15-year-old children. It's disgusting.

The Old Jewish rules made some sense

half the man's age + 7 was the limit for marriage

meaning a 20 year old man could not marry a woman younger than 17 an 18 year old man a 16 far old and a forty year old man, a 27 year old woman.
 
That may be the case today, but when I was young, not so much. I did date guys who were 5-7 years older than I, and occasionally just a couple of years, but for the most part, I wasn't meeting them at school. I either worked with them, knew them through church, or met them hanging out with other friends at college events, or partying with college-age kids.

I mean generally speaking. Most college-aged guys are going to the bars nowadays. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.

Thinking about it, I don't think I'd really want my 15-year-old daughter going to college parties. :shock:
 
The Old Jewish rules made some sense

half the man's age + 7 was the limit for marriage

meaning a 20 year old man could not marry a woman younger than 17 an 18 year old man a 16 far old and a forty year old man, a 27 year old woman.

You have be good at math to figure out that formula! :lol:
 
I mean generally speaking. Most college-aged guys are going to the bars nowadays. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.

Thinking about it, I don't think I'd really want my 15-year-old daughter going to college parties. :shock:

My parents raised me to be old before my time. :lol:
 
To be honest, I don't think I even KNOW any Rabbis. :)

My junior year-my suite had 3 Episcopalians, three Jews (one reformed, one Conservative and one orthodox) and David Broder's son who was half and half!. the Orthodox Jewish guy's Rabbi would drop by to discuss things with him and welcomed the rest of us in the discussions. He seemed to be well versed in just about anything. Two of the guys in the suite were bonafide math geniuses (one earned the Rhodes Scholarship, the other won a bunch of awards in math) and this rabbi could discuss intricate mathematical problems with them as well as many other things.

No doubt in my mind rabbis tend to be the best educated of all the clergy I have ever met
 
Re: Poll for men only please, regarding sex with younger women

Don't matter if you're 23 or 53.

Fifteen will get you twenty.
 
I mean generally speaking. Most college-aged guys are going to the bars nowadays. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.

Thinking about it, I don't think I'd really want my 15-year-old daughter going to college parties. :shock:

Why not try thinking of a best case scenario? Are you a church going man? Do you belong to any social clubs? I met my FIL before I met his daughter. Every pairing up between men and women doesn't have to be at a bar.
 
My junior year-my suite had 3 Episcopalians, three Jews (one reformed, one Conservative and one orthodox) and David Broder's son who was half and half!. the Orthodox Jewish guy's Rabbi would drop by to discuss things with him and welcomed the rest of us in the discussions. He seemed to be well versed in just about anything. Two of the guys in the suite were bonafide math geniuses (one earned the Rhodes Scholarship, the other won a bunch of awards in math) and this rabbi could discuss intricate mathematical problems with them as well as many other things.

No doubt in my mind rabbis tend to be the best educated of all the clergy I have ever met

You guys must have had some interesting discussions! Lol!

I've got to say, the beginning of that sounded like it was going to be a joke! :lol:
 
Why not try thinking of a best case scenario? Are you a church going man? Do you belong to any social clubs? I met my FIL before I met his daughter. Every pairing up between men and women doesn't have to be at a bar.

Well, I'm not a man and no, I don't go to church.

Of course, they wouldn't be meeting 15-year-olds at the bar most of the time. And I'm talking in general, not the exceptions to the rule. For the most part, young teens and people in the mid 20s would be doing different things, have different circles of friends, etc. Even if they did intermingle, I would think that in most situations the 20-somethings would be find girls around his own age to be more intriguing. I hate to say it but most 20-somethings that would be interested in girls that young would be because they think they are easy to take advantage of and would only want to use them for sexual purposes. Just being honest.
 
I would think that in most situations the 20-somethings would be find girls around his own age to be more intriguing.

Well, most guys aren't interested in girls because they're intriguing, because they're not. They're usually exciting, exasperating, bewildering, infuriating but rarely do guys think "That girl is intriguing." Guys will go after younger girls because the guys are interested in sex and they're similarly motivated with same-age girls. The reverse is also true though. The guys who are looking for relationships are looking for emotional chemistry, not a debating partner and that emotional chemistry, I believe, isn't as age-constrained as you imagine it to be. A relationship is about how two people interact and a sustained relationship is about how two people interact with each other while simultaneously developing their individual interests and personality. If there is emotional chemistry and respect present, then the immaturity of one partner is dealt with in some fashion just as same-age relationships deal with issues like one partner having an STD or having a scarred heart from a brutal break-up. People work with the limitations which present themselves.

I hate to say it but most 20-somethings that would be interested in girls that young would be because they think they are easy to take advantage of and would only want to use them for sexual purposes. Just being honest.

Sure, I acknowledged that in my very first post in this thread.
 
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