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Who is your favorite president from 1881-1929?

Who is your favorite president from 1881-1929?

  • Chester A Arthur

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Grover Cleveland

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Benjamin Harrison

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • William Mckinley

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Theodore Roosevelt

    Votes: 12 60.0%
  • William Taft

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Woodrow Wilson

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Warren Harding

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • Calvin Coolidge

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Herbert Hoover

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .

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Who is your favorite president from 1881-1929?
 
Who is yours?

That's an easy one. Calvin Coolidge. He was the most Laissez Faire president that we ever had. When Calvin Coolidge died while in office one news reporter asked, "How could you tell?"

Calvin Coolidge deliberately accomplished the least amount of things while in office. It would be wonderful to have a president like that again.
 
That's an easy one. Calvin Coolidge. He was the most Laissez Faire president that we ever had. When Calvin Coolidge died while in office one news reporter asked, "How could you tell?"

Calvin Coolidge deliberately accomplished the least amount of things while in office. It would be wonderful to have a president like that again.

Coolidge helped pave the way to send the US into the Great Depression. Restrictive tarriffs, limiting immigration, minimizing government and letting the free market go unregulated for the sake of current profit.... But gosh...things were so great during his tenure! (hmm. Sounds like GWB, doesnt it?)

Does Calvin Coolidge Deserve a Reassessment? - The Daily Beast
 
Right you are grasshopper.
National Parks, Panama Canal, anti-trust, anti-Gilded wing of the GOP..
An end to 9-YO miners with missing toes and fingers, the backbone of the GOP monopolies.
Progress--ive policies that fixed the gerry-mandered Senate (17th amendment)..
The 16th that scofflaws in the GOP still hate.
And the foundation for ACA.

TR was truly a forward-looking President.
He asked the question, what should it be like in 100 years, just as Lincoln did.
He knew how much his own gilded wing would fight insurance for all .
Probably Teddy Roosevelt, he stands a few heads taller than all the rest in my opinion.
 
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Kandidate Kal Koolidge, as the KKK called him, was the favored kandidate of the KKK.
The KKK brochures were put out in Southern avenger churches at election time.
The largest march ever by the KKK was held during Kal's time, right there in D.C.
The KKK had its greatest years during Kal's tenure.
What a ****kkking disaster he was . :peace
Coolidge helped pave the way to send the US into the Great Depression. Restrictive tarriffs, limiting immigration, minimizing government and letting the free market go unregulated for the sake of current profit.... But gosh...things were so great during his tenure! (hmm. Sounds like GWB, doesnt it?)

Does Calvin Coolidge Deserve a Reassessment? - The Daily Beast
 
Right you are grasshopper.
National Parks, Panama Canal, anti-trust, anti-Gilded wing of the GOP..
an end to 9-YO miners with missing toes and fingers, the backbone of the GOP monopolies.
Progress--ive policies that fixed the gerry-mandered Senate (17th amendment)..
The 16th that scofflaws in the GOP still hate.
And the foundation for ACA.

TR was truly a forward-looking President.
He asked the question, what should it be like in 100 years, just as Lincoln did.
He knew how much his own gilded wing would fight insurance for all .

I admire TR. If he was around today there would be none of this too big to fail. I disagree with the 17th amendment, but that is okay. I also think the 16th was a mistake, remember the debate back then was it would only apply to the top 1-3% of the population. Like Thomas Jefferson, I do not believe a man should be taxed by the sweat of his brow. Now money speculators is fine with me. I do not have to agree 100% with any presidents policies to realize who was great, who was average and who is way below average. Heck I would settle for an average president since 2000. TR would be a great bonus.
 
Coolidge helped pave the way to send the US into the Great Depression. Restrictive tarriffs, limiting immigration, minimizing government and letting the free market go unregulated for the sake of current profit.... But gosh...things were so great during his tenure! (hmm. Sounds like GWB, doesnt it?)

Does Calvin Coolidge Deserve a Reassessment? - The Daily Beast

Doesn't sound like GWB, actually. The Depression was the fault of central banking (the Fed).
 
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Now money speculators is fine with me..
Money speculators are the reason we are in trouble today.
Remember Newt's infomercial on when Romney came to town?
Romney started that **** in the 80's with the paper mills in the northeast, stealing pension funds in leveraged buyouts.
Someone should do that to your Military pension so you know how it feels, how the Detroit Police and Fire Depts. feel .
 
Money speculators are the reason we are in trouble today.
Remember Newt's infomercial on when Romney came to town?
Romney started that **** in the 80's with the paper mills in the northeast, stealing pension funds in leveraged buyouts.
Someone should do that to your Military pension so you know how it feels, how the Detroit Police and Fire Depts. feel .

There is a lot more to Detroit than money speculators, but they sure didn't help.
 
I disagree with the 17th amendment, but that is okay.
Without the 17th, both the Senate and House would be the same, and both would be gerry-mandered.
Obviously, you're a closeted Gerry-mandered GOP coming out of the closet.
I also think the 16th was a mistake
The only problem with the 16th is that Americans are a bunch of whiny ******s and selfish turds when it comes to paying taxes.
Reagan's lasting gift to the Nation .
 
What would you know about Detroit?
How many other Municipalities in the USA are on the precipice of Detroit?
Since Chattanooga is close to you, I'm sure you're all in with the Liars Corker, Haslam and Norquist.
Volkswagon had to correct their lies on a daily basis .
There is a lot more to Detroit than money speculators, but they sure didn't help.
 
Without the 17th, both the Senate and House would be the same, and both would be gerry-mandered.
Obviously, you're a closeted Gerry-mandered GOP coming out of the closet.

The only problem with the 16th is that Americans are a bunch of whiny ******s and selfish turds when it comes to paying taxes.
Reagan's lasting gift to the Nation .

Regardless of Reagan, Thomas Jefferson's adage still applies for me. Most poor people do not speculate in money, but if they had their gross income instead of net, they would be better off. They tend to make their living receiving wages, pay, the sweat of their brow. Not in some money house. I also think if the states could control their senators more than either political party, each state would be better served. We are either a nation of the several states or one huge mass of country where state lines and boundaries mean nothing.

Actually that is where we are headed, just one mass nation without states. The founders and framers meant for the federal government to take care of the nation, the welfare of the nation if you will. The states to take care of their people.
 
What would you know about Detroit?
How many other Municipalities in the USA are on the precipice of Detroit?
Since Chattanooga is close to you, I'm sure you're all in with the Liars Corker, Haslam and Norquist.
Volkswagon had to correct their lies on a daily basis .

I never worried about Tennessee. Georgia has enough problems, a lot of them caused by the fed. But we will cope. Closer to home, I seen what one union did to Eastern Airlines, one of several unions. All the other came to agreement, one, the pilots union did not. Bye, bye Eastern. It didn't hurt the pilots one bit, they were immediately picked up by other airlines, now the stewardess, mechanics, other workers were not.

But I do not care one bit one way or the other on unions, that is up to the workers and the company. In the private sector that is. What I disagree with is one having to join a union in order to work there. Joining a union or not should be an individual choice. See I am very pro choice here.
 
Doesn't sound like GWB, actually. The Depression was the fault of central banking (the Fed).

You mean lack of regulation of the banking industry? Sounds similar to 2008 to me. It wasn't only that though.
 
You mean lack of regulation of the banking industry? Sounds similar to 2008 to me. It wasn't only that though.

Not even close. Things like easy credit and increase in MS but then the Fed tightened their policies in 1928 and then there was an economic contraction. Economists disagree, though. I generally agree with Rothbard.
 
Right you are grasshopper.
National Parks, Panama Canal, anti-trust, anti-Gilded wing of the GOP..
An end to 9-YO miners with missing toes and fingers, the backbone of the GOP monopolies.
Progress--ive policies that fixed the gerry-mandered Senate (17th amendment)..
The 16th that scofflaws in the GOP still hate.
And the foundation for ACA.

TR was truly a forward-looking President.
He asked the question, what should it be like in 100 years, just as Lincoln did.
He knew how much his own gilded wing would fight insurance for all .

That stuff is okay, but truly embracing the US has expansionist and basically imperial, beyond the continental US- is what really put the country in a position to flourish in the 20th century. He told a people that were basically isolationist that the world was becoming more connected than they had ever imagined, and if they wanted to live the good life, they better start getting involved throughout the globe.

That policy is much bemoaned by both the Chomsky-esque left and the (still) isolation, John Birch right. It's complained about everyday on Facebook and Twitter and whatnot by both high school students and retirees, and everyone in between. It's cursed on liberal college campuses and conservative town halls across the country. But it's probably the best thing that ever happened to the US.
 
I admire TR. If he was around today there would be none of this too big to fail. I disagree with the 17th amendment, but that is okay. I also think the 16th was a mistake, remember the debate back then was it would only apply to the top 1-3% of the population. Like Thomas Jefferson, I do not believe a man should be taxed by the sweat of his brow. Now money speculators is fine with me. I do not have to agree 100% with any presidents policies to realize who was great, who was average and who is way below average. Heck I would settle for an average president since 2000. TR would be a great bonus.

Not sure about that. Trust busting was natural and appropriate to the economic conditions of the early 20th century, but these days national governments sponsor mega corporations to keep their economies competitive on the international scale. On the other hand, Roosevelt probably would have imposed far greater demands on the rich in exchange for this privilege.
 
Not sure about that. Trust busting was natural and appropriate to the economic conditions of the early 20th century, but these days national governments sponsor mega corporations to keep their economies competitive on the international scale. On the other hand, Roosevelt probably would have imposed far greater demands on the rich in exchange for this privilege.

Perhaps, it is hard to say since conditions are vastly different. I would hope my interpretation would be correct. But if not, yours isn't so bad either. I personally do not believe any company should be too big to fail.
 
That stuff is okay, but truly embracing the US has expansionist and basically imperial, beyond the continental US- is what really put the country in a position to flourish in the 20th century. He told a people that were basically isolationist that the world was becoming more connected than they had ever imagined, and if they wanted to live the good life, they better start getting involved throughout the globe.

You are wise to assess that TR was an imperialist, IMHO.
And that the USA would not be what it is today without being an Imperialist 20th Century.
How soon we all forget where all the oil, minerals and riches came from.
Didn't we invade Mexico in the 1920's to take their oil ?
 
You are wise to assess that TR was an imperialist, IMHO.
And that the USA would not be what it is today without being an Imperialist 20th Century.
How soon we all forget where all the oil, minerals and riches came from.
Didn't we invade Mexico in the 1920's to take their oil ?

Nah, that was gunboat diplomacy. All you have to do is open up markets and make sure they're somewhat secure. People don't like imperialism (economic or otherwise) because it's unfair. And it is. But life ain't fair, boys. Teddy knew that better than most.
 
Theodore Roosevelt laid the groundwork for American Empire which in turn laid the groundwork for the Democratic Empire which Wilson began in earnest. I vote Roosevelt.
 
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The only problem with the 16th is that Americans are a bunch of whiny ******s and selfish turds when it comes to paying taxes.
Reagan's lasting gift to the Nation .

One of the things I hate to see most is when people say I'm selfish for wanting to keep my own money. But without taking 50% of your money, who would build the roads?
 
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