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Michael Dunn Murder Trial of Jordan Davis guilty or not?

So far do you think Michael Dunn is guilty of murder?


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OJ juries are the exception rather than the rule.
During the OJ trial the state's star witness committed perjury. And audio tapes played in court proved it. The jury was only out for 4 hours before the not guilty verdict.
 
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We should have the verdict from the jury soon, I don't see any way that Mr. Dunn will walk out of that courtroom a free man.

That kid should still be alive.


Could this whole thing boil down to perceptions within a 5 - 10 second period of time?
 
Sounds like a verdict is imminent.
 
Judge says there is a verdict on ALL counts.
 
During the OJ trial the state's star witness committed perjury. And audio tapes played in court proved it. The jury was only out for 4 hours before the not guilty verdict.

For a variety of reasons. I presume you've read Vincent Bugliosi's Outrage: The Five Reasons OJ Simpson Got Away with Murder.
 
Aw hell...Jury now says they're deadlocked on one count....heading back to jury room.
 
Coming back in.....we should have an answer but at this point it may be "broccoli".
 
Standing your ground does not mean you can indiscriminately shoot at people.
These laws need to be Nationalized by the SCOTUS, if they are Constitutional, due to the do-nothing House.
The abuse of the 10th amendment by states with RED legislature/governors continues to be an abomination since the time of Reagan .
 
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What a weird decision!!

The only thing I can think of is that one of the jurors wouldn't come off a 1st degree charge and accept 2nd degree. I mean, seriously, how can you be OK with attempted murder on 3 individuals and not conclude murder with regard to the 4th, dead one?
 
Every state should NOT have different laws on murder.
We are ONE Nation of 50 states, not 50 separate Nations.
Btw, I had to turn off Sharpton due to his garbage and watch FOX.
At least they are competent .,
 
A strange set of findings. But the outcome will be that he will be in prison for the rest of his life where he belongs..
 
so what does this mean? It was only a mistrial on one count, so he'll spend time in prison, right? And they can retry him on the first count, right?
 
so what does this mean? It was only a mistrial on one count, so he'll spend time in prison, right? And they can retry him on the first count, right?

He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.
 
He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.

It is problemsome that the jury must select 1st degree, 2nd degree, or manslaughter. If the charge would have just been killing someone I think he would have gotten a quick gulity of killling.
Having to make 12 individuals come up with the same degree of killing cracks that door slightly opened to let the defendent off the hook.

It is just like the hate crime tag. Why do we even have that ? I think it is safe to say that if you killed someone you probably hated them so we don't need the special hate crime. All murders are usually hate crimes.
 
He'll be sentenced on the 3 attempts and the "throwing projectiles" (whatever that is). My understanding is that those charges alone could bring 80 years. There will likely be an appeal on all of those charges but I figure they should stick.

With regard to the 1st degree charge there will most likely be a whole new trial. I really don't see Corey dropping that one under the circumstances.

So this is a mark in the win column for Florida. Good.
 
It is problemsome that the jury must select 1st degree, 2nd degree, or manslaughter. If the charge would have just been killing someone I think he would have gotten a quick gulity of killling.
Having to make 12 individuals come up with the same degree of killing cracks that door slightly opened to let the defendent off the hook.

It is just like the hate crime tag. Why do we even have that ? I think it is safe to say that if you killed someone you probably hated them so we don't need the special hate crime. All murders are usually hate crimes.

We have the trials and the different charges because not every situation is the same. The purpose of the justice system is not simply to convict and punish but to make sure that people are treated fairly with regard to their circumstances.
 
For a variety of reasons. I presume you've read Vincent Bugliosi's Outrage: The Five Reasons OJ Simpson Got Away with Murder.
I read Helter Skelter a few decades ago and got the impression that he is nothing but a dishonest unbelievable scumbag. I haven't read any of his books since then.
 
This is why prosecutors should be sworn in and prosecuted for lying in court.
 
What a weird decision!!

The only thing I can think of is that one of the jurors wouldn't come off a 1st degree charge and accept 2nd degree. I mean, seriously, how can you be OK with attempted murder on 3 individuals and not conclude murder with regard to the 4th, dead one?

I suspect it was possibly a crusty old fart on the Jury who identified with Dunn, didn't want to send Mikey to prison for life and didn't realize guilty on the other counts still got him 75 to 105 years in prison.
 
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I suspect it was possibly a crusty old fart on the Jury who identified with Dunn, didn't want to send Mikey to prison for life and didn't realize guilty on the other counts still got him 75 to 105 years in prison.

It makes sense to me. Some of the jurors believed that they had a reasonable doubt about whether the first three shots were justified, but were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the last volley was unnecessary and thus unjustified. That would make him guilty of the attempted murders and the shooting at the car but would result in the hung jury regarding the murder charge (since it was the first three shots that killed Davis). I see no reason to assume bad faith. BTW, it's 60 to 105, as the last charge doesn't carry a mandatory minimum. So absent extraordinary medical advances he'll be in prison for life (a mandatory minimum can have no more than 18 months left in order for the person to be eligible for parole).
 
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