4: A: Nobody forces a person to apply for a job at a business either. Particularly a business that they know is going to have a rule which conflicts with their beliefs. Such as wearing a skirt when the buisness requires slacks.
B: Aren't we discussing those laws? Didn't you ask if we support those laws? Why state this? Just because it is the law does not mean that it is a good law....or supportable.
C: If it is just about protecting peoples rights then why are there not laws that protect peoples rights to carry a gun...even inside those businesses? Would you support such a law? Why does the business owner get to discriminate against one right but not another? Why is there not a law protecting peoples right to association?
D: I agree. People should be polite and not interfere with other peoples rights. But refusing to hire someone due to thier skin color, religion, sexuality etc etc does not interefere with those peoples rights. People have the right to associate...they do not have the right to a job.
5: Glad you basically said "no". I feel the same.
6: Actually yes...you are factually forced to hire someone if they are a part of those protected classes.
6A.)All that a person has to do is prove that you didn't hire them due to that protected status.
6B.) If a person were to not hire any blacks but instead hired only whites do you really think that a judge is not going to look at that?
6C.) IE quotas.
6D.) If you don't have a protected class working for you then you had dang well better hire some or someone will come along and claim discrimination.
6E.) That's where the force comes in. Yeah, you don't have to hire specific people. But you had dang well better hire someone from a protected class....or else.
7: Think due to your parsing here you missed the point. Try addressing it in full context. IE that sentence was a part of the explanation from number 6.
8: Really? Then why is there so much inter-racial hatred in today's society?
4A.) correct doesnt change anything
4B.) then you are allowed to say you think its a bad law nobody is stopping you but it is the law and it is currently the rights. you can fight to change it but i doubt it would ever work.
4C.) there are but they get violated and we let them get changed and people vote them away. We need to fight for them. My CWP should be vailied in every stat like a drivers licences IMO and every state shoudl be open carry according to the constitution IMO but im not sure how that changes anything
as far as carrying a gun, thats not protected under civil laws onto property and a gun in this case isnt like race, gender etc
in many cases laws conflict and we have decided which ones win.
would "I" support a law like that? for public access business IMO yes i would unless my business was like wall to wall nitrous tanks of something or an extra threat then i would hope other regulations took care that lol
and there factually is a law protecting your right to accurate, like i said early at times rights collide or take a back seat under conditions. I have the right to swing my fist all i want but if it hits you things change right? this is no different
4D.) but it does, rights and laws make it that way and it certainly isnt civil. association takes a back seat because now it infringes on ones right to not be illegally discrimination against. Not right to a job thats just made up.
5.) of course because what you described has nothing to do with this topic
6.) no you are not forced to hire anybody, you are not allowed to illegally discriminate HUGE difference.
6A.) correct and if you didnt break the law you are good
6b.) not any judges the is following the laws
6C.) quotas are illegal
6D.) uhm we ALL have them working for us
6E.) false if you are following the law you are fine
7.) you were right i got cared away with cutting it up
8.) same reason there alway has been . . . . ignorance
same reason there always will be
and there is much much much less now than in the past
only thing goin on right now if the information age and the first black president, gay rights and political division is high
so this cause the large bigots and extra squeaky wheels to be even louder and cry harder because of their fear
but in reality the NORMAL people are less racist them they ever been.
approval of interracial marriage is like 85% in 1967 than many were against it
