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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"

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Dr. Chuckles said:
if you go back and read the discussion, it was obvious you first mentioned "immigrants", then specifically responded to a remark from me about how no test was required for a visa or residency with "I don't know what you're talking about. As far as I was aware, ***you don't get residency unless you pass a citizenship/naturalization test***. Link please?"
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They still have to pass tests and fill out paperwork. Green cards are not just given out, and again that doesn't change the requirements to become a permanent resident.

The United States welcomes thousands of foreign workers in multiple occupations or employment categories every year. These include artists, researchers, cultural exchange participants, information technology specialists, religious workers, investors, scientists, athletes, nurses, agricultural workers and others. All foreign workers must obtain permission to work legally in the United States. Each employment category for admission has different requirements, conditions and authorized periods of stay. It is important that you adhere to the terms of your application or petition for admission and visa. Any violation can result in removal or denial of re-entry into the United States.

Temporary (Nonimmigrant) Worker
A temporary worker is an individual seeking to enter the United States temporarily for a specific purpose. Nonimmigrants enter the United States for a temporary period of time, and once in the United States, are restricted to the activity or reason for which their nonimmigrant visa was issued.

Permanent (Immigrant) Worker
A permanent worker is an individual who is authorized to live and work permanently in the United States.

Students and Exchange Visitors
Students and exchange visitors may, under certain circumstances, be allowed to work in the United States. They must obtain permission from an authorized official at their school. The authorized official is known as a Designed School Official (DSO) for students and the Responsible Officer (RO) for exchange visitors.

Information for Employers & Employees
Employers must verify that an individual whom they plan to employ or continue to employ in the United States is authorized to accept employment in the United States. Individuals, such as those who have been admitted as permanent residents, granted asylum or refugee status, or admitted in work-related nonimmigrant classifications, may have employment authorization as a direct result of their immigration status. Other aliens may need to apply individually for employment authorization.

Temporary Visitors For Business
To visit the United States for business purposes you will need to obtain a visa as a temporary visitor for business (B-1 visa), unless you qualify for admission without a visa under the Visa Waiver Program. For more information on the topics above, select the category related to your situation to the left.
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sangha said:
They are overwhelmed by the # of immigrants who sign up for the class even though, according to the xenophobes, they don't want to learn english

But since you're so eager to protect those immigrants from the risks of not knowing english, I'm sure you support increased funding for the classes.
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why should I be burdened with paying for someone's English classes? It seems the initiative to learn English at one's own expense isn't exactly an onerous burden to place on either long term immigration or citizenship.
 
ChrisL said:
They still have to pass tests and fill out paperwork. Green cards are not just given out, and again that doesn't change the requirements to become a permanent resident.
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you would look a lot less silly just admitting you were wrong.
 
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Arcana XV said:
I can't believe I have to explain your own laws to you guys. Yes, you CAN stay indefinitely on a green card as long as the government keeps renewing it. They are currently valid up to 10 years before you're required to renew it.


Renew a Green Card | USCIS
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I was was just going to say that. And also the renewal forms are in languages other than English.
 
Arcana XV said:
I can't believe I have to explain your own laws to you guys. Yes, you CAN stay indefinitely on a green card as long as the government keeps renewing it. They are currently valid up to 10 years before you're required to renew it.


Renew a Green Card | USCIS
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No you can't. You have to meet certain requirements.
 
The United States welcomes thousands of foreign workers in multiple occupations or employment categories every year. These include artists, researchers, cultural exchange participants, information technology specialists, religious workers, investors, scientists, athletes, nurses, agricultural workers and others. All foreign workers must obtain permission to work legally in the United States. Each employment category for admission has different requirements, conditions and authorized periods of stay. It is important that you adhere to the terms of your application or petition for admission and visa. Any violation can result in removal or denial of re-entry into the United States.

Temporary (Nonimmigrant) Worker
A temporary worker is an individual seeking to enter the United States temporarily for a specific purpose. Nonimmigrants enter the United States for a temporary period of time, and once in the United States, are restricted to the activity or reason for which their nonimmigrant visa was issued.

Permanent (Immigrant) Worker
A permanent worker is an individual who is authorized to live and work permanently in the United States.

Students and Exchange Visitors
Students and exchange visitors may, under certain circumstances, be allowed to work in the United States. They must obtain permission from an authorized official at their school. The authorized official is known as a Designed School Official (DSO) for students and the Responsible Officer (RO) for exchange visitors.

Information for Employers & Employees
Employers must verify that an individual whom they plan to employ or continue to employ in the United States is authorized to accept employment in the United States. Individuals, such as those who have been admitted as permanent residents, granted asylum or refugee status, or admitted in work-related nonimmigrant classifications, may have employment authorization as a direct result of their immigration status. Other aliens may need to apply individually for employment authorization.

Temporary Visitors For Business
To visit the United States for business purposes you will need to obtain a visa as a temporary visitor for business (B-1 visa), unless you qualify for admission without a visa under the Visa Waiver Program. For more information on the topics above, select the category related to your situation to the left.
 
“This multicultural approach has failed, utterly failed.”
Angela Merkel, German Chancellor, October 17, 2010

Good national public policy fosters assimilation, not multiculturalism, for immigrants. People often confuse assimilation and multiculturalism.

Assimilation would be defined by most Americans as the country’s acceptance of hard-working immigrants who want to bring their cultural experiences to the table while simultaneously picking up essential American values. Assimilation is beneficial to society.

Multiculturalism, on the other hand, is proving destructive to society. As taken from recent comments of British Prime Minister David Cameron, today’s multiculturalism has become a “weakening of a national collective identity” through a gradual overhaul of centuries-old American traditions in order to capitulate to every demand of every culture of immigrant in the United States. Recent widespread European critique of multiculturalism, as publicly stated by the chief leaders of France, Great Britain, and Germany, has implications for the United States and provides lessons from which to learn.
 
ChrisL said:
The United States welcomes thousands of foreign workers in multiple occupations or employment categories every year. These include artists, researchers, cultural exchange participants, information technology specialists, religious workers, investors, scientists, athletes, nurses, agricultural workers and others. All foreign workers must obtain permission to work legally in the United States. Each employment category for admission has different requirements, conditions and authorized periods of stay. It is important that you adhere to the terms of your application or petition for admission and visa. Any violation can result in removal or denial of re-entry into the United States.

Temporary (Nonimmigrant) Worker
A temporary worker is an individual seeking to enter the United States temporarily for a specific purpose. Nonimmigrants enter the United States for a temporary period of time, and once in the United States, are restricted to the activity or reason for which their nonimmigrant visa was issued.

Permanent (Immigrant) Worker
A permanent worker is an individual who is authorized to live and work permanently in the United States.

Students and Exchange Visitors
Students and exchange visitors may, under certain circumstances, be allowed to work in the United States. They must obtain permission from an authorized official at their school. The authorized official is known as a Designed School Official (DSO) for students and the Responsible Officer (RO) for exchange visitors.

Information for Employers & Employees
Employers must verify that an individual whom they plan to employ or continue to employ in the United States is authorized to accept employment in the United States. Individuals, such as those who have been admitted as permanent residents, granted asylum or refugee status, or admitted in work-related nonimmigrant classifications, may have employment authorization as a direct result of their immigration status. Other aliens may need to apply individually for employment authorization.

Temporary Visitors For Business
To visit the United States for business purposes you will need to obtain a visa as a temporary visitor for business (B-1 visa), unless you qualify for admission without a visa under the Visa Waiver Program. For more information on the topics above, select the category related to your situation to the left.
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That's cool, but we were talking about green cards. Green cards are not work visas. They're permanent residency permits.

Either way, no requirement anywhere to speak English. :)
 
And also:

http://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Resources/B3en.pdf

Generally, to be eligible for naturalization you must:
• Be age 18 or older; and
• Be a permanent resident for a certain amount of time (usually 5 years or 3 years, depending on how you obtained status); and
• Be a person of good moral character; and
• Have a basic knowledge of U.S. government (this, too, can be excepted due to permanent physical or mental impairment); and
• Have a period of continuous residence and physical presence in the United States; and
• Be able to read, write, and speak basic English. There are exceptions to this rule for someone who at the time of filing:
- Is 55 years old and has been a permanent resident for at least 15 years; or
- Is 50 years old and has been a permanent resident for at least 20 years; or
- Has a permanent physical or mental impairment that makes the individual unable to fulfill these requirements.
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ChrisL said:
The United States welcomes thousands of foreign workers in multiple occupations or employment categories every year. These include artists, researchers, cultural exchange participants, information technology specialists, religious workers, investors, scientists, athletes, nurses, agricultural workers and others. All foreign workers must obtain permission to work legally in the United States. Each employment category for admission has different requirements, conditions and authorized periods of stay. It is important that you adhere to the terms of your application or petition for admission and visa. Any violation can result in removal or denial of re-entry into the United States.
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That's describing work Visas, a green card is authorization for "permanent residency". With a green card you do not need a work visa
 
Arcana XV said:
That's cool, but we were talking about green cards. Green cards are not work visas. They're permanent residency permits.

Either way, no requirement anywhere to speak English. :)
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That needs to be changed. That is awful.
 
Arcana XV said:
The only requirement is to be either in the US or to not have left the US for more than 1 year. If your card is renewed, you're good for another 10 years. Until the next time you renew it...
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Hopefully that will be changed in the near future and should be a provision included in immigration reform.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
That's describing work Visas, a green card is authorization for "permanent residency". With a green card you do not need a work visa
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Well, why would anyone apply for citizenship if they can just stay here without ever becoming a citizen?
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
That's describing work Visas, a green card is authorization for "permanent residency". With a green card you do not need a work visa
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There definitely have to be some provisions. We don't just give anyone a green card. What are the qualifications for getting a green card? Do you have to know anything at all.

Can anyone who is offered a job here just get one without any kind of medical examinations, vaccinations, and not knowing anything about how the country works? This doesn't sound right. I'm thinking there are definitely some stipulations.
 
Arcana XV said:
The only requirement is to be either in the US or to not have left the US for more than 1 year. If your card is renewed, you're good for another 10 years. Until the next time you renew it...
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Well since you seem to be such an expert . . . is there a limit on the number of green cards issued? If so, how many? If a person can just keep renewing their green card, what is the point of even having a citizenship test? I didn't see in your link mentioned anywhere about special provisions, or do they just give them to anyone who wants one?

Do they have to have a medical examination, vaccinations? Do they have to know anything about our laws? What about drivers licenses?
 
ChrisL said:
There definitely have to be some provisions. We don't just give anyone a green card. What are the qualifications for getting a green card? Do you have to know anything at all.

Can anyone who is offered a job here just get one without any kind of medical examinations, vaccinations, and not knowing anything about how the country works? This doesn't sound right. I'm thinking there are definitely some stipulations.
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I think there is a medical exam, yes. And no they don't just give them to anyone. Even the yearly green card lottery is not really a lottery at all and there's definitely some deliberate selection going on.
 
ChrisL said:
There definitely have to be some provisions. We don't just give anyone a green card.
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right, we just don't give anyone a green card. But that isn't the same as having a requirement for being proficient in English

What are the qualifications for getting a green card? Do you have to know anything at all.
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Well, they have been posted here multiple times, by you and in posts you responded to ....

Can anyone who is offered a job here just get one without any kind of medical examinations, vaccinations, and not knowing anything about how the country works? This doesn't sound right. I'm thinking there are definitely some stipulations.
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work visa=/=green card
 
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