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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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But that's not why these proposals have been rejected in the past. It was always some sort of constitutional issue, especially in regards to lex solis and the official national language.

I would have to look into the reasons for that a little more. I'm not really familiar, but right now (unfortunately) I have to get to work and will try to address this later on. :2wave: TTYL!
 
I don't think the average American can tilt their head to the right near enough to see the ad as promoting separation.

But I do think it is funny to hear CONs go on and on about togetherness when their current political philosophy is 'every man for himself' and "the devil take the hindmost'.

I never tire of the radical left's conflation agenda. "Hysterical" can be applied across so many meanings. :lamo

I mearly observed the commercial could have been more powerful had the people tried to sing America the Beautiful in English, with their various accents illustrating we are all one big melting pot.

However, as illustrated, Proglets apparently can't even consider something as simple as an opinion without injecting some absurd venom. :doh
 
Amen Sister, immigration reform is stuck in congress. The problem is that big labor and big business want relaxed immigration laws. They want new union members and they want cheap labor. Many of the rest of us can't figure out why someone who snuck across the border should get special treatment from the government yet those who want to come here legally have to go through a long process. We don't know why we don't protect the border as our constitution instructs us to do. The situations you describe are a real problem. Now the Speaker of the House, a Republican, wants to push through immigration reform which by polling nobody considers the number one priority in a long list of work they could be doing. Our government is hopelessly lost and the only thing that will fix it is a clean sweep. All our congresscritters need to go, both Republican and Democrat, well, except the ones I like.

No argument here. The problem is people keep reelecting the same people over and over, year after year.
 
Because there are certain sectors of our population here in America that would call that bigotry, even if it is logical.

There's an issue with making it official. There's Puerto Rico, and people who's families have been in New Mexico since it was part of "Old" Mexico. I don't think it's necessary for the government to legislate what language people speak.

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No they don't. They just see it differently than you do.

And some people see their future in a deck of cards, or in the lines on their hands, or in their horoscope.

All idiots and buffoons.

It was a coke commercial. One that was done quite nicely, and very tastefully.

There was NOTHING offensive about it.

It was a celebration of the United States Of America and the people that make it what it is.
 
I loved it - great ad.

My favorite is the Ray Charles version.
 
I never tire of the radical left's conflation agenda. "Hysterical" can be applied across so many meanings. I mearly observed the commercial could have been more powerful had the people tried to sing America the Beautiful in English, with their various accents illustrating we are all one big melting pot. However, as illustrated, Proglets apparently can't even consider something as simple as an opinion without injecting some absurd venom.

Talk about hysterical. :roll:

You didn't say it would have been 'more powerful in English' you tried a CON spin on separation... :doh

CONs seem to suffer from short term memory loss as they are never able to remember what they REALLY said.

No conflagration, merely holding a light on the CON game. That is seems awfully brite is on you :2wave:
 
This has been going on for decades, though. Kinda makes you wonder why nothing has been done to change it, other than to provide amnesty for millions every other decade. Why don't you change your lex solis laws? Why don't you make English the only official language throughout the nation? Why is it so easy to just show up and get a house, a job, a drivers license etc... when you have no valid immigration papers? Why not create a system that requires employers, landlords etc.. to verify iimigrations status? Every time these solutions have been proposed your politicians have invariably argued against them on some dodgy constitutional grounds. It's all well and good to complain, but it's not like this is a new problem. It's been decades in the making and the only solution that is ever implemented is amnesty. :shrug:

Because there are certain sectors of our population here in America that would call that bigotry, even if it is logical.

There are also certain sectors of our population who welcome the addition of "useless" people simply because they know that those people will vote for their particular political party regardless of whether they can be said to contribute anything of value to the nation at large or not. :roll:
 
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Talk about hysterical. :roll:

You didn't say it would have been 'more powerful in English' you tried a CON spin on separation... :doh

CONs seem to suffer from short term memory loss as they are never able to remember what they REALLY said.

No conflagration, merely holding a light on the CON game. That is seems awfully brite is on you :2wave:


Sorry, I left the playground behind years ago. Enjoy the jungle gym.
 
A Mexican gardener isn't putting anybody at risk by not speaking English.
A Nigerian cab driver who knows street names in English and nothing else isn't putting anybody at risk.
A Chinese guy who only understands "Number ...." at Chinese restaurants isn't putting you at risk.
A Greek guy mopping floors at the mall after 10PM isn't putting you at risk.
An Arab who fixes computers at a coffee shop isn't putting you at risk.

These are the jobs that immigrants do. They're not doctors or even construction workers for the most part. The majority of them work menial jobs that Americans don't want to be paid $7.50 an hour to do. :shrug:

Don't forget about those damn lettuce pickers. They're dangerous, you know.
 
Fine, tax those individuals who just can't stand to interact or even know that some people, gasp, can't speak good English, to pay for English language programs for those immigrant (or bad English!) populations. See if they want to put their money where their xenophobia is.

WTF people, grow up. Yes, trying to get a hair cut when you don't think the person is understanding your English is annoying...so you don't go there. You know, like in "land of the free".

We have a few old timers at our work and they get all pissy about "they don't speak English", it's small minded and embarrassing to hear them say it.
The Chinese gal on the other end of that phone who doesn't speak good English but is doing an engineering job is wondering why this old American coot doesn't understand the language of mathematics as well as she does, which is as much or more essential to the job in the first place.

Don't worry, Google will perfect the auto-translator, you'll stick a speaker in your ear and it will translate all that stuff that offends you into the pure language of mother American (with a slight delay). Then you can complain about the next xeno hot topic, maybe how that "ethnic food section" in the major grocery store chains now offends you.
 
Sorry, I left the playground behind years ago. Enjoy the jungle gym.

Ummm no you didn't! You lost and now are going to run away pouting... :roll:

You tried to push some rather absurd separation BS and when called on it resorted to typical CON spin, claims of hysterics and conflagration. :roll:

"this little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, let it shine, let it shine, let it shine...." :2wave:
 
Fine, tax those individuals who just can't stand to interact or even know that some people, gasp, can't speak good English, to pay for English language programs for those immigrant (or bad English!) populations. See if they want to put their money where their xenophobia is.

WTF people, grow up. Yes, trying to get a hair cut when you don't think the person is understanding your English is annoying...so you don't go there. You know, like in "land of the free".

We have a few old timers at our work and they get all pissy about "they don't speak English", it's small minded and embarrassing to hear them say it.
The Chinese gal on the other end of that phone who doesn't speak good English but is doing an engineering job is wondering why this old American coot doesn't understand the language of mathematics as well as she does, which is as much or more essential to the job in the first place.

Don't worry, Google will perfect the auto-translator, you'll stick a speaker in your ear and it will translate all that stuff that offends you into the pure language of mother American (with a slight delay). Then you can complain about the next xeno hot topic, maybe how that "ethnic food section" in the major grocery store chains now offends you.

We already offer such programs for FREE for immigrants.
 
Don't forget about those damn lettuce pickers. They're dangerous, you know.

Because they can't speak English, their job opportunities are SEVERELY limited, and YES it can most certainly be dangerous work, not to mention these immigrants who are ignorant of English are taken advantage of, so the only thing you are doing by persisting with this ridiculous angle is putting people in difficult economic and social positions. Your ideology does NOTHING to help immigrants and EVERYTHING to hurt them.

In the labor camps, the adults will tell you kids don't work in the fields. They'll say the children stay within the clusters of wooden shacks that house migrant workers and their families, or attend summer school while their parents tend to the crops.

"Los niños no trabajan," a woman at a farm near Salem told a visiting reporter in July.

Minutes later, foreman Leonidon Mendoza Morales arrived and told a different story. The farmworker offered a seat in his flatbed truck and sped down rocky dirt roads, past the landowner's home and into a field containing endless rows of green.

There, his 12-year-old daughter, Diana, toiled in the summer heat with four younger children. Diana's 9-year-old brother, Elvin, intermittently crouched and stood in a bramble of blackberries. Elvin's small hands, wearing stained and torn latex gloves, felt between thorns for berries to place in the bucket harnessed over his shoulders and around his waist, laden with 15 pounds of fruit.
 
Coke's gay ad will be attached to a lousy football game. That's what people will remember.
 
Cuando quieras hablamos en cualquiera de los dos por Skype. :)



Joko, there are no other languages remember? There is only English multilingualism. C'est dommage que tu sois si con que ça.

I'm not on Skype.

That is not what I wrote about multilingualism but it apparently too complex a concept for you. Stormfront could at least give you a rational response in relation to my message from your perspectives.

You may want people of Latino ancestry to wear sombreros insure everyone knows they are Latino, but the bigotry you want to exist is dying away. Your team demanding separate but equal isolating people by ethnicity isn't going to happen. Your side lost and it rapidly becoming a bad history people want to forget. Time and again you've made your personal contempt of Latinos well known.
 
There's an issue with making it official. There's Puerto Rico, and people who's families have been in New Mexico since it was part of "Old" Mexico. I don't think it's necessary for the government to legislate what language people speak.

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Yep, it does. What else sucks? The amazingly intellectually dishonest arguments people continually use trying to reference native americans and comparing that to immigrants today.

The settlers of the Americas did not come over here and attempt to "join" the Native Tribes. By and large, they were not seeking to try and become part of the Navajo or the Cherokee or the Mohawk. They came over, tried to claim plots of land as their own, and tried to start their own society and community separate from what was established, without seeking to be a part of what was here before.

That is SIGNIFICANTLY different than individuals coming into the American society, gaining citizenship under the American government, gaining benefits from the American system, etc.

A better equivalent would be a group of foreigners coming into the United States border, proclaiming a plot of American land “theirs”, and trying to create their own little society on it. A situation like THAT, the native American memes would make sense to….an “invading” group claims land that the original inhabitants also claimed. Of course, they’d likely be repelled by the United States government for doing so.

This is similar to the idiotic notion I saw earlier in the thread suggesting various native American languages were the “original” language. No, not it wasn’t. They were perhaps the original languages of the various locations around North America…but the original predominant language of “The United States of America” WAS English. It’s not inaccurate to suggest that, but it is inaccurate to portray various native tongues as what was “originally” the language here…because when speaking of a culture and a society the notion of a “land mass” isn’t the dividing line.

All the constant attempts to insert Native Americans into the conversation are is an attempt to appeal to emotion by bringing up a group of people that admittedly got a raw deal often in our countries history, and whose land we basically took by force (granted, this is the way much of the “official” land the world over has been claimed in some fashion or another).

There was no significant attempt by the settlers to “immigrate” into the tribes of the Americas. Rather, to be quite honest, it was an invasion and conquering of the land to form a new society within the boundries of the Americas. NOW…if you want to try and claim that immigrants coming into this country are trying to invade us, then perhaps the comparison is reasonable. But otherwise it’s not a good analog in the least.
 
But that's not why these proposals have been rejected in the past. It was always some sort of constitutional issue, especially in regards to lex solis and the official national language.

I did a very limited search so far, and I really can't find any information that isn't biased one way or another. Either they are calling the people who want English as the official language bigots and racists, or the other side is calling those who are against it traitors and such. It's obviously a very emotional issue for a lot of people. I did find this interesting article though, and I completely agree with it.

Unite the nation behind one language | TheHill
 
Democrats want Latinos to remain a separate and downtrodden voting faction - so have adopted the logic that slave owners used when outlawing slaves being taught how to read and write. For a political agenda the DNC - and accordingly their minions - have run to the radical ultra right on this topic.
 
Yep, it does. What else sucks? The amazingly intellectually dishonest arguments people continually use trying to reference native americans and comparing that to immigrants today.

The settlers of the Americas did not come over here and attempt to "join" the Native Tribes. By and large, they were not seeking to try and become part of the Navajo or the Cherokee or the Mohawk. They came over, tried to claim plots of land as their own, and tried to start their own society and community separate from what was established, without seeking to be a part of what was here before.

That is SIGNIFICANTLY different than individuals coming into the American society, gaining citizenship under the American government, gaining benefits from the American system, etc.

A better equivalent would be a group of foreigners coming into the United States border, proclaiming a plot of American land “theirs”, and trying to create their own little society on it. A situation like THAT, the native American memes would make sense to….an “invading” group claims land that the original inhabitants also claimed. Of course, they’d likely be repelled by the United States government for doing so.

This is similar to the idiotic notion I saw earlier in the thread suggesting various native American languages were the “original” language. No, not it wasn’t. They were perhaps the original languages of the various locations around North America…but the original predominant language of “The United States of America” WAS English. It’s not inaccurate to suggest that, but it is inaccurate to portray various native tongues as what was “originally” the language here…because when speaking of a culture and a society the notion of a “land mass” isn’t the dividing line.

All the constant attempts to insert Native Americans into the conversation are is an attempt to appeal to emotion by bringing up a group of people that admittedly got a raw deal often in our countries history, and whose land we basically took by force (granted, this is the way much of the “official” land the world over has been claimed in some fashion or another).

There was no significant attempt by the settlers to “immigrate” into the tribes of the Americas. Rather, to be quite honest, it was an invasion and conquering of the land to form a new society within the boundries of the Americas. NOW…if you want to try and claim that immigrants coming into this country are trying to invade us, then perhaps the comparison is reasonable. But otherwise it’s not a good analog in the least.


The point is - People getting offended because there's different languages in a 30 second ad for a soft drink is stupid. It's people looking for something to get offended about - like the Cheerios ad.
 
Redskins fans (that don't want to change the name) getting bent about a lack of respect for traditional culture is too funny. Can't pay for this.
 
Because they can't speak English, their job opportunities are SEVERELY limited, and YES it can most certainly be dangerous work, not to mention these immigrants who are ignorant of English are taken advantage of, so the only thing you are doing by persisting with this ridiculous angle is putting people in difficult economic and social positions. Your ideology does NOTHING to help immigrants and EVERYTHING to hurt them.

Nice hyperbole. Also, PUTTING EVERYTHING IN CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT ANY STRONGER.

Come on Chris. Don't act like you are worried about them being taken advantage of. :lol: The migrant workers know full well what they face when they come here to work, yet they still risk life and limb to come here and work. That tells me that things are so bad where they are, that they are willing to do whatever needs to be done to be here.
 
I'm not on Skype.

That is not what I wrote about multilingualism but it apparently too complex a concept for you. Stormfront could at least give you a rational response in relation to my message from your perspectives.

You may want people of Latino ancestry to wear sombreros insure everyone knows they are Latino, but the bigotry you want to exist is dying away. Your team demanding separate but equal isolating people by ethnicity isn't going to happen. Your side lost and it rapidly becoming a bad history people want to forget. Time and again you've made your personal contempt of Latinos well known.

Lol @ sombreros - what nonsense. Yoko, whenever you want in whatever mode you'd like, I'd be more than willing to record a conversation in all 3 languages I speak. You can speak in Arawak or whatever it is you speak. Crying "racism" because I don't measure people by whether or not they speak English is racist? That's sillier than claiming that if you speak English, you speak multiple languages. ;) Remember when you did that?
 
“America The Beautiful” was sung by bilingual American young women.

Well, there you go. Case closed. American and bilingual. Does anyone have a problem with this?


Again, while I think people are overreacting to the video, who performed it is something rather different than the content and perceived message.
 
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