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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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You shouldn't assume you know, just because I said we should learn a foreign language in our schools doesn't mean I don't think we shouldn't focus on other areas too. Besides learning a foreign language has its benefits, I speak a foreign language and look how smarter I am than you

:D

"Smarter" means constantly pissed off and flaming anyone who disagrees with you?
 
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Trying to settle? Nobody is trying to settle any nation. That's done by governments. People come here to eek out a living. That's it. They don't come here to wave flags and eat hot dogs and go to the Macy's parade. They come here to get a job, buy a house and send their kids to school. Not to engage in some faux nationalism you subscribe to.

That's not always true. » Colorado High School to Students: No Celebration Honoring America Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
 
"Smarter" means constantly pissed of and flaming anyone who disagrees with you?

No that's just how it looks when I don't respect the person I'm talking to. Although I have noticed that since getting home just a few weeks ago from my deployment that I'm generally more pissed off at everything in general.
 
Why is this a problem for you?

I am, to be quite honest, ambivalent about the whole thing.

White culture might very well be a train wreck, and it might very well deserve to collapse.

However, it is still my culture. If it goes the way of the dodo, it is going to be a rather negative turn of events for both myself and my descendants.

Start making babies my dude.

That's exactly what I said! :lol:

It's not in decline. You're just upset because white people are going to be a minority

According to the math, the non-Hispanic portion of the US population is in decline. End of discussion. :roll:

ut the way you conflate white people with "native US" is quite revealing. Don't you realize that black people and latinos can be native US citizens?

Again, the African American population is more or less stagnant. Virtually all population growth is being fueled by Latin immigrants.

They are not "American" on either a cultural or ethnic basis, nor will they be until they assimilate. Assimilating into the greater US culture is precisely what they are failing to do at the present moment.

Yes, when you use correlation, it proves causation. When others use correlation, you whine "Correlation doesn't prove causation!"

My claims actually make logical sense, and are backed by credible sources. Yours are not. :lol:
 
No that's just how it looks when I don't respect the person I'm talking to. Although I have noticed that since getting home just a few weeks ago from my deployment that I'm generally more pissed off at everything in general.

Do you only respect those who agree with you? Because that's how it appears.
 
pbrauer;1062879191[B said:
]It was one of the Super Bowl ads:
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Anyone who doesn't like it should go back where they or their ancestor's came from.




Everyone living in the USA today who isn't a Native American is either an immigrant or the descendant of immigrants.

"All of the problems that we face in the USA today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian." ~ Pat Paulsen
 
No that's just how it looks when I don't respect the person I'm talking to. Although I have noticed that since getting home just a few weeks ago from my deployment that I'm generally more pissed off at everything in general.

What I want to say I will not say.
So all I will say is welcome home Wiseone.
 
I agree. We now have millions of jobs for waiters, car washers, barbers, taxi drivers, fast food cooks, janitors, gardeners. As ****ty as turn of the century steel mill work and with terrible pay just in case you were worried about not being exploited.

There are also thousands of jobs available for drivers, sales people and many more for tradesmen. Parapsychologists, philosophers or graduates in feminist studies? Not so much.
 
No that's just how it looks when I don't respect the person I'm talking to. Although I have noticed that since getting home just a few weeks ago from my deployment that I'm generally more pissed off at everything in general.

That happens to all of us on occasion, and welcome home.
 
I agree. We now have millions of jobs for waiters, car washers, barbers, taxi drivers, fast food cooks, janitors, gardeners. As ****ty as turn of the century steel mill work and with terrible pay just in case you were worried about not being exploited.

most of those jobs would require a heavier use of English than a steel worker
 
No that's just how it looks when I don't respect the person I'm talking to. Although I have noticed that since getting home just a few weeks ago from my deployment that I'm generally more pissed off at everything in general.

Welcome home, it's nice to see you back Wiseone.

Beware of the Dark Side. Buy a punching bag - great way to keep fit and release some frustration. Works for me..
 
There are also thousands of jobs available for drivers, sales people and many more for tradesmen. Parapsychologists, philosophers or graduates in feminist studies? Not so much.
This is better than Apache's stuff.
He's been OTR, on the rant, lately.
And as you say, OTR, over-the-road, has a lot of jobs--shows where the economy is headed.

I always like it when one of those "colored" names shows up in the thread.
I check the thread title right away and think, did I **** up ??
 
most of those jobs would require a heavier use of English than a steel worker

You haven't been to a major city in a while, have you? Try walking into a Chinese restaurant and getting the waiters to say more than "Numba 42. Spicy? Okay!"
 
You haven't been to a major city in a while, have you? Try walking into a Chinese restaurant and getting the waiters to say more than "Numba 42. Spicy? Okay!"

My grand father made a decent living working the steel mills. I doubt that is going to be replicated slinging number 42s at your local ****i-wok. my point being that back in the early and mid 1900's, it was much easier to earn a decent wage while not knowing english due to the type of jobs that were available, now, things are more specialized
 
I understand what they were going for, but the concept still made me vaguely uncomfortable.

If a nation's citizens need one thing in common in order to function effectively, it tends to be a language they can all speak and mutually understand. Tolerance for multiculturalism is all well and good, but it cannot be a society's primary objective in and of itself.

It simply doesn't lead anywhere productive.

Could that one language be Spanish? or Chinese?
 
In Joko's train of thought, there are only two languages in existence. English and not-English. We're all philistines.

Your view of what language and communications is nonsensical. Nor do I believe you know Spanish and French. You think it would be cool to know both so claim that you do.

Mostly, you apparently have NO clue that languages are to communicate with other people. You WANT people put into ethic and racial categories and what them kept separate - "but equal - by language. How else could you goal of preserving bigotries succeed?

You logic is the logic of why it was a criminal offense to teach slaves to read English. You do not want inferior people to you - meaning racially and ethnically - to be part of your society.
 
You haven't been to a major city in a while, have you? Try walking into a Chinese restaurant and getting the waiters to say more than "Numba 42. Spicy? Okay!"

Bigoted messages are your specialty.
 
I fail to see how this particular coke commercial could in any way be offensive or insulting to anyone.

How soft and pathetic have "we" become when something of this nature causes disgust or discomfort?
 
I fail to see how this particular coke commercial could in any way be offensive or insulting to anyone.

How soft and pathetic have "we" become when something of this nature causes disgust or discomfort?

I was stumped as well at first, but it turns out that, not being an American citizen myself, I was seeing the ad through different eyes. I saw it as a message to other cultures that America's doors are open to them. No matter what country you're from or what language you speak, you'll be welcome to our beautiful country. It seems that many Americans saw the ad and interpreted it quite differently. They saw something sinister that awoke fears of losing their identity as a nation. I'm not saying they don't have a valid point, mass immigration tends to cause cultural shifts and seeing something familiar slowly morphing into something altogether different is very unsettling. Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done about it. It's the very essence of human history. Cultures rise and fall, merge, evolve and change.
 
What is it that you people cannot understand about what WE are saying? We are not saying we don't want immigrants or that we dislike their culture or their languages.

Now I'm going to say this again, so pay CLOSE attention to the words here: The problem here is that these immigrants (illegals who cannot speak english), ADD to our poverty level. They are hurting THEMSELVES too. We need to be able to COMMUNICATE with one another in order to make things work. If we cannot communicate with one another, that is going to lead to a lot of misunderstanding and DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.

Do you get it now? Or are you all still going to cry bigotry because that's all you can see in everything?
 
Now here is an example of just SOME of the things that can happen on the job site when people cannot communicate with one another.

For Hard Hats, a Confusion of Tongues
By TINA KELLEY
Published: December 15, 1999
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Last summer, as a worker welded steel beams in a church in Aurora, Colo., falling sparks ignited wooden trusses below. Another worker, seeing the flames and smoke, yelled a warning, but the welder did not understand a word.

He spoke Spanish; his co-worker spoke Russian. So the fire spread, causing several hundred thousand dollars in damages. ''If someone could've communicated there, there would've been less damage, and they could have stopped the spread of the fire,'' said Terry Kish, director of human resources services for the Colorado Contractors Association in Englewood.

As more immigrants pour into the United States, more workplaces are resounding with the sound of foreign tongues. Keeping the lines of communication open among linguistic groups is important in any work setting, of course, but nowhere is it more critical than in the construction trade, where misunderstandings can set in motion million-dollar mistakes -- or cost lives.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration cites the example of a demolition worker who was killed last year when he was struck by the boom of the machine he was operating while demolishing a Manhattan office building. He left the machine while it was running and inadvertently pressed the boom control pedal. The safety instruction book was written in English; the worker understood only Polish.
 
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