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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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You can't understand the concept that someone may have the same values as you but speak a different language as their primary tongue?

In actual practice, that has proven to be completely false.

The problem America is having with the non-Western immigrants of the past thirty years is that they all seem to rush to the Liberal Democrat Party on a permanent basis, without the random mathematical distribution that would be expected.

Specific country immigration quotas need to be lowered so there are less immigrants and changed in order to achieve more diversity in the immigrant cultural population. It has been a terrible detriment to America to simply import entire cultures, such as Hispanics and Asians, while shutting out the rest of the world.
 
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We don't need any pesky immigrants coming over to this country. :roll: I mean, it was good enough for our parents, grandparents and great grandparents, but not anymore! Borders are closed!

I think it's more a case of what you think the USA was intended to be.

Do you see it as a melting pot ...

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or as a smorgasbord ...

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So I finally got a chance to actually take a look at the video. I honestly don't understand why so many people are offended or upset. It's actually a huge compliment to the United States. The way I understand the add, it's conveying the message that the country is still a beacon that attracts immigrants from all over the world. What the heck is the wrong with that??

Absolutely nothing, Arcana. I don't understand why anyone would be upset myself.
 
In actual practice, that has proven to be completely false.

The problem America is having with the non-Western immigrants of the past thirty years is that they all seem to rush to the Liberal Democrat Party on a permanent basis, without the random mathematical distribution that would be expected.

Specific country immigration quotas need to be lowered so there are less immigrants and changed in order to achieve more diversity in the immigrant cultural population. It has been a terrible detriment to America to simply import entire cultures, such as Hispanics and Asians, while shutting out the rest of the world.

Maybe white conservatives just like it where they are. Maybe they don't want to move to the US.
 
Does anyone see the irony of Muslims, many of whom come from countries that execute gays and subjugate women, are in the commercial singing a song written by a lesbian?
 
The song was fine and the commercial was fine. I don't care if you disliked the commercial, but calling it "unamerican" and "disrespectful" makes you look like an Americentric ass.
 
Actually it was the New York Times who referred to Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic". You actually should begin watching Fox News if you want a broader view of what's going on in the world. MSNBC shouldn't be your only source.

LOL...no thank you. I don't watch FauxNews or MSNBC for the same reason. They are both propoganda outlets. As far as the NY Times, saying that Zimmerman was white and hispanic, I believe is accurate. I believe that he is bi-racial, unless I misunderstood. But it certainly isn't the same as calling him "white" or "Caucasian" which is what Rocketman was suggesting.
 
LOL...no thank you. I don't watch FauxNews or MSNBC for the same reason. They are both propoganda outlets. As far as the NY Times, saying that Zimmerman was white and hispanic, I believe is accurate. I believe that he is bi-racial, unless I misunderstood. But it certainly isn't the same as calling him "white" or "Caucasian" which is what Rocketman was suggesting.

Oh, I see the problem now.

The NYTimes didn't say he was White and Hispanic.
 
Does anyone see the irony of Muslims, many of whom come from countries that execute gays and subjugate women, are in the commercial singing a song written by a lesbian?

We have to pretend they don't do these things. I'm not sure why but it seem to be an unwritten rule somewhere.
 
Does anyone see the irony of Muslims, many of whom come from countries that execute gays and subjugate women, are in the commercial singing a song written by a lesbian?

No.
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We have to pretend they don't do these things. I'm not sure why but it seem to be an unwritten rule somewhere.

D'ya think that maybe those are among the reasons those people left?
 
What people left from where to where to do what?

Those people who left those places where we pretend those other people don't do those things they do.
 
LOL...no thank you. I don't watch FauxNews or MSNBC for the same reason. They are both propoganda outlets. As far as the NY Times, saying that Zimmerman was white and hispanic, I believe is accurate. I believe that he is bi-racial, unless I misunderstood. But it certainly isn't the same as calling him "white" or "Caucasian" which is what Rocketman was suggesting.

Yeah, DD. You should watch more Fox News.

:lol: :lol:

Right. And monkeys might fly outta my butt.

I'd watch nothing before I watched Fox News. It'd be much less dangerous to be underinformed, than misinformed..
 
I'm well aware of that. I'm Canadian. I'm also aware that it's never made my country either ineffective, or unproductive. :shrug:

No, but it certainly highlights the possible issues with the lack of integration with the larger cultural ideal. Which, as I said, makes it an odd example to cite in this thread and as a response to a poster who was essentially discussing such things. Certainly Switzerland is a good example of the opposite, but I imagine that is more based on the regional outlets the various linguistic groups have and the fact that economic and social opportunity seems largely equalized (my understanding of swiss politics is rather limited so correct me if I am wrong). The likely issue the US would face with a strongly isolated ethnic group, which an ingrained language barrier would help establish, is that we are talking about an economic underclass that would be further limiting their ability to take advantage of social and economic opportunity.
 
Wow. What a concept. Wish we could follow it, and not be so afraid of others.

you should really read up on some of the rather serious ethnic tensions in Australia. I know Americans love embracing this idea that we are rather unique, even in our faults. But we really are not
 
We live in very sensitive times where anyone questioning the correct political positions is branded a 'racist', 'misogynist', anti Gay, and so on.

However we should keep in mind that language is a means of communication only and encouraging people to speak the common language, especially in a 'melting pot' like the US, is not necessarily a bad thing.

An argument was made a few years ago that 'Ebonics' should be taught to Black children in school because that's what they spoke in their neighborhoods. The result was that these Black children grew up to be unemployable.

These people can be made welcome and encouraged to speak their native language, or any language they choose, but they are likely to be shut out from the mainstream and restricted to working and socializing only with those with the same language and culture. Without English the average person's world shrinks remarkably. And the better your English is the more employable and socially advanced you will become.That's just the way it is.

this is a great post and should be read and acknowledged by everyone here
 
What does the term "White Hispanic" mean to you?

I'm more familiar with 'Hispanic' standing on its own than calling anyone a 'Black' , 'Brown' or 'White' Hispanic. Do they use those terms were you live?
 
Of course I can. However, the topic is a commercial, and the story it's trying to tell in a matter of seconds.

Ummm that in America, people who came from across the world have a common thread and love for the new homeland?

Oh and have a Coke and a smile..... :2wave:
 
The song was fine and the commercial was fine. I don't care if you disliked the commercial, but calling it "unamerican" and "disrespectful" makes you look like an Americentric ass.

"Americentric?" :lol:

It's an American commcerial, singing a patriotic American song, broadcast during the largest American sporting event of the year, dealing with an American socio-political issue. What the Hell else could it possibly be, but "Americentric?"

Some of us happen to believe that this nation should be run primarily with the interests of its citizenry in mind, rather than "good intentions" and magic pixie dust. I apologize if you find the idea offensive. :roll:
 
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Can you honestly say that if 100 Frenchmen came over, you would have a problem with it?

Honestly, it's hypocritical that people are OK with some immigrants, but not others. If we are going to allow for certain nationalities, we have to allow for all of them. I am not pointing a finger at you, Chris - most people who are anti-immigration are actually anti-Mexican immigration, or anti-Cuban immigration.

I just don't know why. Europeans come over here and within 5 days, they've gotten jobs, impregnated the boss's daughter and are building a house. Mexicans come over and they are cutting the Frenchman's grass, and looking over their shoulders for immigration.

I don't understand why some is OK but not all.

Because 'MURICA!
 
Some of us happen to believe that this nation should be run primarily with the interests of its citizenry in mind, rather than "good intentions" and magic pixie dust. I apologize if you find the idea offensive. :roll:
Sorry, forgot that Coke runs the nation. Oops.
 
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