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Your opinion on Coke's version of America The Beautiful? [W:1014]

Do You like this version of "America The Beautiful?"


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So I finally got a chance to actually take a look at the video. I honestly don't understand why so many people are offended or upset. It's actually a huge compliment to the United States. The way I understand the add, it's conveying the message that the country is still a beacon that attracts immigrants from all over the world. What the heck is the wrong with that??
 
So I finally got a chance to actually take a look at the video. I honestly don't understand why so many people are offended or upset. It's actually a huge compliment to the United States. The way I understand the add, it's conveying the message that the country is still a beacon that attracts immigrants from all over the world. What the heck is the wrong with that??

I think that, in some, just the word 'immigrant' evokes fear and loathing.
 
No he was the first president born a citizen in the United States. Previous presidents were all naturalized citizens

So I suppose that everyone in the untied States at the time of the signing became a 'naturalized' American citizen, sans ceremony or documents, and prior to that were a people without a country.

In any case, it's an interesting trivia question.
 
Oh, thanks for reminding me that we have a 1st amendment. I totally forgot about that! You are so god damn helpful, you are truly a treasure to this forum.

Maybe you can cruise around the internet and find people who want to imprison the Coca Cola CEO for the ad, then inform them about the 1st amendment.

Lot of butt hurt man...

Imagine how powerful the message would have been, if all the people attempted to sing "America the Beautiful" in English, dispite the impact their natual accent had on the words...

Could have had the same impact, the message of lots of different kind of people coming together as one.
 
I think that, in some, just the word 'immigrant' evokes fear and loathing.

"A socialist, a Muslim, and an illegal immigrant walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What can I get for you Mr.President"?
 
So I suppose that everyone in the untied States at the time of the signing became a 'naturalized' American citizen, sans ceremony or documents, and prior to that were a people without a country.

In any case, it's an interesting trivia question.


yeh had that one thrown at me at a family xmas party
 
I just sat through it. Frankly, it's a boring tune, as most nationalist dirges are. Certainly nothing to get your Depends in a wad over.

It works for Yanks as we are not a nation of singers like the 'Mother Country'.... ;)

That Star Spangled Banner is just too uppity for most of us to even attempt.

And it probably means a bit more to a Yank than a Tommy as we love our American imagery- purple majesties and all. All that was missing was a busty blonde in Daisy Dukes holding a Yoo-hoo and a sparkler.... Gawd Bless Ameerica, ya'll...... :2wave:
 
I suppose. One champions the separation, the other would have celebrated, well, you get the idea.

Oh well, separation is the flavor of the era.

You can't understand the concept that someone may have the same values as you but speak a different language as their primary tongue?
 
You can't understand the concept that someone may have the same values as you but speak a different language as their primary tongue?

Of course I can.

However, the topic is a commercial, and the story it's trying to tell in a matter of seconds.
 
Could have had the same impact, the message of lots of different kind of people coming together as one.

Personally, I think the impact of the "message" they were seemingly trying to send would've been more widely received and would've been more impactful...

However...

The controversy, and thus the amount of free additional publicity, would've been less.

Contrary to the ridiculous stereotypes of bigoted folks...most conservatives are not anti-immigrant. They have a strong disdain for illegal immigration, and they also have a strong disdain in general for multiculturalism and a seeming celebration of non-assimilation.

As I said in an earlier post, I think there would've been significantly less backlash had they went the route of everyone speaking English, but clearly affected by each person’s individual accent. Doing so would’ve kept one part of the message strong, that of a culturally diverse country, while helping to even out the strength of the other half of the message, that despite our diversity we all share a common heritage (love of country).

By having each sing in English, with each individual accent showing through, you’d have a situation where the song itself isn’t simply part of the theme, but a wonderful unification of the themes….a commonly understood, bonding, symbol of our heritage that is clear and yet unmistakably touched upon by the unique differences of each person singing in the commercial. By simply using the melody, rather than the words, being that unifying factor I think it actually weakens the broad appeal of pushing that message.

For those who appreciate multiculturalism, the presence and celebration of various cultures being spotlighted in the commercial would’ve been an uplifting bit of imagery. For those who appreciate assimilation, the presence of a clear common and patriotic thread through the singing of America the beautiful would’ve been an uplifting bit of imagery. Going this route, you have a broad appeal to those who come at the notion of immigration and cultural diversity in different ways.

I personally don’t think there’s anything WRONG with the commercial. It’s not something that got me bothered; but it wasn’t exactly something I found uplifting either. I generally don’t support the tendency towards celebrating ones previous heritage over embracing and assimilating into the heritage of your new home, so the clearly one-sided focus of it didn’t touch me as it likely would others. I just kind of shrugged at it, and in my head went “ugg…this is going to cause a controversy”.

But I do think with a simple tweak they could’ve created a far better commercial that would’ve still reached most of those it currently did, but also reach a lot more people as well. However, as I said…that’d probably cause less controversy, so in the end would’ve probably been a less “successful” commercial from a business stand point.
 
is that why liberals portrayed Zimmy versus Trayvon as black and white when Zim was not white at all but hispanic. I don't think liberals and progressives can make up their minds sometimes.

I don't think you were paying attention. I don't know anyone who portrayed Zimmerman as white, nor do I view that as a "liberal" v. "conservative" issue.
 
I don't think you were paying attention. I don't know anyone who portrayed Zimmerman as white, nor do I view that as a "liberal" v. "conservative" issue.

you must have failed to watch the media outlets during that time.
 
I don't think you were paying attention. I don't know anyone who portrayed Zimmerman as white, nor do I view that as a "liberal" v. "conservative" issue.

If you don't know what went on then it didn't happen?
 
you must have failed to watch the media outlets during that time.

I watched plenty. Zimmerman was always portrayed as a light skinned hispanic in my circles. Then again...I wasn't watching FauxNews...which was probably, true to form, trying to make it a black v. white, liberal v. conservative political issue.
 
I watched plenty. Zimmerman was always portrayed as a light skinned hispanic in my circles. Then again...I wasn't watching FauxNews...which was probably, true to form, trying to make it a black v. white, liberal v. conservative political issue.

Denial is not a defense or position
 
I watched plenty. Zimmerman was always portrayed as a light skinned hispanic in my circles. Then again...I wasn't watching FauxNews...which was probably, true to form, trying to make it a black v. white, liberal v. conservative political issue.

Actually it was the New York Times who referred to Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic". You actually should begin watching Fox News if you want a broader view of what's going on in the world. MSNBC shouldn't be your only source.
 
So I finally got a chance to actually take a look at the video. I honestly don't understand why so many people are offended or upset. It's actually a huge compliment to the United States. The way I understand the add, it's conveying the message that the country is still a beacon that attracts immigrants from all over the world. What the heck is the wrong with that??

We don't need any pesky immigrants coming over to this country. :roll: I mean, it was good enough for our parents, grandparents and great grandparents, but not anymore! Borders are closed!

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Worth pointing out that all of the founding fathers were British citizens, many had worn the uniform and were subjects of the crown. Van Buren was the first president born a citizen of the United States.

Uh huh ... and ... so ...
 
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