Sangha said:
So you can't prove all the other inane claims you made,
Nope. Every claim I have made so far is common knowledge.
U.S. Population Projections: 2005-2050
The nation’s population will rise to 438 million in 2050, from 296 million in 2005, and fully 82% of the growth during this period will be due to immigrants arriving from 2005 to 2050 and their descendants. (Figure 1)
Of the 117 million people added to the population during this period due to the effect of new immigration, 67 million will be the immigrants themselves, 47 million will be their children and 3 million will be their grandchildren.
Prove it wrong.
so now you're going to make another claim, which BTW is based on the most extreme of their projections.
Prove it.
It sounds like you're really bothered by the fact that someone other than white people are going to benefit.
Nothing bigoted about that.
Straw man arguments that have nothing to do with my actual arguments. Nothing dishonest about that.
And has been, and continues to be, strongly influence by Latino culture. Always has, and always will
Point to that "influence" then. :roll:
In what way have South Carolina, Oregon, Michigan, Tennessee, Kansas, or, Hell,
any state not directly bordering on Mexico or formerly owned by Spain been historically "influenced" by Latino culture?
Go ahead, Sangha. Wow me.
Then stop doing it and recognize that Latino culture is a part of american culture
If it comes from another country, it is
not a part of "American" culture. It never has been, and never will be.
Prove that Mexicans have always been in Texas and California, which was a part of Mexico?
Prove that their cultural influence was in any way remotely equal to or greater than that of the United States' culture which took these regions over.
Then stop spouting nonsense about how Latinos don't speak English. They do
And only 15% of them speak it as their primary language.
NY Times
15 percent of Latino adults said they were “largely English speakers.”
Very few Latinos identify themselves as being primarily "American."
When Labels Don’t Fit: Hispanics and Their Views of Identity
Half (51%) say that most often they use their family’s country of origin to describe their identity. That includes such terms as “Mexican” or “Cuban” or “Dominican,” for example. Just one-quarter (24%) say they use the terms “Hispanic” or “Latino” to most often to describe their identity. And 21% say they use the term “American” most often.
And roughly half do not view themselves as falling within the mainstream of the culture shared by most Americans.
Nearly half (47%) say they are a typical American, while another 47% say they are very different from the typical American. Foreign-born Hispanics are less likely than native-born Hispanics to say they are a typical American—34% versus 66%.
So what if they're learning English? Problems with assimilation can still be shown to exist.
That was all I ever argued in the first place.
No, you've tried to make many points. You can't prove any of them.
Prove it.
And you can't even admit that you were wrong when you claimed that the black and Latino birth rates were similar.
2.1 and 2.4
are similar. :roll:
He's operating under the delusion that there's one american culture
Why, yes! There is a single American culture under the umbrella of which all others can be said to reside, and it speaks English as its primary language, and it accepts the United States as its primary point of origin.
Foreign born Mexican and Latin Americans cultures do not.
I
dare you to find a single instance of my saying anything remotely like that.
Chinese immigrants back then were not isolated from one another. They lived in the same areas and interacted with each other daily.
And? They were 5000 miles from home, and surrounded by a culture which vastly outnumbered them.
By way of contrast, many Latinos' nation of origin in, quite literally "right next door," due to the influence of immigration and population growth, they are rapidly coming to be the majority ethnic groups within many areas where they reside.
It is not.
Cultural Assimilation
Cultural assimilation is the process by which a person or a group's language and, or culture come to resemble those of another group.
If a given people have been living in a certain area for the last hundred years, but still behave more or less exactly the same as before they arrived, they
cannot be said to have assimilated.
Your link does not support your claim that a quarter of all Hispanic population growth is due to immigration. In fact, the link contradicts your claims
It has nothing to do with that particular subject whatsoever, so it says absolutely nothing to "refute" any claim. Nice red herring.
This source, however;
does deal with the subject in question.
The Mexican-American Boom
Overall, the Hispanic population of the United States grew from 35.3 million in 2000 to 50.5 million in 2010, accounting for more than half of the nation’s overall population growth during that decade (Passel, Cohn and Lopez, 2011). Some 58% of this Hispanic population increase came from births rather than the arrival of new immigrants. However, for many non-Mexican-origin Hispanic groups in the U.S., births accounted for less than half of their population growth in the past decade. For example, from 2000 to 2010, births accounted for just 38% of the growth of the Cuban-American population and just 39% of the growth of the population of U.S. Hispanics of Central or South American origin.
42% of Hispanic population increase between 2000 and 2010 was due to immigration.
Immigration is not projected to slow.
U.S. Population Projections: 2005-2050
As such, there is no reason whatsoever to assume that immigration will cease to be a major factor in driving Latino population growth rates.
If you believe otherwise, feel free to prove it.
You lose, Sangha, like you always do.
When it comes to describing their identity, most Hispanics prefer their family’s country of origin over pan-ethnic terms. Half (51%) say that most often they use their family’s country of origin to describe their identity. That includes such terms as “Mexican” or “Cuban” or “Dominican,” for example. Just one-quarter (24%) say they use the terms “Hispanic” or “Latino” to most often to describe their identity. And 21% say they use the term “American” most often.
