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Woody Allen - Pedophile?

Woody Allen

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Andalublue said:
If they're not breaking the law, whose business is it the way someone conducts their private life?
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Not enough evidence does not equal innocence. It only means there isn't enough evidence to bring something to trial. I don't know why you doubt what his own daughter and son say about him. Why would they say such things about their own father? They have nothing to gain, and Dylan has everything to lose by coming out with this. She is an adult now. I believe she is cognitively capable of being able to separate events that occurred in her life.
 
ChrisL said:
The girl says he molested her when she was 7 years old. He MARRIED one of his other adopted daughters. Why is THIS difficult to believe?
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I can understand your outrage but please try to keep the story straight. The other girl was not his adopted daughter nor did he ever marry Farrow.
 
Mason66 said:
I can understand your outrage but please try to keep the story straight. The other girl was not his adopted daughter nor did he ever marry Farrow.
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Okay, well they were together for a LONG time in a relationship. When you are in a LTR with a person, normally you would look at their children like your own, especially when you were there when those children were young. Now, I don't care who says Woody never paid attention to Soon-Yi. One would figure that when a person is molesting a child, they want to keep that type of thing under wraps. What better way than to completely ignore the girl in public? The whole situation is odd, and with these kinds of behaviors and Dylan's accounts and the circumstances, I don't doubt that she is being truthful and he is lying.
 
ChrisL said:
Okay, well they were together for a LONG time in a relationship. When you are in a LTR with a person, normally you would look at their children like your own,\
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That is not true in general, and definitely not true in this specific case.

You have seen the quote from the court decision which stated that Woody didn't even speak to Soon-Yi when she was a child.
 
sangha said:
That is not true in general, and definitely not true in this specific case.

You have seen the quote from the court decision which stated that Woody didn't even speak to Soon-Yi when she was a child.
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That in and of itself is shady as hell IMO.
 
ChrisL said:
That in and of itself is shady as hell IMO.
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There are lots of people who don't like children

Nothing shady about it, and it certainly doesn't make one a pedophile. It makes one the opposite of a pedophile
 
After reading Dylan Farrow's open letter, I'm trying to figure out how he isn't rotting in jail either. Slick, for shame.

Never liked his movies anyway, not sure what people see in them.
 
sangha said:
There are lots of people who don't like children

Nothing shady about it, and it certainly doesn't make one a pedophile. It makes one the opposite of a pedophile
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It's probably an act. It's awfully funny that he supposed "ignored" her, and then .. . well you know the story. With his actions, I certainly don't put him above being a child molester. I believe Dylan.
 
ChrisL said:
Interesting. I also find it interesting that the article that says that child abuse is most likely to happen in single mother households. I really have a hard time believing that MOST cases are false allegations. Do you really believe that?
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The claim is that allegations tend to be false or unsubstantiated in "highly contested custody cases." "Unsubstantiated" means that the allegation could not be verified, not that it is known to be false. I believe that there are many cases of false accusations during divorce and child custody disputes, but I can't say just how many. Anecdotally, I have met a few men, a significant portion of the divorced men I know, who faced such false (according to them) accusations or were threatened with such accusations during their divorces. People often go crazy during divorce, I suspect a large portion of murders happen during divorce also.
 
Hard Truth said:
The claim is that allegations tend to be false or unsubstantiated in "highly contested custody cases." "Unsubstantiated" means that the allegation could not be verified, not that it is known to be false. I believe that there are many cases of false accusations during divorce and child custody disputes, but I can't say just how many. Anecdotally, I have met a few men, a significant portion of the divorced men I know, who faced such false (according to them) accusations or were threatened with such accusations during their divorces. People often go crazy during divorce, I suspect a large portion of murders happen during divorce also.
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"According to them" of course. What man is going to admit to that? Of course they would lie. I'm not denying that there are some people who go crazy and might do things like this, but I don't believe it is common occurrence that a person is SOOO selfish that they would do this to their child and RUIN their child's life.
 
ChrisL said:
It's probably an act. It's awfully funny that he supposed "ignored" her, and then .. . well you know the story. With his actions, I certainly don't put him above being a child molester. I believe Dylan.
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There's not "supposed" about it. Mia herself stated that before she turned out 18, Woody barely spoke to Soon-Yi and then, only because Mia insisted that he spend more time with her.
 
sangha said:
There's not "supposed" about it. Mia herself stated that before she turned out 18, Woody barely spoke to Soon-Yi and then, only because Mia insisted that he spend more time with her.
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Of course he would hide it from the mother. DUH! :roll: His story doesn't make any sense. Dylan's story does. He is a weirdo. He was probably molesting Soon-Yi the whole time.
 
ChrisL said:
I don't believe it is common occurrence that a person is SOOO selfish that they would do this to their child and RUIN their child's life.
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Why not? Do you think Mia is the only scorned woman who has made up charges of child molestation?
 
sangha said:
Why not? Do you think Mia is the only scorned woman who has made up charges of child molestation?
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I said I don't believe it to be a common occurrence.
 
ChrisL said:
Of course he would hide it from the mother. DUH! :roll: His story doesn't make any sense. Dylan's story does. He is a weirdo. He was probably molesting Soon-Yi the whole time.
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There was nothing to hide. All of the children say the same thing - Woody barely spoke to them.
 
sangha said:
There was nothing to hide. All of the children say the same thing - Woody barely spoke to them.
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That's not true. According to the court documents, only some of the children were supposed "ignored," Soon-Yi mainly. There were others that he did pay attention to, like Dylan.
 
ChrisL said:
That's not true. According to the court documents, only some of the children were supposed "ignored," Soon-Yi mainly. There were others that he did pay attention to, like Dylan.
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Nope. Dylan was the only one, and then only because Mia the Sicko was ignoring Dylan.
 
sangha said:
Nope. Dylan was the only one, and then only because Mia the Sicko was ignoring Dylan.
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Whatever. You can believe Woody, but I believe Dylan. Because really, that's what it boils down to, which one you believe.
 
ChrisL said:
Not enough evidence does not equal innocence. It only means there isn't enough evidence to bring something to trial. I don't know why you doubt what his own daughter and son say about him. Why would they say such things about their own father? They have nothing to gain, and Dylan has everything to lose by coming out with this. She is an adult now. I believe she is cognitively capable of being able to separate events that occurred in her life.
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I think you're wearing blinders and refusing to accept the flip side evidence that questions what you want to believe.
 
radcen said:
I think you're wearing blinders and refusing to accept the flip side evidence that questions what you want to believe.
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Besides the fact that there isn't any physical evidence to prove the allegations and the mother is a bit loony, all of the circumstances support Dylan IMO.
 
ChrisL said:
"According to them" of course. What man is going to admit to that? Of course they would lie. I'm not denying that there are some people who go crazy and might do things like this, but I don't believe it is common occurrence that a person is SOOO selfish that they would do this to their child and RUIN their child's life.
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The men I knew seemed to have good healthy relationships with their kids. There were no accusations until after the split. Also, the small amount of research I did (and provided quotes and links) shows that it happens fairly often. We know from the McMartin and other Satanic sex abuse cases of the 1980s that children can be convinced to make false claims. That is why I will give Woody Allen the benefit of the doubt until new facts emerge or he is convicted.
 
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Hard Truth said:
The men I knew seemed to have good healthy relationships with their kids. There were no accusations until after the split. Also, the small amount of research I did (and provided quotes and links) shows that it happens fairly often. We know from the McMartin and other Satanic sex abuse cases of the 1980s that children can be convinced to make false claims. That is why I will give Woody Allen the benefit of the doubt until new facts emerge or he is convicted.
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I just don't know how anyone can make such claims for certain. Of course it isn't going to be obvious a lot of times. That's fine if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt. I happen to believe what Dylan says. She says her mother didn't coach her and that it really happened. She even gives details. She feels shame and embarrassment and guilt, which are all very consistent with an abused child.

Do you think she came out with this again to benefit herself in some way? Don't you think this is painful as hell for her to think about and talk about, especially with the publicity that she KNOWS it is going to receive? She has absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose. I really believe her. The more I find out about the strange behaviors of Allen, the more it makes her story more plausible too.
 
So. 38 pages in and a ****load of new evidence has come to light. Right?

That must be it. No way this is all speculation and emotionality. No way.
 
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