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Do you believe in seat belt laws for consenting adults?

Do you believe in seat belt laws?


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↑ Said by a guy who's driven a car at least once in his life.
Maybe I don't drive a car. Maybe I drive my tricycle around the city picking up hoes at the corners. Without a helmet.
 
That occurred after losing control.
No, that occurred after applying the brakes. Applying the brakes doesn't imply that you lacked control of the vehicles milliseconds beforehand.
 
No, that occurred after applying the brakes.

The driver had lost control, because you would need to lose control to have your body slammed into the steering wheel.
 
The driver had lost control, because you would need to lose control to have your body slammed into the steering wheel.
Because cars don't get hit from behind. Head on collisions every one!
 
The driver had lost control, because you would need to lose control to have your body slammed into the steering wheel.
If I see a deer come out of nowhere, I'm going to apply the brakes hard, maybe as hard as I can. I can still maintain control of the rapidly decelerating vehicle as long as my body is on the seat and my hands are on the steering wheel, and certainly more control than if my chest was against the steering wheel.
 
This question applies to legal adults only, not children:

Do you believe in seat belt laws?

a) Yes. They are nessisary to protect the public for their own good.
b) No. I'm a consenting adult and shouldn't have to wear one if I don't want to.


Discuss...

l wonder what libertarians think about it
:roll:
 
If I see a deer come out of nowhere, I'm going to apply the brakes hard, maybe as hard as I can. I can still maintain control of the rapidly decelerating vehicle as long as my body is on the seat and my hands are on the steering wheel, and certainly more control than if my chest was against the steering wheel.

And if your chest slams into you steering wheel you had lost control.

Because cars don't get hit from behind.

Losing control can be from another car hitting you, sure.
 
I wouldn't say if we could hold people who chose not to wear seat belts 100% financially accountable for anything that happened in the car while they were not wearing them, such that if they got into a traffic accident and were thrown from the car because they were not wearing the belt, any and all medical expenses become out of pocket for them and neither the taxpayers nor insurance companies would be on the line for a dime. Unfortunately, that's not how things work, so yes, seatbelt laws it is.
 
This question applies to legal adults only, not children:

Do you believe in seat belt laws?

a) Yes. They are nessisary to protect the public for their own good.
b) No. I'm a consenting adult and shouldn't have to wear one if I don't want to.


Discuss...

I think I would have to say no. Although I think seat belts are an excellent idea, I don't believe in forcing adults to wear them. It should be a choice.
 
I wouldn't say if we could hold people who chose not to wear seat belts 100% financially accountable for anything that happened in the car while they were not wearing them, such that if they got into a traffic accident and were thrown from the car because they were not wearing the belt, any and all medical expenses become out of pocket for them and neither the taxpayers nor insurance companies would be on the line for a dime.

If only there was some sort of forced health insurance law.
 
If only there was some sort of forced health insurance law.

Why? Costs incurred by one person are spread out to all people purchasing that insurance. Someone doing something stupid costs other people who weren't stupid money.
 
And if your chest slams into you steering wheel you had lost control.
I don't understand you, do you believe seatbelts should be mandatory or not? With your logic, wearing a seatbelt implies that you would still have control because your chest wouldn't be against the steering wheel.
 
Why? Costs incurred by one person are spread out to all people purchasing that insurance. Someone doing something stupid costs other people who weren't stupid money.

Why is there a law mandating just that? No idea.

Cool, then you want to apply this to smokers and fat people too?
 
I don't understand you, do you believe seatbelts should be mandatory or not?

I do not support any state regulation banning or supporting consensual consumer purchases.
 
Yes. For those who claim that not wearing a seatbelt does not jeapardize others on the road, consider attempting to maintain control of ones car after being tossed on top of the dashboard. It's good law on a individual and societal level.

yeah you are much better off after it ruptures your spleen:roll:
 
I remember resisting the original lap belts and the early shoulder/seatbelts. However, they are quite practical now and my car chirps at me if I go over 15 MPH without my belt on. There seems to be sufficient evidence that seat belts are far more likely to help you than hurt you, so I do support these laws. It doesn't cost you anything and the cars all have them already installed so there isn't much case against them.

At first they felt weird. Now, without them, I feel uncomfortable.

So, yes, I support seat belt laws.
 
I wouldn't say if we could hold people who chose not to wear seat belts 100% financially accountable for anything that happened in the car while they were not wearing them, such that if they got into a traffic accident and were thrown from the car because they were not wearing the belt, any and all medical expenses become out of pocket for them and neither the taxpayers nor insurance companies would be on the line for a dime. Unfortunately, that's not how things work, so yes, seatbelt laws it is.

Medical expenses is only part of it.

I used the example of my accident in 2005. It was a major interstate multiple cars flipping and spinning kind of accident. After looking at my chest , neck, abdomen (path of belt) the doctor made comments on how bad it would have been without the belt (catastrophic injury or death). Even if my injuries were totally covered by insurance (either medical policy or through the car insurance)-I am the single mother of a special needs child and the primary caregiver to my elderly mother with multiple medical issues - can you imagine the financial impact if I was catastrophically debilitated or if my mother was forced into long term care? My wearing a seatbelt, not only saved my health insurance company a chunk of change, the government was spared taking on my former responsibilities of mother and caretaker of my elderly mother.

I feel the same way about helmet laws. I don't want precious to get their head crushed, but I really don't want the government caring for a catastrophically brain injured person for 60 years either.
 
Medical expenses is only part of it.

I used the example of my accident in 2005. It was a major interstate multiple cars flipping and spinning kind of accident. After looking at my chest , neck, abdomen (path of belt) the doctor made comments on how bad it would have been without the belt (catastrophic injury or death). Even if my injuries were totally covered by insurance (either medical policy or through the car insurance)-I am the single mother of a special needs child and the primary caregiver to my elderly mother with multiple medical issues - can you imagine the financial impact if I was catastrophically debilitated or if my mother was forced into long term care? My wearing a seatbelt, not only saved my health insurance company a chunk of change, the government was spared taking on my former responsibilities of mother and caretaker of my elderly mother.

I feel the same way about helmet laws. I don't want precious to get their head crushed, but I really don't want the government caring for a catastrophically brain injured person for 60 years either.

Neither do I, which is why I want people who don't want to take responsible actions and make good decisions to be totally responsible for any and all costs associated with their decisions, including all of the things you mentioned. If someone wants to be stupid, by all means, be stupid, but you're on your own.
 
There are so many reasons besides personal safety why seatbelt laws are important. People complain about them because they want to claim it is a loss of freedom issue (although it impedes on personal freedom no more than speeding laws or child restraint laws). But what if you were that person who ran someone over who wasn't wearing their seatbelt and they were ejected from a car? What if it was your wife or husband, son or daughter, mother or father who ran that person over, having to suffer trauma themselves because there was nothing to monetarily encourage that idiot to wear a seatbelt (after all, it was the idiot's free choice to not wear it)? And if you don't think it can't happen, just check out some of the videos about people not wearing their seatbelts and being ejected from their cars after a freeway accident where there car has flipped.
 
I think if people were willing to sign a waiver that hospitals wouldn't be required to get them healthy again if the person is uninsured and is willing to bleed to death over their stupidity and idiotic pride, than yes, they can be exempt from the law.

I shouldn't be required to take care of such people with increased medical fees.
 
I think if people were willing to sign a waiver that hospitals wouldn't be required to get them healthy again if the person is uninsured and is willing to bleed to death over their stupidity and idiotic pride, than yes, they can be exempt from the law.

I shouldn't be required to take care of such people with increased medical fees.

No doctor would agree to this.

I shouldn't be required to take care of any people with increased medical fees.
 
Driving a car without a seat belt is a lot safer than riding a motorcycle.
 
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