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Should Edward Snowden win the Nobel Peace Prize?

Should Edward Snowden win the Nobel Peace Prize

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 42.4%

  • No

    Votes: 32 48.5%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 6 9.1%
  • Total voters
    66
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Should Edward Snowden win the Nobel Peace Prize?

(he has been nominated, apparently)
 
NO. Better than that, HELL NO. We're talking about an individual who committed a crime under US law and who put USServicemen and women in danger because of it.
 
If Obama can, why can't Snowden? ;)
 
YES. Better than that HELL YES. Although the Nobel prize is a joke, he's a billion times more deserving than POS Obama.

He's a true American hero.
 
DA60 said:
Should Edward Snowden win the Nobel Peace Prize?

(he has been nominated, apparently)
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Where's this 'peace', because of his actions?

Paul
 
Tigger said:
NO. Better than that, HELL NO. We're talking about an individual who committed a crime under US law and who put USServicemen and women in danger because of it.
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Another issue very conservative people and social democrats like me can agree on. Hell no on a Nobel peace prize for Snowden, betraying your country like that and hiding in Russia does not make a man who has done something outstanding to promote peace in the world.
 
gunner said:
Where's this 'peace', because of his actions?

Paul
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He opened up that nasty underbelly of espionage/government surveillance/individual's rights violations for the whole world to see...making it harder for governments to fool/con their citizens into taking violent actions against other countries whenever leaders want the masses to do their dirty work.

If that is not good enough for you...I don't much care.
 
Tigger said:
NO. Better than that, HELL NO. We're talking about an individual who committed a crime under US law and who put USServicemen and women in danger because of it.
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Please produce a link that reveals where even one serviceperson was injured or where personal security was increased because of it.
 
I haven't given it enough thought, or have enough respect for the award to give it much, but think that if one is to consider it, they must remove any nationalistic blinders when asking the questions.
 
gunner said:
Where's this 'peace', because of his actions?

Paul
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Snowden has revealed a Intelligence/Corporate alliance that collects business intel worldwide and shares that info with selected private USA Corporations. I'm pretty sure that defines "Facsism," or at least is the tip of the iceberg being revealed. The revelations also resonated on how USA private citizens rights are being violated in a wholesale fashion. The Nobel Prize would be a just and deserved light upon these violations.
 
DaveFagan said:
Please produce a link that reveals where even one serviceperson was injured or where personal security was increased because of it.
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Whether they were injured is not the issue. The UNNECESSARY POTENTIAL for them to be injured due to the revealing of Classified information pertaining to military secrets is sufficient to make it a serious issue in my mind.
 
What "peace" has come into being because of Snowdens actions?
 
Tigger said:
Whether they were injured is not the issue. The UNNECESSARY POTENTIAL for them to be injured due to the revealing of Classified information pertaining to military secrets is sufficient to make it a serious issue in my mind.
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Potential to be injured? Dude that happens every time someone gets up in the morning. Your reaching.
 
Tigger said:
Whether they were injured is not the issue. The UNNECESSARY POTENTIAL for them to be injured due to the revealing of Classified information pertaining to military secrets is sufficient to make it a serious issue in my mind.
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Then show me the link that proves military secrets were/are revealed. There are none. That is the problem. He revealed spying upon private citizens that was and is against the law.
 
DaveFagan said:
Then show me the link that proves military secrets were/are revealed. There are none. That is the problem. He revealed spying upon private citizens that was and is against the law.
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Remember that I don't believe in Rights, Dave. So far as I'm concerned the Government should have the right to do whatever checking on anyone.... You, Me, anyone else they deem necessary to ensure the security of this nation.
 
I voted no, not because what he did doesn't deserve recognition, but because the Nobel Peace Prize has become a joke considering some of the people awarded the prize in recent history.

Perhaps the Congressional Gold Medal would be far more suitable - it is, after all, awarded to citizens "who have performed an achievement that has an impact on American history and culture that is likely to be recognized as a major achievement in the recipient's field long after the achievement." I can't think of anything quite as impactful as the revelations Snowden has disclosed this past year and they will have reverberations for years to come.

If nothing else, for waking Congress to the actions of the government they are sworn to oversee, he should be so recognized.
 
reinoe said:
Potential to be injured? Dude that happens every time someone gets up in the morning. Your reaching.
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UNNECESSARY Potential to be injured. Please actually pay attention to what I said. Obvously US Military members always take a chance with their safety. What Snowden did was to provide material that could INCREASE the chance of those servicemembers being injured and that I take significant umprage at.
 
I voted 'no' too, because there are better candidates out there.

I am very grateful to Snowden for revealing the government's actions. As Americans (and I'll throw in the Germans too), we can all think of similar situations of which the NSA spying is reminiscent.
 
Tigger said:
UNNECESSARY Potential to be injured. Please actually pay attention to what I said. Obvously US Military members always take a chance with their safety. What Snowden did was to provide material that could INCREASE the chance of those servicemembers being injured and that I take significant umprage at.
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US security IS at stake here. Do you think that the Germans will ever be keen on trading with us or allying with us in the near future, with Angela Merkel knowing that the US is illegally wiretapping her personal phone? It's already hacked them off and undermined several tradining treaties. How about the ramifications that are now occuring in the UK, or South Korea or Australia?

If the government needed to wiretap and/or spy on potential targets or security risks, they have all the power to do so. This meta spying, however, goes far beyond that requirement and is now undermining both the trust that Americans have in their government; and the trust of our allies. With this egregious spying, we're alienating anyone and everyone that would be a potential help should we be in another 9/11 situation.

It's destroying all of our personal safeties and securities on the whims of a bunch of nosy bureacrats.
 
brothern said:
US security IS at stake here. Do you think that the Germans will ever be keen on trading with us or allying with us in the near future, with Angela Merkel knowing that the US is illegally wiretapping her personal phone? It's already hacked them off and undermined several tradining treaties. How about the ramifications that are now occuring in the UK, or South Korea or Australia?

If the government needed to wiretap and/or spy on potential targets or security risks, they have all the power to do so. This meta spying, however, goes far beyond that requirement and is now undermining both the trust that Americans have in their government; and the trust of our allies. With this egregious spying, we're alienating anyone and everyone that would be a potential help should we be in another 9/11 situation.

It's destroying our personal safety and security at the whims of a bunch of nosy bureacrats.
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Why did you use the word "illegally" here?
 
Tigger said:
Remember that I don't believe in Rights, Dave. So far as I'm concerned the Government should have the right to do whatever checking on anyone.... You, Me, anyone else they deem necessary to ensure the security of this nation.
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Ummm yes you do believe in rights, just not for others. You believe in the Right to keep and bear arms dontcha? Free speech and the right to not associate with any female working instead of mopping the kitchen floor.

You claim to act so much differently than what you just posted. You certainly believe in a right to privacy.

If not then you are little better than a slave of the State, and slaves don't get firearms...
 
brothern said:
US security IS at stake here. Do you think that the Germans will ever be keen on trading with us or allying with us in the near future, with Angela Merkel knowing that the US is illegally wiretapping her personal phone? How about the UK, or South Korea or Australia?
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You make a mistake if you think I WANT the US dealing with these other countries to begin with. These countries kicking us out and refusing to do business with us would be GREAT so far as I'm concerned.

brothern said:
If the government needed to wiretap and/or spy on potential targets or security risks, they have all the power to do so. This meta spying, however, goes far beyond that requirement and is now undermining both the trust that Americans have in their government; and the trust of our allies. With this egregious spying, we're alienating anyone and everyone that would be a potential help should we be in another 9/11 situation.
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No smart American should have any more faith in this Government than it does in them. Again, I don't believe in allies. This country needs to burn to the ground and be rebuilt from the ashes, and this simply furthers the potential for that.
 
Mason66 said:
Why did you use the word "illegally" here?
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Because you don't listen to the personal phone conversations of the Chancellor of one of your biggest allies; who not only happens to be leading our 5th largest trading partner, but is literally [from non-Greek persepective] carrying the EU on her back right now. Their legislature and the EU is fully capable of issuing harsh sanctions against the US.
 
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