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Which economic system is the best to you?

Which system is best?

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NoC_T said:
Because Capitalism's all about human need. Sho nuff.

The starving millions say cheers for the safety net. :thumbs:
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As communism declined over the last 40 years, and globalism has been on the march with more and more countries transitioning to mixed economies with less state intervention, the worldwide abject poverty rate has declined precipitously even with all the population growth we have experienced:

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NoC_T said:
I can't do this. Not with you. I just can't. I'm not that strong.

Sorry, Scatt. No offence, luv.
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Just when you thought there were no new kinds of ridiculous...
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
As communism declined over the last 40 years, and globalism has been on the march with more and more countries transitioning to mixed economies with less state intervention, the worldwide abject poverty rate has declined precipitously even with all the population growth we have experienced:

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How could Communism decline having never existed?
 
Grand Mal said:
Just when you thought there were no new kinds of ridiculous...
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I've come to believe that, while nothing will ever surprise me, there'll be no shortage of stillborn attempts to spite me.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
So your going to say Somalia is a paradise?
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Somalia is a failed communist state (redundant, I know), with more than one state entity that is filled with state intervention.
 
NoC_T said:
How could Communism decline having never existed?
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Perhaps the reason why it has never fully existed is because its a utopian idea that is impossible to actually implement on a national scale.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Perhaps the reason why it has never fully existed is because its a utopian idea that is impossible to actually implement on a national scale.
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No, not 'fully. At all. Ever. We had Socialism for the briefest flicker of time. That's as close as anyone ever got.

It comes down, as per usual, to throwing around definitions with no knowledge of the subject matter.
 
cpgrad08 said:
FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate / UCLA Newsroom

Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian: How Government Prolonged the Depression - WSJ.com
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Yes a couple of right wing economists thinks he prolonged the depression, yet hardly anyone alive a time feels the same way. He was by far, by far, the most beloved president in U.S. history. People thought of him as practically one notch below Jesus. The man was even Reagan's hero at the time. When he came to office the hands off approach had failed so miserably that there were literally food riots.

The right-wing New Deal conniption fit - Salon.com
 
NoC_T said:
No, not 'fully. At all. Ever. We had Socialism for the briefest flicker of time. That's as close as anyone ever got.

It comes down, as per usual, to throwing around definitions with no knowledge of the subject matter.
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Take it easy on the Scotsmen.

SouthernDemocrat said:
Yes a couple of right wing economists thinks he prolonged the depression, yet hardly anyone alive a time feels the same way. He was by far, by far, the most beloved president in U.S. history. People thought of him as practically one notch below Jesus. The man was even Reagan's hero at the time. When he came to office the hands off approach had failed so miserably that there were literally food riots.

The right-wing New Deal conniption fit - Salon.com
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Hoover had a hands on approach, which is partially why it started. And Roosevelt literally locked up Japanese Americans, so I can see why democrats support him. Only Lincoln was a worse president, which is saying a lot because Lincoln killed 600,000 Americans and locked up tens of thousands more without due process.

Salon is not a citable source.
 
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NoC_T said:
No, not 'fully. At all. Ever. We had Socialism for the briefest flicker of time. That's as close as anyone ever got.

It comes down, as per usual, to throwing around definitions with no knowledge of the subject matter.
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I know what socialism is and what communism is. I think the problem with communism is that it goes against human instinctual behavior so much that it just doesn't work unless its compelled by a totalitarian state.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Yes a couple of right wing economists thinks he prolonged the depression, yet hardly anyone alive a time feels the same way. He was by far, by far, the most beloved president in U.S. history. People thought of him as practically one notch below Jesus. The man was even Reagan's hero at the time. When he came to office the hands off approach had failed so miserably that there were literally food riots.

The right-wing New Deal conniption fit - Salon.com
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Just shows how much the wool had been pulled over the American people eyes.
 
cpgrad08 said:
Just shows how much the wool had been pulled over the American people eyes.
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Dude, who has the wool pulled over their eyes? Some revisionist ideologues today, or the people that actually lived through the Great Depression themselves and elected and then reelected FDR 4 times? I mean come on, they lived though it, they saw the New Deal in action, they loved FDR. Ask anyone, anyone that is still alive today that lived through the Depression what they thought of the New Deal and FDR.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Dude, who has the wool pulled over their eyes? Some revisionist ideologues today, or the people that actually lived through the Great Depression themselves and elected and then reelected FDR 4 times? I mean come on, they lived though it, they saw the New Deal in action, they loved FDR. Ask anyone, anyone that is still alive today that lived through the Depression what they thought of the New Deal and FDR.
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Can I ask the locked up Japanese Americans?
 
scatt said:
Take it easy on the Scotsmen.
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That was never an option. As luck would have it, they're more concerned with your sponsorship.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I know what socialism is and what communism is.
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Not since you believe they could so much as be attempted 'nationally', to the exclusion of the global necessity that defines them.

I think the problem with communism is that it goes against human instinctual behavior so much that it just doesn't work unless its compelled by a totalitarian state.
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I think the problem with internet forums is, there's no obligation to avail oneself of education in advance.
 
scatt said:
Can I ask the locked up Japanese Americans?
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The vast majority of Japanese Americans vote Democrat today, so go ahead and ask them. The fact is, FDR is by far the most beloved president in U.S. history. Lincoln and FDR had more to deal with than any other presidents in U.S. history by a wide margin. Every other presidency has been a cakewalk compared to what those two men had to contend with, and aside with a few total nutjobs might claim, the are widely regarded by the public and by historians as two of the greatest presidents in U.S. history.
 
NoC_T said:
Not since you believe they could so much as be attempted 'nationally', to the exclusion of the global necessity that defines them.
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Communism requires a state, or a lot of capital to set it up.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
The vast majority of Japanese Americans vote Democrat today, so go ahead and ask them. The fact is, FDR is by far the most beloved president in U.S. history. Lincoln and FDR had more to deal with than any other presidents in U.S. history by a wide margin. Every other presidency has been a cakewalk compared to what those two men had to contend with, and aside with a few total nutjobs might claim, the are widely regarded by the public and by historians as two of the greatest presidents in U.S. history.
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Ah yes, that wonderful sense of (false) security you get from being in the consensus.
 
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