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Should 13 y.o. boys be allowed to consent to hetero-sex w/adult women?

Should the age of consent be lowered to 13 y.o. when a boy wants sex with a woman?

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Goshin said:
No harm? Seriously? Dude, read a bit.
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You described a lack of understanding of what they were getting themselves into, not a harm that was inflicted on them against their will. Your argument is just social agenda nonsense.
 
Goshin said:
I dunno, I kept my son from having sex in his early teens, so I didn't worry about it. :)


(and have been criticized by some for that in this thread... )
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I think that is extremely smart.

it is hard enough to concentrate on studying in school without all the sex stuff thrown into that.

Unfortunately not enough girls parents teach them that.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I see people using this thread to ask for acceptance of childish irresponsibility...
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I can see where you'd think that, but the problem is... teens are having sex whether it's childish or not, so the question seems to be intended to be whether we should allow it to be legal regardless. The idea that because we know that teens aren't ready to be full adults doesn't seem to address the idea that sexually they are most likely going to participate before they will be legally adult enough to be considered able to decide. It's such a weird thing to totally ignore reality of puberty and pretend it's not going to happen because it shouldn't happen.
 
Mason66 said:
It is also that the girl brings home the baby and the boy doesn't.
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Anyone remember that case back in the mid 90's where that teacher screwed her then 12-year-old student, had his baby then went to prison for like 10 years??? well when she got out the kid (she raped/molested) was in his 20's and now they have a family...

Pretty twisted stuff right there.... Especially when your son is 12 years younger than you are lol. Imagine being 33 and your son is 21 lol...."son go out and get daddy some beer lol"
 
Mr.Nick said:
Anyone remember that case back in the mid 90's where that teacher screwed her then 12-year-old student, had his baby then went to prison for like 10 years??? well when she got out the kid (she raped/molested) was in his 20's and now they have a family...

Pretty twisted stuff right there.... Especially when your son is 12 years younger than you are lol. Imagine being 33 and your son is 21 lol...."son go out and get daddy some beer lol"
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Yes I remember the case.

The kid waited for her to get out then got back with her. There must have been something strong between them before for him to wait all that time and then make a life with her.
 
Henrin said:
You described a lack of understanding of what they were getting themselves into, not a harm that was inflicted on them against their will. Your argument is just social agenda nonsense.
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I don't have time for this, really. Here's a short list of consequences they are ill-prepared for:


STDs
Pregnancy
Intimacy issues from too-early sexuality (there are studies, look em up)
Imbalance of power issues from sexual relationship with an adult
and so on...
 
Summerwind said:
I can see where you'd think that, but the problem is... teens are having sex whether it's childish or not, so the question seems to be intended to be whether we should allow it to be legal regardless. The idea that because we know that teens aren't ready to be full adults doesn't seem to address the idea that sexually they are most likely going to participate before they will be legally adult enough to be considered able to decide. It's such a weird thing to totally ignore reality of puberty and pretend it's not going to happen because it shouldn't happen.
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Make it their right to choose, and you will make all the pedophiles in the world happy. You will be telling them it's OK to get knocked up and drain more revenue.

Should I go on?

What about the extra numbers of 13 year old fathers that will be paying child support for twice as ling as they are already old? Do you really want those numbers to increase?
 
Goshin said:
I don't have time for this, really. Here's a short list of consequences they are ill-prepared for:


STDs
Pregnancy
Intimacy issues from too-early sexuality (there are studies, look em up)
Imbalance of power issues from sexual relationship with an adult
and so on...
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And none of those were forced on them. Your argument is still pretty poor to warrant government action.
 
Henrin said:
And none of those were forced on them. Your argument is still pretty poor to warrant government action.
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How about we eliminate government assistance to those who make the poor choices that makes them needy, then I'm OK with letting people do as they want, because it doesn't affect me any longer.
 
No, I would make the age of consent for sex with an adult 16, with provisions taking the age gap into consideration.
 
Hard Truth said:
No, I would make the age of consent for sex with an adult 16, with provisions taking the age gap into consideration.
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I think that would be bare minimum age, but I'm more inclined to say 17 just because they are close enough to age of majority and they would be most likely to be meeting younger adults(18-20).
 
Mason66 said:
Yes I remember the case.

The kid waited for her to get out then got back with her. There must have been something strong between them before for him to wait all that time and then make a life with her.
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As weird and twisted as it may be it all worked out for the best I suppose. Obviously the "kid" is now an adult so.... They have every right to be together now. At least he's a father and a husband and took responsibility for his actions and his kid(s).
 
Hard Truth said:
No, I would make the age of consent for sex with an adult 16, with provisions taking the age gap into consideration.
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I agree.... I think there should be a 5 year difference rule IMO after the age of 14 or 15....

Is it really a crime if an 18 year old kid screws a 14 or 15 year old girl????

I don't think so. They're both kids really.

I wouldn't recommend it but it happens , and it upsets me when an 18 or 19 year old kid goes to jail and is put on a sex offender list for having consensual sex with his 15 year old girlfriend... But it happens all too often. Of course then the kid is pegged as a sex offender (or pedophile) his entire life when all he did was screw his girlfriend that was a few years younger than he was.... Of course it works the other way and it happens to girls too but they rarely get the same treatment by the courts as guys in cases like this.
 
No... this is stupid and people who voted yes should take a deep look at themselves.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I think that would be bare minimum age, but I'm more inclined to say 17 just because they are close enough to age of majority and they would be most likely to be meeting younger adults(18-20).
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17 is the age of consent in Illinois...

Ages of consent are a state issue. I think in some states it's as young as 14 or 15.

IMO, I think all this is stupid. If you're old enough to have children then you're old enough to have sex (or at least be in a monogamous relationship where sex is involved).... In most cultures it's common to be a mother and married by 16.

Now, I'm not saying I advocate it, I'm just saying its natural and certainly an anthropological fact. Of course we have our own culture, and besides I think most individuals like to stick with their own age group when it comes to relationships and sex (within 5-7) years difference, especially when you're in your 30's or 40's+...
 
Mr.Nick said:
17 is the age of consent in Illinois...

Ages of consent are a state issue. I think in some states it's as young as 14 or 15.

IMO, I think all this is stupid. If you're old enough to have children then you're old enough to have sex (or at least be in a monogamous relationship where sex is involved).... In most cultures it's common to be a mother and married by 16.

Now, I'm not saying I advocate it, I'm just saying its natural and certainly an anthropological fact. Of course we have our own culture, and besides I think most individuals like to stick with their own age group when it comes to relationships and sex (within 5-7) years difference, especially when you're in your 30's or 40's+...
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It's 17 here as well, with a "two year rule" to cover borderline ages and account for older/younger school romances and the like. I realize that other cultures do things differently but I have read enough on this to agree with the psychologists who say that a significant age difference between an adult and a teenager is just not a good mix, can be detrimental to the teenager in the long run.
 
LaMidRighter said:
It's 17 here as well, with a "two year rule" to cover borderline ages and account for older/younger school romances and the like. I realize that other cultures do things differently but I have read enough on this to agree with the psychologists who say that a significant age difference between an adult and a teenager is just not a good mix, can be detrimental to the teenager in the long run.
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I agree with this..... Usually in other cultures (besides Islam) and I'm speaking of indigenous cultures in South America, Africa, Australia, or even arranged marriages in India etc the husband and wife albeit 15 or 16 are usually the same age....

But I absolutely agree that a large age gap in ANY relationship will be a problem, if you're 17 or 35 if you're dating someone that is say 10 years older there will be problems (or even 10 years younger when you're 35)...

Then again mental maturity is an issue too. You can be 35 and act like you're 17 and you can be 17 and act like you're 35.
 
Summerwind said:
I like your post until I get to the last sentence. Please explain how a 13yo can consent to sex with another teen, but not with an adult. That part is just stupid, imo.
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An adult has much more power and can manipulate and control a 13 year old much more than another teen can. But the age gap should be considered also. An 18 year old with a 15 year old isn't nearly as problematic as a thirty year old with a fifteen year old.
 
If by 'woman' you mean adult female...then 'no'.

The woman can keep her panties on for a few years until he is of age.

What a weird poll question.
 
Paschendale said:
Well, too bad. We're not talking about making different laws drastically curtailing behavior for one sex. We're talking about protecting children. You specifically chose to form the OP as you to play on the social stigmas, that he is victorious for conquering her, while if their sexes were swapped, she would exploited. That is the exact opposite of what I meant by "harsher". There is just as much room for abuse by an adult regardless of the gender pairings involved. But girls face harsher physical consequences. They should NOT face harsher social ones. All children need to be protected from sexual exploitation by adults.
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And even you fall into supporting social stigma's by unnecessarily bringing up the fact that girls face harsher physical and social consequences in some ways, despite the fact that it has nothing to do with the thread.
 
lizzie said:
What I can't understand is why any adult woman would be interested in having sex with a 13 year-old boy.
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I know. Blech. Pathetic. What a loser. What a pedophile.
 
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