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13 years old should be the legal age of an adult?

Should 13 be the legal age of full adult/rights & do you think its equal to 18yrs old


  • Total voters
    65
He has avoided answering my post where I pointed out (based on other people's comments) that this would make 13 yr olds much more vulnerable to sexual abuse and predators.

sorry don't see it.

What part of this didnt you "see?"

Lursa said:
AJ that poll is great. It brings up alot more angles than just this discussion...but it kind of comes full circle.

Many people pointed out that it would make 13 yr olds much more vulnerable to sexual abuse and predators...they'd be 'legal.'

So we'd end up with MORE pregnant 13 yr olds...by choice and by force. How could that possibly be good? For them or for society?
 
1.)logic is what makes sense making it logical.
2.)As someone has said in other threads, definitions change........
3.) However my feelings will always be there

1.) no its factually not as the definition already proves, sorry ignoring facts and posting lies wont work
2.) subjective definitions change, the definition of logic is not going to change. AGain its things like this that make it impossible to believe your are 34.
3.) your feelings are meaningless to facts

like i said earlier

there are rapist, murders, child molesters etc that all think and feel thier actions were logical, they were wrong
 
actually its not, PARTS of it maybe but its a VERY relevant idea considering your opinion

do you think its acceptable for a 30 year old to have sex with a 13yr old?

From his posts, he firmly believes that the 13 old is capable of having the good judgement to do so.
 
From his posts, he firmly believes that the 13 old is capable of having the good judgement to do so.

maybe, maybe not this will be his chance to explain
 
@_@

We had a health class in high school (all older than 13) where a semester-long assignment involved having to create a budget for and listing all the responsibilities for getting married and having a kid...and working it all out under that budget....job, finishing education, about how much you'd be making in 10 yrs if you finished an education vs. went right to work, had a job, a trade, or a profession (all very different), daycare, entertainment, food, clothes, medicine, rent, etc etc etc. We all got guidance (which you seem to say is all 13 yr olds need) and we all STILL gone blown out of the water. No one could make the numbers work in any reasonable fashion, unless they lived with their parents. Jobs out of high school pay little. Jobs for 13 yr olds? Arent even legal, lol.

And you know what? Everybody decided it was a really bad idea. Funny...we were smart and decided to still BE kids WHILE we were kids. Huh...at least high schoolers have a little 'judgement' when confronted with cold hard facts.

..........................

I don't think you are understanding where i am coming from, or what I am saying. I know how society treats our kids today and hinders them.

You completely didnt understand my post above, btw. It's not about how society treats our kids...it's about how our 'kids today' could make a marriage work at 13...basic numbers, and facts, and **reality**. It was about learning BEFORE making mistakes. It wasnt about society making them do anything or treating them in some way.
 
maybe, maybe not this will be his chance to explain

How many more pages before he provides anything more than, "this is how I feel"?
 
He has avoided answering my post where I pointed out (based on other people's comments) that this would make 13 yr olds much more vulnerable to sexual abuse and predators.

Of course he's avoiding talking about it, it's the entire reason he supports it.

The way the poll turned out, it looks like one pedo vs the world.

irrelavant post and ignored

You're arguing passionately that 13 year olds should be able to have sex with adults but we're supposed to assume that passion is coming from a place of logic and not your loins?
 
Of course he's avoiding talking about it, it's the entire reason he supports it.

The way the poll turned out, it looks like one pedo vs the world.



You're arguing passionately that 13 year olds should be able to have sex with adults but we're supposed to assume that passion is coming from a place of logic and not your loins?
I don't think with my loins, however nice try at trying to turn me into something I'm not. Doesn't matter if I think it's acceptable, or not. I said there is no reason a 13 year old can't do what an 18 year old can. Lots more to it then sex.
 
actually its not, PARTS of it maybe but its a VERY relevant theory/question considering your opinion

do you think its acceptable for a 30 year old to have sex with a 13yr old?
I personally do not. I also don't think it's acceptable for a 25 and a 45 year old. It's not about what I think is acceptable, it's about what I think the capabilities are.
 
I don't think with my loins, however nice try at trying to turn me into something I'm not. Doesn't matter if I think it's acceptable, or not. I said there is no reason a 13 year old can't do what an 18 year old can. Lots more to it then sex.

No reason at all? Not even one...such has having five more years mental, emotional, and physiological maturity?
 
No reason at all? Not even one...such has having five more years mental, emotional, and physiological maturity?

So it takes full maturity and mental capacity to be considered an adult?
 
maybe, maybe not this will be his chance to explain

I didnt say society doesnt have anything to do with it...I said that it doesnt *change* physiology and brain development...and the proof is everywhere that adolescents do not have well-developed judgement or impulse control. Too bad you didnt even bother to read the links but that's common in people that dont want to see anything that disproves their 'beliefs.' It's also a very 'adolescent' way of dealing with things you dont like...ignoring them. (Still not on board with 34)
No I tried going to the links and my PC wont bring them up. Assuming why i'm here and why I'm doing things is all fine and dandy with me. The fact nobody can understand why I think that way and come to some bogus conclusion that it's because I want to have sex with 13 year old is ridiculous at best.
I do look at both sides of every issue. I will still argue my side of the story.
 
maybe, maybe not this will be his chance to explain

How many more pages before he provides anything more than, "this is how I feel"?
Work In Progress - Adolescent Brains Are A Work In Progress | Inside The Teenage Brain | FRONTLINE | PBS
I found this that seems to argue both ways, doesn't really give a clear cut age though
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2009/10/teen-maturity.aspx
this one might even be suggesting older then 25.
 
It's a pumpkin pie, not a pancake.

It proves:

a) his birthday is on Thanksgiving

b) you are drunk posting and cant recognize that pancakes dont have crusts.

Awesome! I was thinking maybe Halloween because it kind of looks like he has a costume on, but that is unmistakably a pumpkin pie. :lol:
 
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