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What is your view on climate change?

What is your view on climate change?

  • It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.

    Votes: 11 23.9%

  • It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.

    Votes: 23 50.0%

  • It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.

    Votes: 5 10.9%

  • It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I do not know/other.

    Votes: 4 8.7%
  • Total voters
    46
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What is your view on climate change?

It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.
It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.
It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.
It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.
Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.
I do not know/other.





I believe climate change occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.It is something that has been going on for billions of years on this planet and it is stupid to use a hundred or two hundred years of temperatures changes to claim we are having man made induced climate change. If the billions of years of climate change was a bucket of water the last 100-200 years would be microscopic drop of water.
 
The climate of course changes naturally, due to atmospheric conditions, the activity of the sun, etc

I also expect that it can be changed due to human activity, releasing what was otherwise sequestered carbon, is most likely going to have an effect, I would think not as large as natural changes will
 
I'm pretty sure that 7 billion humans eating, ****ting, farting, driving, smoking, manufacturing, cutting down trees etc. etc. has a substantial effect on climatic conditions.

Other than mass executions (or less forceful population reductions), I don't see any practical solutions. I do think filtration, regrowth and other methods can help slow or alleviate things - somewhat...
 
specklebang said:
I'm pretty sure that 7 billion humans eating, ****ting, farting, driving, smoking, manufacturing, cutting down trees etc. etc. has a substantial effect on climatic conditions.

Other than mass executions (or less forceful population reductions), I don't see any practical solutions. I do think filtration, regrowth and other methods can help slow or alleviate things - somewhat...
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You read "Inferno" by Dan Brown?
 
jamesrage said:
What is your view on climate change?

It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.
It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.
It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.
It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.
Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.
I do not know/other.





I believe climate change occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.It is something that has been going on for billions of years on this planet and it is stupid to use a hundred or two hundred years of temperatures changes to claim we are having man made induced climate change. If the billions of years of climate change was a bucket of water the last 100-200 years would be microscopic drop of water.
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The atmosphere of the planet Earth is only 4 miles or less high, for the purposes of human and other organisms. Calculate what the volume and weight of that atmosphere and then consider if 6 or 7 billion polluters on the planet could generate a cause and effect relationship on that atmosphere. There really isn't too much atmosphere to work with. In a fantasy world, we could pretend that we aren't polluting or you can look at the smoker next to you or hold your hand over the end of the tailpipe of a running auto or truck if you want a reality check. Then there is water. Maybe a trip to the huge Ocean "dead zones" could cause a synaptic trigger to initiate a thought that perhaps, collectively, we are rapidly screwing up this planet. I know we personally will be dead before the effects are dramatic, and that would just emphasize our collective lack of responsibility. Like it or lump it, we need to adjust our lifestyles to nearly Amish sensibilities. We must establish a natural relationship with the Planet.
 
Can't happen quick enough for me. Bring it on.
 
There are pros and cons to "climate change," not really interested in state claims of how they can stop it.
 
It occurs, man is probably changing something, and politicians are using it to acquire more power.
 
jamesrage said:
What is your view on climate change?

It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.
It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.
It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.
It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.
Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.
I do not know/other.





I believe climate change occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.It is something that has been going on for billions of years on this planet and it is stupid to use a hundred or two hundred years of temperatures changes to claim we are having man made induced climate change. If the billions of years of climate change was a bucket of water the last 100-200 years would be microscopic drop of water.
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Climate changes naturally of course, and there have been major shifts in the past. I think it's also at least logical that we could alter the climate by changing the composition of the atmosphere. I think that we simply don't have enough information, or a good enough grasp of an incredibly complex system to definitively state that the current warming trend is or is not man-made. I also think though, that even without definitive proof that we're causing the warming trend, it's a good idea to encourage the development of alternative, non-carbon-based energy sources.
 
The principal difference between those scientists who answer "yes" to the question "Is human activity having an effect on climate?" and those who think that this answer is the same as "We are all doomed" is a lack of intelligence.

Obviously human activity is having an effect on climate. The climate in a large city is different to that outside urban areas. It's less cold in winter.

Is this a massive problem? Is it a massive impact?
 
Is this a massive problem? Is it a massive impact?
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Yes it is, if you are willing to put down your greed long enough to take an honest look.
The nature of the atmosphere, that is necessarily to life, can easily be demonstrated to be a finely tuned delicate balance of gasses, events and phenomena.Our disregard for this balance and the pollutants we callously toss into the biosphere are getting the mechanisms of the atmosphere to change and shift in ways that have unintended and devastating consequences for life as we have come to know it.
The efforts of a very few, to curb these consequences, are being thwarted by those who benefit financially by the casual nature of our polluting proclivities.
These facts can be easily realized by any observer with an unbiased eye and common sense. To deny that these are the facts requires a willful ignorance and monetarily induced stupidity.
If we are not willing to curb our polluting habits we need to accept that life, as we have come to know it, will be very different and the earth will no longer be a very pleasant place to live.
 
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About that consensus on global warming: 9136 agree, 1 disagrees. | The Curious Wavefunction, Scientific American Blog Network

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Is this a massive problem? Is it a massive impact?
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Buck Ewer said:
Yes it is, if you are willing to put down your greed long enough to take an honest look.
The nature of the atmosphere, that is necessarily to life, can easily be demonstrated to be a finely tuned delicate balance of gasses, events and phenomena.Our disregard for this balance and the pollutants we callously toss into the biosphere are getting the mechanisms of the atmosphere to change and shift in ways that have unintended and devastating consequences for life as we have come to know it.
The efforts of a very few, to curb these consequences, are being thwarted by those who benefit financially by the casual nature of our polluting proclivities.
These facts can be easily realized by any observer with an unbiased eye and common sense. To deny that these are the facts requires a willful ignorance and monetarily induced stupidity.
If we are not willing to curb our polluting habits we need to accept that life, as we have come to know it, will be very different and the earth will no longer be a very pleasant place to live.
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Oh... right.

Then please tell me what this problem will be. I have done a lot of research around and about and cannot find any peer reviewed predictions which scare me at all. The IPCC@s numbers certainly done cause me to lose sleep.
 
tacomancer said:
About that consensus on global warming: 9136 agree, 1 disagrees. | The Curious Wavefunction, Scientific American Blog Network

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Just more evidence of a conspiracy….

Don't you realize that when it comes to science, Joe Blow on the internet forum knows a lot more about climate science than actual climate scientists with as much as a decade of education, and far longer than that working and conducting research in the field. It doesn't matter if they are a lawyer, mechanic, preacher, accountant, or dishwasher, all they know is that they are right, and those stupid climate scientists are wrong.
 
jamesrage said:
What is your view on climate change?
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It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.
It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.
It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.
It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.
Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.
I do not know/other.





I believe climate change occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.It is something that has been going on for billions of years on this planet and it is stupid to use a hundred or two hundred years of temperatures changes to claim we are having man made induced climate change. If the billions of years of climate change was a bucket of water the last 100-200 years would be microscopic drop of water.
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My view on 'Climate Change' and on change in general is that it is going to happen whether anyone wants it or not.

Don't think so?- Wait and see.

Just talking about this is a waste of time.

Those who don't prepare for it will suffer the consequences.




Anyone who thinks that the human race has no control over, and can't affect what happens on this planet is out of touch with reality.




"Better days are coming." ~But not for those who are out of touch and running out of time like some people in the GOP.
 
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specklebang said:
I'm pretty sure that 7 billion humans eating, ****ting, farting, driving, smoking, manufacturing, cutting down trees etc. etc. has a substantial effect on climatic conditions.

Other than mass executions (or less forceful population reductions), I don't see any practical solutions. I do think filtration, regrowth and other methods can help slow or alleviate things - somewhat...
Click to expand...

Before the 7 billion humans doing all that nasty stuff, what caused all the natural climate changes? Like, going through the ice ages and warming periods were pretty drastic.
 
This poll is flawed. One of the responses should be:

If of course can occur naturally, however the current warming and projected warming is largely anthropogenic.

The poll as it is would be like asking do forest fires occur naturally, or are all of the set by humans. Leaving out of course that some occur naturally, all did in the distant past, but some today are caused by humans.
 
Born Free said:
Before the 7 billion humans doing all that nasty stuff, what caused all the natural climate changes? Like, going through the ice ages and warming periods were pretty drastic.
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Mostly Milankovitch cycles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and various positive feedbacks resulting from that initial catalyst. However, volcanic activity also played a roll as well as over the longer term to the movement of the continents.
 
jamesrage said:
What is your view on climate change?

It occurs naturally regardless of how severe or minute those changes are.
It occurs naturally with small and severe changes, some of it is anthropogenic.
It occurs naturally with small changes,but severe changes are anthropogenic.
It does not occur naturally, any changes we have now are anthropogenic.
Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.
I do not know/other.





I believe climate change occurs naturally regardless of how minute or severe those changes are.It is something that has been going on for billions of years on this planet and it is stupid to use a hundred or two hundred years of temperatures changes to claim we are having man made induced climate change.
If the billions of years of climate change was a bucket of water the last 100-200 years would be microscopic drop of water.
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Come back and tell us all about it after your seaside home is destroyed by climate change.

What causes climate change doesn't really matter.

What does matter is that those who don't prepare for it will suffer the consequences.

Wait and see. :lamo

I have little pity for those who, out of wrong-headed stupidity don't prepare and let mother nature destroy what they have built.
 
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shrubnose said:
Come back and tell us all about it after your seaside home is destroyed by climate change.

What causes climate change doesn't really matter.

What does matter is that those who don't prepare for it will suffer the consequences.

Wait and see. :lamo

I have little pity for those who, out of wrong-headed stupidity don't prepare and let mother nature destroy what they have built.
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How big a sea level rise are you expecting?
 
DaveFagan said:
The atmosphere of the planet Earth is only 4 miles or less high, for the purposes of human and other organisms. Calculate what the volume and weight of that atmosphere and then consider if 6 or 7 billion polluters on the planet could generate a cause and effect relationship on that atmosphere. There really isn't too much atmosphere to work with. In a fantasy world, we could pretend that we aren't polluting or you can look at the smoker next to you or hold your hand over the end of the tailpipe of a running auto or truck if you want a reality check. Then there is water. Maybe a trip to the huge Ocean "dead zones" could cause a synaptic trigger to initiate a thought that perhaps, collectively, we are rapidly screwing up this planet. I know we personally will be dead before the effects are dramatic, and that would just emphasize our collective lack of responsibility. Like it or lump it, we need to adjust our lifestyles to nearly Amish sensibilities.
We must establish a natural relationship with the Planet.
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Some people are opposed to this idea and they are entitled to their opinion.

But if the human race doesn't start treating this planet a little better it really needs to start looking for another one.
 
shrubnose said:
Who cares what I, you or anyone else expects?

What matters is how prepared those who live in low-lying ares are for any sea level rise.

Those who fail to prepare will suffer the consequences.
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If the rise is not significant then there's not a lot of point worrying about it.

How big a rise do you think is going to happen?
 
We Humans have enough real problems ahead of us without contriving imaginary
windmills to tilt.
Long term, weather Co2 is a major factor or not, is irrelevant.
The technology is already invented to solve the problem.
The cost of the inorganic fuels may be higher than Americans pay now,
but lower than Europeans pay.
It turns out hydrocarbons my be both the problem and the solution.
Nature shows us the best way to store energy, we duplicate it.
And the infrastructure is already in place.
Storing green electricity as natural gas - Press Release May 5 2010
Fueling the Fleet, Navy Looks to the Seas - U.S. Naval Research Laboratory
Audi opens 6 MW power-to-gas facility: pv-magazine
I could envision an energy credit system, where anyone who creates energy, can get credits
that can be saved to use in winter, spent at the gas pump, or purchase electricity.
Energy storage was always the real problem, and now a solution has been found.
FYI: I think modern refineries are already rearranging the hydrocarbon molecules to increase yields
of high demand fuels. (If someone is a Petroleum Engineer, maybe they could confirm this.)
 
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