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What is your view on climate change?

What is your view on climate change?

  • Climate change does not occur.There is no global warming or cooling.

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Generally, scientific issues are hashed out in scientific journals. And its pretty clear that the overwhelming consensus among scientists is that global warming caused by CO2 is real. If this wasnt the case, we'd see more controversy about it in the scientific literature.

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Oh. And James Lawrence Powell expanded on that recently to cover the literature from the last year or two. Same thing.

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The lower atmosphere is a volume of over 800,000,000 cubic MILES of air. A cubic mile of air is a lot of air.

A good way to understand how much C02 we are putting into the atmosphere is for every one pound of garbage we make, 40 pounds of CO2 is produced.

Most of us fill up a trash can once a week. If we had to dispose of our CO2 the same way, that would be almost 6 garbage trucks coming by every day, seven days a week.
 
Generally, scientific issues are hashed out in scientific journals. And its pretty clear that the overwhelming consensus among scientists is that global warming caused by CO2 is real. If this wasnt the case, we'd see more controversy about it in the scientific literature.

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Oh. And James Lawrence Powell expanded on that recently to cover the literature from the last year or two. Same thing.

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Obviously it must mean there's a massive conspiracy to promote the cause of anthropogenic climate change.....





































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Generally, scientific issues are hashed out in scientific journals. And its pretty clear that the overwhelming consensus among scientists is that global warming caused by CO2 is real. If this wasnt the case, we'd see more controversy about it in the scientific literature.

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Oh. And James Lawrence Powell expanded on that recently to cover the literature from the last year or two. Same thing.

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Well there it is, we're either cooling, warming, or changing. Consensus!
 
my field is molecular / microbiology, not climatology, but i've read a bit on it. my opinion is that some of it is natural, and some is caused by humans. we are burning a ton of fossil fuels, and the byproducts trap heat.

a lot of the CO2 is going to get absorbed into the ocean, masking some of the effect. for example, at work, we use tissue culture media that turns purplish when basic and more orange as it gets acidic. it has a natural tendency to turn basic as the bottle gets more empty and the media absorbs air, and sensitive cells need it closer to pH 7. to get the media back to pH7, we generally loosen the lid of the bottle and put it in an incubator with CO2. in an hour or so, the media absorbs the CO2 and is closer to pH7 again. the ocean will do the same thing, and this would be extraordinarily bad for sea life.

it's also my opinion that a lot of the wacky weather everywhere is tied to the ocean warming and the normal currents getting screwed up.

independent of the warming debate, we can and should cut out the use of fossil fuels. surely we can come up with something else; fossil fuel technology is hundreds of years old. the byproducts are dirty, and we're really pissing in our own pool here. once the third world starts driving buicks, it's going to be CO2 overload. not to mention that our kids will be fighting wars over diminishing resources. i don't want that. i love my car and motorcycle, but this is the most obvious narrative in the history of everything, and it has been intuitively obvious since the 70s that this energy model is not sustainable.

will cutting out CO2 emissions from fossil fuels result in a nice happy and stable environment forever and ever? certainly not. will it fix or prevent warming in the short to mid term? i guess that also remains to be seen, but i doubt it will have as much effect as some say that it will. it will prevent a lot of pollution and a couple wars, though, and that's good enough for me.
 
it's also my opinion that a lot of the wacky weather everywhere is tied to the ocean warming and the normal currents getting screwed up

the normal currents were always? Or changes from climate change? Heating system throughout Europe, the GulfStream, simply could not exist, only 10 thousand years ago.
 
The atmosphere of the planet Earth is only 4 miles or less high, for the purposes of human and other organisms. Calculate what the volume and weight of that atmosphere and then consider if 6 or 7 billion polluters on the planet could generate a cause and effect relationship on that atmosphere. There really isn't too much atmosphere to work with. In a fantasy world, we could pretend that we aren't polluting or you can look at the smoker next to you or hold your hand over the end of the tailpipe of a running auto or truck if you want a reality check. Then there is water. Maybe a trip to the huge Ocean "dead zones" could cause a synaptic trigger to initiate a thought that perhaps, collectively, we are rapidly screwing up this planet. I know we personally will be dead before the effects are dramatic, and that would just emphasize our collective lack of responsibility. Like it or lump it, we need to adjust our lifestyles to nearly Amish sensibilities. We must establish a natural relationship with the Planet.

Great reply. However, I'd like to add how man has an impact by what he extracts from the Earth just as much as what pollutants he puts into the atmosphere.

When you extract more of the Earth's natural lubricants (oil and water) from deep below the surface without allowing time to replenish them, this, too has an impact on the environment, ie, earthquakes, sinkholes. Tectonic plates shift, layers of the Earth's crust erod and/or weaken and eventually collapse.

Bottom line: Climate change does happen naturallly, but man does contribute to it.
 
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How about when Greenland and the Antarctic stop melting, the ocean level will inundate some shoreline. Like Miami, for instance.

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Sorry, nothing to add... laughing too much to ty...

Thom Paine
 
A combo....BUT, I am not a climate scientist, so use some salt...
And, my knowledge is from the past hundred years...how things were 5,000 or 500,000 years ago, I know not..The scientist may know, and I do not think they can be debated......by some conservative...
 
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