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Vanquished Americans! Choose your overlord.

Choose your overlord


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I went with this.

I was thinking maybe china, but Vietnam sounds better now...

The rest I don't think would be capable. Well perhaps India...

Yeah, there were a few bum choices with no chance what so ever. Bangladesh or what was once East Pakistan, dirt poor. Indonesia is a curious choice to the list, but not really enough industrial might. But they have the people. Ivory Coast, perhaps a worst choice to the list than Bangladesh. China is the most obvious to overthrow or take us over followed by India and Pakistan I think. India and Pakistan only because they have nukes. But Vietnam is my sentimental choice.
 
Mexico has always been a basketcase and always will be.

What would America be like if Mexico conquered America ? That's what Mexico is doing right now. Los Angeles has been under Mexican occupation for over two decades now.

Personally I don't like any of the choices above. America needs to build a doomsday machine.
IMO Mexico is a basket case because of it's leaders.

Who are not necessarily the elected ones.

But then, I actually know little about it.
 
I'll join you in choosing Vietnam. We invaded them - we owe them an invasion.

Plus, I like them. My son married a Vietnamese girl. Their country is making progress and working hard.

Not that I'm advocating an invasion but........

I'm not advocating an invasion either. Our two countries are becoming closer and closer. The Vietnamese have already gave permission for our ships to use Camh Ranh Bay. Vietnam is now part of ASEAN and I think there is plans at sometime in the near future Vietnam will join us and 6 other nations in military exercises in Thailand called Cobra Gold. Yeah Vietnam is now a booming country with a good economy. They are on the move.

I married a Thai girl when I was over there. I was stationed in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. Even during the war the Vietnamese were a beautiful people. At least the ones on our side back then.
 
IMO Mexico is a basket case because of it's leaders.

Who are not necessarily the elected ones.

But then, I actually know little about it.

Actually it's the fault of the Spanish Royal Crown. Unlike the rest of Latin America under the Spanish or Portuguese rule, Spain looked at the Mexican indigenous population differently. Mexico was never properly prepared for self rule.

Mexico has a national inferiority complex. The Mexican people have always ran away from their problems. Unfortunately they soon started running towards El Norte. The only problem was they brought their problems and politics with them.
 
dog-whistle.jpg

What is that? I've never seen anything like it.

Greetings, A351. :2wave:
 
Actually it's the fault of the Spanish Royal Crown. Unlike the rest of Latin America under the Spanish or Portuguese rule, Spain looked at the Mexican indigenous population differently. Mexico was never properly prepared for self rule.

Mexico has a national inferiority complex. The Mexican people have always ran away from their problems. Unfortunately they soon started running towards El Norte. The only problem was they brought their problems and politics with them.
So you're saying that because when Spain was in charge they didn't train Mexicans to lead, they haven't learned how since?
 
What is that? I've never seen anything like it.

Greetings, A351. :2wave:
Hi there. It's picture of a dog whistle, as I felt it was an apt description of Ray's post.
 
So you're saying that because when Spain was in charge they didn't train Mexicans to lead, they haven't learned how since?

There's a book that was just published a coulple of years ago on the history of Mexico that explains it all. If I can find a link I'll post it.

I know where to go to find a book review on it.
 
There's a book that was just published a coulple of years ago on the history of Mexico that explains it all. If I can find a link I'll post it.

I know where to go to find a book review on it.
I guess I'm having a hard time with something becoming so institutionalized that it doesn't change for couple-few hundred years.
 
So you're saying that because when Spain was in charge they didn't train Mexicans to lead, they haven't learned how since?

Wakeup Call From Mexico: Wilson Beck: 9780692003404: Amazon.com: Books

Just an excerpt or two from a book review:

Chapter II – The Collapse of the Golden Age of Mexico


>" Beck makes an important point about the differences between the British settlement of what is now the U.S. and Spain's settlement of Mexico. When Cortes landed in 1519 there were between 10 and 30 million people in Mexico. When pilgrims arrived in 1620 there were fewer than 5 million Indians in what is now the U.S. And, the culture south of the border was well developed based on agriculture, whereas American Indians were hunter-gatherers.


"When the Spaniards first gazed upon the city and floating gardens of Tenochtitlan (Mexico City), they were dumbfounded by what they saw. It was planned and built in a geometric grid with wide avenues, floating vegetable and flower gardens and beautiful pyramids." "the cultures of central Mexico rivaled most European cultures in terms of architecture, engineering, math, and Astronomy, " Beck Reports


To the north, the indigenous population was either dead or on reservations by 1900. To the south the Spaniards began to intermingle with the indigenous people of Mexico. "The vast majorities of modern day Mexicans cling to their indigenous roots rather more than they do their European or Spanish roots," Beck writes.


"The biggest difference between Mexico and the U.S., historically, is that the Spaniards interbred with the indigenous people and the English did not."..."<




Chapter IV – The New Mexican-European Hybrid


Following the fall of the Aztec empire Spain moved to consolidate its power over Mexico. "The Spaniards had no respect for a people they considered inferior and almost subhuman by any measure," Beck writes. "The resulting Mexican became one of the most extraordinary misfits, incapable, maladjusted, human beings imaginable," he opines.


"The impact of the Spaniard on the Mexican culture was diametric. On the one hand he was liberating the Mexican from a barbarous, inhuman past. On the other he was enslaving the culture to in order to exploit the continent of its riches. Which was worse?"


The population of Mexico was decimated. Death due to battle, smallpox, typhus and "attrition caused by the brutal treatment from the Spaniards" amounted to extinction of the Mexican people. After 1521 and toward the end of the century, the native population of Mexico was reduced by from 78 to 95 percent. Beck says demographers agree that by 1595 the Mexican population had been reduced to somewhere between 1.1 and 3.5 million people.


Beck says Mexico became New Spain and immigrants from Spain began arriving by the thousands and then tens of thousands. Beck says for the first 50 years after the conquest very few Spanish women came to Mexico. As a result Spanish men took Mexican concubines, but very few married. Since many of the Spaniards were already married, they were committing bigamy or polygamy – illegal under Spanish law, but permitted in Mexico. "The Aztecs had practiced polygamy, so he Spaniards quickly followed suit," Beck says.


The children of Spaniards born in Mexico were called Criollos. They were white, but didn't have the same rights or privileges as their Spanish-born equivalents. The mixed offspring of Spanish and Crillos with the Mexican were called Mestizos.


Beck draws a parallel between the makeup of the Mexican family unit in the U.S. resulting from the co-mingling of illegal immigrants and citizens to the situation in 16th century Mexico. He says many Mexican men who come to the U.S. illegally leave families behind. Many of these men, Beck says, find a U.S. partner who is a U.S. citizen female to marry and acquire U.S. citizenship.


"It was acceptable for the 16th century Spanish immigrant to father and then shirk the familial responsibility of fatherhood," ..."<

Book Review by Glenn Spencer: A Wakeup Call from Mexico
 
Mexico has always been a basketcase and always will be.

What would America be like if Mexico conquered America ? That's what Mexico is doing right now. Los Angeles has been under Mexican occupation for over two decades now.

Personally I don't like any of the choices above. America needs to build a doomsday machine.


LOL do you have any idea how racist this sounds?
 
The year is 2037. Due to major shifts in alliances, the decline of our economy and the rise of others, as well as a techno-jargon explanation for the elimination of our nuclear arsenal that would sort of make sense in an episode of Star Trek, the United States has been invaded and conquered. Which nation would you choose to rule over you as your overlord?

No, there is no "other," because then you'd all pick Canada, Finland or New Zealand. You only get choices you'll hate.


Bangladesh
China
Mexico
Pakistan
India
Indonesia
Philippines
Ivory Coast
Viet Nam

India or the Philippines seem like the lesser of the available evils here. Both are pretty highly Westernized, not known for an inclination towards war time atrocities or particularly overt forms of authoritarianism, and lack any particular reason to hate or want to exact revenge upon the American civilian population for perceived past injustices.
 
I picked Vietnam as they are well on their way to becoming a booming capitalistic society. We are going the opposite way. Besides I spent two years there and know their culture and traditions. My second choice would be the Philippines, many there still look fondly on us as their friends which probably should have disqualified them from your list.

My best Army buddy is actually a Filipino immigrant.
 
The year is 2037. Due to major shifts in alliances, the decline of our economy and the rise of others, as well as a techno-jargon explanation for the elimination of our nuclear arsenal that would sort of make sense in an episode of Star Trek, the United States has been invaded and conquered. Which nation would you choose to rule over you as your overlord?

No, there is no "other," because then you'd all pick Canada, Finland or New Zealand. You only get choices you'll hate.


Bangladesh
China
Mexico
Pakistan
India
Indonesia
Philippines
Ivory Coast
Viet Nam

I'd probably choose India, as most of the people I have met from India (which is a very considerable number), I like. In spite of their hanging on to the caste system, I find Indians to be generally of pleasant demeanor and down to earth, with a good sense of humor.
 
Ivory Coast. Easiest, perhaps, to toss out in the Revolution.
 
NK can barely manage the logistics for their own people, do you think they could handle an intercontinental invasion?

We're actually debating reality and logistics here? North Korea is ****ing Best Korea, and a North Korean America would also be ****ing Best America. Beat that.
 
We're actually debating reality and logistics here? North Korea is ****ing Best Korea, and a North Korean America would also be ****ing Best America. Beat that.
I'd rather laugh at it. Beating it would involving coaching the opposing team too, and there's that whole conflict of interest thing...
 
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