The Nazi comparisons: Racial diversity

[Phys251]

Let's face it: Godwin's Law isn't going anywhere. From time to time, we hear comparisons between group X and Nazis. As long as the internet is around, we might as well get used to having that happen. So what about them? Let's open that discussion about one view in particular: Racial diversity. What were the Nazis' views on racial diversity? Were they like our liberals, who typically favor diversity? Or did they claim that it was better for society to be racially homogenous?

(Yes, there is a point to this. If this question makes you uncomfortable, you are more than welcome to choose another thread.)

 

[The German]

Something I encountered recently: some moron sputing out how social healthcare was invented by the nazis....

In fact:

That`s an edict from 1883 announcing the interduction of social healthcare in Germany.

It was interduced in the kingdome of Prussia earlier by a conservative government under Bismark to get the political lefts support for his wars against Austria, Denmark and France.

*stabs* during a time when you were killing each other over the question "is slavery ok?"

Kind of funny how people see it a nazi and communist thing in the US, since
first off: those two ideologies dont compute and 60 million dead people should be proof of that.
second: Social healthcare was interduced in Germany 10 years before Hitler was born and before the concept of naziism even existed.
third: Social healthcare was interduced in Prussia before the political concept of socialism even existed as a force in politics.
fourth: social healthcare was invented by the scandinavians, not by Germans, Russians or even worse but unlikely: German, Commie Nazis in Soviet Russia!!!


There is hardly anything I hate and despise as much as some spotty little moron, or fat backwards fool who keeps gabbering and gabbering on about stuff that he doesnt even know to be true or not.





Anyway, concerning race. well..... where to start.

In short the nazis would have in time exterminated everyone who wasnt blond and had blue eyes.

They started with disabled people and then went on to jews, roma, poles, russians, blacks and others.

Many dont know that 12 million and not 6 million were murdered during the holocaust - 6 million of whom were jews.

there are alot of unknown victims to racism in this war.

Blck, Indian and Arab soldiers serving for the allies were never taken prisoner when captured by the nazis - but emidiatly executed.

40 000 black soldiers in French service were murdered in the first months of the German invasion of France.

 

[Phys251]

Interesting, and sordid, analysis. Yeah, those Poles were treated horribly.

FYI this thread has nothing to do with healthcare.

 

[APACHERAT]

What were the Nazis' views on racial diversity? Were they like our liberals, who typically favor diversity? Or did they claim that it was better for society to be racially homogenous?

Liberals/progressives only use diversity as a tool to further their agenda. Liberals/progressives have much in common with Germany's Nationalist Socialist. Did Hitler borrow from America's progressives ?

How many are familiar with the progressives report to Congress ?


Boundaries of Restriction: The Dillingham Commission


>" In the early 1900s immigration increasingly came under the scrutiny of Progressive reformers. Progressives prided themselves on their applications of emerging social sciences and scientific management techniques, believing that through science, societa l ills could be cured. Adhering to the doctrine of pragmatism, which held that the meaning and truth of all concepts and phenomena were determined by their practical consequences, Progressives launched studies on pressing contemporary issues including tru sts, prostitution, and immigration. It fell to Vermont Republican Senator William Paul Dillingham to conduct the Progressive examination of the movement of people to American shores.

Dillingham achieved eminence as the leading Progressive-era legislative spokesman for restriction. While not an originator of new ideas, his habits of mind, holding rural ways of life, property ownership, literacy, and Anglo-Saxon Protestantism sacrosa nct, coalesced with the fear that immigration threatened to transform the republic into a non-Protestant nation of cities breeding disease, poverty, and crime. In the Senate, Dillingham spearheaded restriction as chairman of the Senate Committee on Immigr ation from 1903 and 1911 and chairman of the Dillingham Commission, a joint House-Senate Immigration Commission from 1907 to 1911. The commission's investigation--the most exhaustive study of immigration in American history--originated in response to call s to curtail immigration from Japan and southern and eastern Europe..."<

Continue-> UVM History Review vol. 6 Dec. 1994: Lund

Good read.-> Open Collections Program: Immigration to the US, Dillingham Commission (1907-1910)

 

[spud_meister]

They favoured racial homogeneity.

 

[The German]

Interesting, and sordid, analysis. Yeah, those Poles were treated horribly.

We take this very very very very very very serious here.

I cant even describe how serious.

Claiming that some certain policie was done by the nazis when it was not, can get you into alot of trouble even with the law.

One of the reasons why scientology is so unpopular here is because they once started a campain in which they claimed to have been victims of nazis - which caused public outrage.

Hitlers ideology of race is very well known here and it is really very absurd if you read into it.

Alot of sides are simply wrong.

The nazis believed that all races were created by a god - but which god that was was not determined by them.

They believed that the "Arians" originated from the Himalayas - went West - built Troy - and after it`s destruction went to Germania.

One thing that should show you how absurd this all was is the fact that Himmler had science expeditions look in the Baltic for Atlantis which the nazis believed to have been a pure Arian city that was destoyed by god when they started mixing races.

Which gives you another dimension of this nonsence, the nazis believed that the German race had been made impure through mixing with jews, slavic people and french people.

And they perveted religion by declaring it a sacret mission to restore racial purity - which they considered to be gods creation.

And it is important to underline: Nobody would have been safe.

The nazis even considered the Japanese to be "filthy" and that they had simply copied western culture and were currently practical for achieving goals.

They even categorised the Italians and French into races - and believed that the Brits were hopelessly mixed with jews.

The worst thing about all of this, is that you can read it all in Mein Kampf. It was all writen out and planned years before the war ever started.

So everyone must have known what Hitler was up to.

To some extent, I believe that people back then believed this to be so absurd that it couldnt possibly be serious - until tanks rolled into Poland.

FYI this thread has nothing to do with healthcare.

Well I just mentioned it, since it is subject to alot of godwin in your country