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Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

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Jack Hays said:
He wasn't "caught" in anything except being an honest, forthright, accountable leader. Excellent POTUS material.:peace
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For those so inclined, it might appear that he tossed his staffer out as a scapegoat in order to cover his ass.

In fact, I'm betting everyone opposed to him will use something along those lines, unless some evidence of same or of something else surfaces...
 
Perotista said:
I do, I believe Christie will have a rougher time winning the nomination than the general election. Very much so, there are plenty of republicans that want to see him ruined to a point where he won't run. After all, he is just a RINO. From what I see in the break down of the polls, Christie strength is with independents, not so much within the republican party. Today only 18% of Republicans want him as their nominee. But Christie would defeat Clinton in the general election match up because independents prefer him over Clinton by a 49% to 26% margin.

It seem independent like him a whole lot more than Republicans
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I think it is pretty funny that you guys consider Christy to be a RHINO... He is anti abortion and anti labor, what more do you want?
 
Jack Hays said:
He wasn't "caught" in anything except being an honest, forthright, accountable leader. Excellent POTUS material.:peace
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He did very well yesterday, but my guess he is not home free yet. You have to remember a 91 year old woman allegedly died because of the bridge closure.
 
pbrauer said:
He did very well yesterday, but my guess he is not home free yet. You have to remember a 91 year old woman allegedly died because of the bridge closure.
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As I understand it, she would have died anyway, and if he had nothing to do with it then he had nothing to do with it.
 
Captain America said:
Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

Absolutely. And IF CC gets the GOP nod, the wingnuts WILL hold their nose and vote for him, anyways, before they vote for Hilda.

Christie is the only hope I see for the GOP to regain the oval office. But there's plenty of time for the dynamics to change a dozen times yet.
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:shrug: that's what everyone said about Romney.

As for Christie as the GOP candidate? I'm not thrilled with it - the man isn't loyal to conservatism and he isn't loyal to the party, he's loyal purely and only to Christie and as a subset, the Image Of Christie. He's acerbic towards his opposition, and fails utterly to even give them the benefit of good intentions. "Independents" and "moderates" who think they like him now might start revising their opinion the fourth or fifth time he calls them a bunch of racist idiots for opposing his immigration policies.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: that's what everyone said about Romney.
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I will say that out of the group of horrible Republican candidates that ran last year they were probably right about Romeny.

As for Christie as the GOP candidate? I'm not thrilled with it - the man isn't loyal to conservatism and he isn't loyal to the party, he's loyal purely and only to Christie and as a subset, the Image Of Christie. He's acerbic towards his opposition, and fails utterly to even give them the benefit of good intentions. "Independents" and "moderates" who think they like him now might start revising their opinion the fourth or fifth time he calls them a bunch of racist idiots for opposing his immigration policies.
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I do share some of your concerns about Christie's personality, but I still think he's still probably one of the most electable candidates whose names are being floated around.
 
Anagram said:
I will say that out of the group of horrible Republican candidates that ran last year they were probably right about Romeny.
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They were saying that before the field was even established.

I do share some of your concerns about Christie's personality, but I still think he's still probably one of the most electable candidates whose names are being floated around.
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More so than Paul or Cruz et. al, certainly, but the next President doesn't need to be a one-term Senator if that can be avoided. Governors Walker and Jindal are both better candidates than Christie.
 
cpwill said:
They were saying that before the field was even established.
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Them saying that was probably premature, but he did look a lot better than anyone seeming to consider a bid besides Mitch Daniels IMO. (Just in terms of electability not in terms of who I'd want to win).

More so than Paul or Cruz et. al, certainly, but the next President doesn't need to be a one-term Senator if that can be avoided. Governors Walker and Jindal are both better candidates than Christie.
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I could see Walker being a good candidate. Jindal, I seem to remember heavily dropping off in Lousiana for some reason. It sounds to me like he could have some problems. Mitch Daniels and Brian Sandoval are another two I think could be better than Christie.
 
Juanita said:
I think it is pretty funny that you guys consider Christy to be a RHINO... He is anti abortion and anti labor, what more do you want?
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You're talking to the wrong person here. I am a member of the Reform Party. What is left of it anyway. Christie is not mine and neither are the Republicans or the Democrats. Besides, it is RINO, Republican in Name Only. It is sort of like some Democrats referring to Joe Manchin as a DINO, Democrat in Name Only. The ones who do this are your hard core extreme left or right partisans. I used the term RINO as that is how a lot of Republicans view him.

I personally like Christie and if the contest was between him and Clinton, I would vote for Christie.
 
Anagram said:
Them saying that was probably premature, but he did look a lot better than anyone seeming to consider a bid besides Mitch Daniels IMO. (Just in terms of electability not in terms of who I'd want to win).



I could see Walker being a good candidate. Jindal, I seem to remember heavily dropping off in Lousiana for some reason. It sounds to me like he could have some problems. Mitch Daniels and Brian Sandoval are another two I think could be better than Christie.
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I think you might add the new Indiana Governor Pence and Kasich if he wins re-election this year from Ohio. Daniels has pretty much closed the door and I keep forgetting about Sandoval. Here is the scoop on Jindal:

Jindal's popularity outlook

Last spring Governor Jindal's job performance ratings plunged to an all-time low of 38% because of severe budget cuts to the Charity Hospital System and similar cuts to health care services and higher education. Current state revenue projections point to a budget surplus rather than additional budget cuts in 2014. If Governor Jindal has enough dollars to begin reinvesting in health care and higher education, his job performance ratings could return to the fifties.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: that's what everyone said about Romney.

As for Christie as the GOP candidate? I'm not thrilled with it - the man isn't loyal to conservatism and he isn't loyal to the party, he's loyal purely and only to Christie and as a subset, the Image Of Christie. He's acerbic towards his opposition, and fails utterly to even give them the benefit of good intentions. "Independents" and "moderates" who think they like him now might start revising their opinion the fourth or fifth time he calls them a bunch of racist idiots for opposing his immigration policies.
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I don't know much about Christie, but I dislike him because of a radio ad he probably had nothing to do with.

:2razz:

On a more serious note, I cannot think of anyone I feel at all motivated to vote for in the next presidential election, but then it is a year or so away...
The thing is, I haven't liked any of the candates for either major party for years now...I voted for McCain because I thought he'd be at least better than Obama, but last election I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Romney.

If the next repub candidate is more of the same....well lets just say I'm steadily becoming less and less supporting of the R's.
 
No...most voters are average intelligence at best...except for the fanatically partisan ones, they will have mostly forgotten this by 2016.

Too bad, that useless jerk would make a pathetic POTUS (IMO)...but, I think that about almost every candidate I have seen in every federal election, so....
 
Perotista said:
You're talking to the wrong person here. I am a member of the Reform Party. What is left of it anyway. Christie is not mine and neither are the Republicans or the Democrats. Besides, it is RINO, Republican in Name Only. It is sort of like some Democrats referring to Joe Manchin as a DINO, Democrat in Name Only. The ones who do this are your hard core extreme left or right partisans. I used the term RINO as that is how a lot of Republicans view him.

I personally like Christie and if the contest was between him and Clinton, I would vote for Christie.
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I like him too, but couldn't vote for him..
 
Jack Hays said:
First prize in our Most Superficial Poster contest.:peace
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Not at all. One is an adept observer of American politics to know how easily influenced the voting public are about such matters. I made no comment at all to infer that it would influence me. His politics alone eliminate him as a contender for me. The Republican party has enough hacks as it is.
 
Juanita said:
I like him too, but couldn't vote for him..
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That is the beauty of politics. Each of us has our own values and thoughts. Except for those who follow the two major parties and buy into what each party says 100%, most of us make up our minds on the issues, on candidates, on what we think of our elected officials based on our experiences, how their policies or stances effect us, whether we think they are right or wrong, on our pocket books and on our individual values and sometimes morals. For each individual, for each person there is differences and those differences on points of view is as valid for one as for others. What each of think is right for them.

Contrary to most partisan's view, neither of the our two major parties are trying to destroy America. Both are trying to make her strong and as prosperous in the future. Their paths and ideas on how to get there are very different. People will see one or the other or even both parties as wrong as all get out in their path and ideas. But that doesn't mean either is our to destroy us and our beloved country.

Let me stop here before I write a book, I think you get where I am coming from.
 
pbrauer said:
He claims he had nothing to do with the bridge closure, it was his aide that did it.

Yes, He's toast

No, he's still in the running

I Don't Know
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We have learned with the current administration that anything that happens under him, has no reflection on him.

Now what he should have done is promoted the guy that did it so he could gain respect from the left.
 
Mason66 said:
We have learned with the current administration that anything that happens under him, has no reflection on him.

Now what he should have done is promoted the guy that did it so he could gain respect from the left.
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:funny
 
The Mark said:
It's kinda stupid too....as if every scandal is somehow like the Watergate scandal...at least I think that's the reason for it...
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What if the hotel had been called something else like the Hilton.

Would we be saying "Bridgeton"?
 
The Mark said:
It's kinda stupid too....as if every scandal is somehow like the Watergate scandal...at least I think that's the reason for it...
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The Watergate scandal had nothing to do with water, so adding gate to all scandals doesn't make sense.
 
a351 said:
Christie seems to have that every-man, tell it like it is appeal. I'd certainly label it as charisma, although many may find it off-putting. As for voters short memories, I don't think one could point to a better example than the drastic swings in polling data we've witnessed during and immediately after the recent federal shutdown. The doom and gloom predictions that were made during lasted all of a few weeks. An individual with Christie's clout should overcome this with ease, barring significant and new discoveries as to his direct involvement.
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When the election gets closer I think people are going to be more worried about how Christy would handle national and world events and not if there was a traffic jam in the arm pit of America.
 
Mason66 said:
When the election gets closer I think people are going to be more worried about how Christy would handle national and world events and not if there was a traffic jam in the arm pit of America.
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People yes, media no.
 
Mason66 said:
What if the hotel had been called something else like the Hilton. Would we be saying "Bridgeton"?
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Well you know the discussion is at low ebb when the complaints about why we name things the way we do trots out... :mrgreen:

Maybe we would say he did a Dick, or Nixoned himself. :peace
 
SayMyName said:
I think Christie's weight issue eliminates him from ever being taken seriously as a presidential candidate.
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Are there more fat people in the country than blacks?

If Christie can separate out the fat people and get them all to vote for him, he will win hands down.

He can be the first Obese-American President.
 
Ockham said:
People yes, media no.
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The media is going to have bigger fish to fry, no pun intended.

We are 2 years from the election year and I am sure some republican is going to do something stupid and the media will focus on that.

I doubt this will have staying power.
 
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