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Is minimum wage a lot?

Assuming a 40 hour work week, is minimum wage a lot?

  • Yes, give your general geographic location

    Votes: 5 11.9%

  • No, give your general geographic location

    Votes: 37 88.1%
  • Total voters
    42
  • Poll closed .
Unitedwestand13 said:
why do they deserve to suffer because they wanted liberal arts degrees?
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In my world, stupidity would be a crime. I will live with it just being a financial sentence, however.

When you have a rich daddy, then you can go to college and major in an unemployable, non-marketable field.
 
BretJ said:
I too would hardly call them idiots.
Some are in that minimum wage position while in high-school and are learning about work ethic and saving for their first car or trying to help their family out - Awesome life choice.
Some are in that minimum wage position hoping/working/striving to better themselves and find a better paying job - They are making good life choices too.
Some are in that minimum wage position because for whatever economic reason beyond their control, they have lost their job but are hoping/working/striving to find a better job- again, they are making good life choices.
There is a smaller segment who have made poor life choices during their educational years and are expecting someone else to bail them out by forcing employers to subsidize their past poor life choices after real life shows them what idiots they were. This old adage seems appropriate in their case, "Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid".
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Yeah but if you make minimum wage you will be labelled an idiot by Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman. Is it really worth it? Shouldn't they just starve and die in the street to avoid being called an idiot by Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman? Sometimes it hurts peoples feelings to be called an idiot. Are you sure they shouldn't take stock in what Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman think about them? There is no shame in choosing $0 instead of $15,080 per year. Some people might desire the approval of Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman. Maybe it's poor choice to worry about what other people say.

Screw them. Take the minimum wage job just to spite them. :thumbs:
 
Gipper said:
In my world, stupidity would be a crime. I will live with it just being a financial sentence, however.

When you have a rich daddy, then you can go to college and major in an unemployable, non-marketable field.
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what liberal arts majors do you consider wasteful?

if stupidity were a crime, earth would be considered the largest prison ever created to house criminals
 
Gipper said:
In my world, stupidity would be a crime.
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Who would be the judge, jury and executioner? Someone might accuse you of the crime of stupidity. It's very easy to use immature and childish words like that without any intention of defining their meaning. If the punishment for stupidity was death, you would eventually live in a world all by yourself. The people that use these childish and immature words use them to describe every single person. How sad. :(
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
be specific please or else i don't know what you are talking about?

are you talking about teachers? artists? musicians? historians?
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Education is not considered a liberal art.

Okay, a quick list of majors that are wasteful and should not be given public funds to purport. Lists may be altered at any time in the future:

Philosophy
Sociology
Anthropology
Music
Art
History
African-American Studies
 
Gipper said:
Education is not considered a liberal art.

Okay, a quick list of majors that are wasteful and should not be given public funds to purport. Lists may be altered at any time in the future:

Philosophy
Sociology
Anthropology
Music
Art
History
African-American Studies
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okay now i am annoyed.

money is not the reason people study sociology: it is to better understand Human behavior, something that is worth every cent of funding that is invested in that field.

philosophy is not a field to earn money, it is to discuss and devolop new ways of looking at how we understand things.

Anthropology is the study of how Humanity as a species has developed and evolved, somthing that should be studied and funded.

Music and art is created to express oneself, and culture is something that helps define a person, a ethnic group, and countries. you don't think people should be encouraged to express themselves through music and art.

And as a student intending to get a carreer as a history teacher, i am offended that you consider my subject of study wasteful. history is the study of our past, in order to understand the present and help us create our future. That is something worth funding.

African american studies is not a job designed to create money, it was created to study a field of knowledge long overlooked. African americans need to know where they originally came from, their old culture from the time before they came to america.

and why are majors in this field wasteful?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
okay now i am annoyed.

money is not the reason people study sociology: it is to better understand Human behavior, something that is worth every cent of funding that is invested in that field.

philosophy is not a field to earn money, it is to discuss and devolop new ways of looking at how we understand things.

Anthropology is the study of how Humanity as a species has developed and evolved, somthing that should be studied and funded.

Music and art is created to express oneself, and culture is something that helps define a person, a ethnic group, and countries. you don't think people should be encouraged to express themselves through music and art.

And as a student intending to get a carreer as a history teacher, i am offended that you consider my subject of study wasteful. history is the study of our past, in order to understand the present and help us create our future. That is something worth funding.

African american studies is not a job designed to create money, it was created to study a field of knowledge long overlooked. African americans need to know where they originally came from, their old culture from the time before they came to america.

and why are majors in this field wasteful?
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I don't mind people entering these fields. I would support, however, federal grant money be eliminated for these fields. I also have no sympathy if they get out of college and sling hash by necessity because they think college is hedonistic instead of purposeful.
 
Gipper said:
I don't mind people entering these fields. I would support, however, federal grant money be eliminated for these fields. I also have no sympathy if they get out of college and sling hash by necessity because they think college is hedonistic instead of purposeful.
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people have to make choices in order to live, i am going to college with a purpose and if i need to do part time jobs to sustain myself so be it.
 
Minimum wage should be nearly triple what it is today.

No family should have a household income below $40,000 / yr.

Current minimum wage for a single earner is about $15,000 / yr at a 40 hour workweek.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
people have to make choices in order to live, i am going to college with a purpose and if i need to do part time jobs to sustain myself so be it.
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Well when you're 45 and asking someone if they want to upsize their meal for 39 extra cents, you say it with pride.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
many of these kids might already have college degrees but cannot find employment because there are no openings.
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That's impossible. There is exactly one job for every single living person. Haven't you ever heard of magic?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
News Flash to all idiots
When people are given the choice between earning $15,080 per year and $50,000 per year they will choose the job paying $50,000 per year. Also nobody has a crystal ball. Nobody knows what the future holds. (There are four exceptions: Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman all know every single thing.) It is possible to make $50,000 for 10 years and then get laid off because the company closed. Making $0 instead of $15,080 just to avoid being labelled an idiot by Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman would be a poor decision.
News Flash to all idiots
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You didn't read what I wrote, as it had nothing to do with knowing the future. 1) Having a child before you're financially ready to have a child is idiotic. 2) Accepting minimum wage but then for some reason expecting the minimum wage to satisfy the needs of an entire family… is idiotic.
 
Peter Grimm said:
No family should have a household income below $40,000 / yr.
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I made around $15,800 in 2013. My wife made around $13,500. Should we be arrested, put in jail and receive repeated beatings with whips and chains?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
I made around $15,800 in 2013. My wife made around $13,500. Should we be arrested, put in jail and receive repeated beatings with whips?
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Quite the opposite. You guys should have received a check in the mail for just over $10,000 to help you out.

I'm sure you worked hard and deserve to have spending money like everyone else.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Minimum wage should be nearly triple what it is today.

No family should have a household income below $40,000 / yr.
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Not every income needs to support a family.

Wages are job-based, not employee-need-based.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Quite the opposite. You guys should have received a check in the mail for just over $10,000 to help you out.

I'm sure you worked hard and deserve to have spending money like everyone else.
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I pray to God that this is sarcasm.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Quite the opposite. You guys should have received a check in the mail for just over $10,000 to help you out.

I'm sure you worked hard and deserve to have spending money like everyone else.
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It's a secret. I do get a pretty big check. Earned income credit, child tax credit and additional child tax credit. I'm not sure what the exact amount will be but it usually adds up to around $6,500 or so.

I'm not so sure everybody in this thread would agree with you. There are 5 people in particular that I believe would disagree with you.
 
Neomalthusian said:
Not every income needs to support a family.

Wages are job-based, not employee-need-based.
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We're a wealthy country. We can afford to ensure a good standard of living for every one of our citizens.

It's inhuman that you have CEO's making multi-million dollar salaries, you have investors making millions without doing anything at all, you have football players making millions, all while millions of Americans are living hand to mouth.
 
Gipper said:
I pray to God that this is sarcasm.
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Earned Income Credit, child tax credit and additional child tax credit. Apparently Peter Grimm isn't the only one that thinks this. This was done by a majority of congress, majority of senators and supported by the president. The American people vote these people into office. This has been going on for decades. Where have you been?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Guess who has the authority to define what financially ready means. Times up. The correct answer is not you.
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For the new parents that must turn to the state to pay their bills, it need not even be said, as it's self-evident.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Minimum wage should be nearly triple what it is today.

No family should have a household income below $40,000 / yr.

Current minimum wage for a single earner is about $15,000 / yr at a 40 hour workweek.
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Then feel free to finance this yourself.
 
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