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Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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Aaaaaaanyway, getting back on topic, there's nothing gray about a ban on smoking in your car with children, because

a)cigarette smoke is a known carcinogen with links to numerous health problems (including death)
b)opening a window does not actually prevent cigarette smoke from entering the entire vehicle, as any smoker or passenger already well knows.
c)children have extremely limited powers in preventing parents from smoking. Sure, they can ask the parent to stop smoking, but if the parent insists then the child is crap out of luck.
 
Cardinal said:
Only a person who has never worked a job in her life would say such a thing.
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You were coerced into a job? Who was the person who did it? And why did you not alert the authorities?
 
Henrin said:
Your arguments here are pretty strange. On one hand the government taking peoples property by threat of imprisonment is a choice, but on the other, deciding to work or do business at a bar is not a choice. I'm guessing in your world everything is the opposite of reality.
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Strawman. I never took a specific stance on the restaurant smoking ban, and I've expressed that multiple times now.
 
scatt said:
You were coerced into a job? Who was the person who did it? And why did you not alert the authorities?
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The wording of your post suggested coercion within the workplace, not in where you chose to get work.
 
Cardinal said:
The wording of your post suggested coercion within the workplace, not in where you chose to get work.
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You were coerced at your job? Who was the person who did it? And why did you not alert the authorities?
 
scatt said:
You were coerced at your job? Who was the person who did it? And why did you not alert the authorities?
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You may think you're being cute, but in reality you're just giving the impression you've never worked a day in your life.
 
Cardinal said:
You may think you're being cute, but in reality you're just giving the impression you've never worked a day in your life.
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I have worked a day in my life if I believe I was coerced at a job?
 
Fiddytree said:
I'm guessing enforcement is not a top priority. Not worried.



I don't smoke, but I think many non-smokers are God damned ******s. While an undergraduate, I got to hear all sorts of nonsense from Minnesotan liberals about the harmful effects of second-hand smoke with incredibly strong wind gusts and large open spaces. The mere act of being behind a smoker was so horrible as to demand that no one do it. Of course, when it's -30, the only poor souls that are outside (apparently filling the air with harmful carcinogens) are smokers, huddling together around the heated glow of their cigarettes.
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Lol, it reminds me of this from the IT crowd on bbc

 
scatt said:
I have worked a day in my life if I believe I was coerced at a job?
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Have you held a job? The kind with a boss and a paycheck?
 
Cardinal said:
Have you held a job? The kind with a boss and a paycheck?
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I thought I had, but now I know that it was not a job because I did not believe I was coerced at that job.
 
tacomancer said:
Lol, it reminds me of this from the IT crowd on bbc

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:lol:

True story: I was just in an airport that had its own bona fide smoking lounge. I never even suspected those existed.
 
scatt said:
I thought I had, but now I know that it was not a job because I did not believe I was coerced at that job.
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Yeah? Where did you work?
 
Cardinal said:
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You haven't actually held a job, have you.
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Again, before today I was under the impression that I had. But the coercion thing being a requirement proved me wrong.
 
Cardinal said:
:lol:

True story: I was just in an airport that had its own bona fide smoking lounge. I never even suspected those existed.
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Its the room where the windows look like walls
 
scatt said:
Again, before today I was under the impression that I had. But the coercion thing being a requirement proved me wrong.
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Yeah, you said that already.

Appleby's? TGI Fridays? A newspaper route? Anything at all?
 
tacomancer said:
Its the room where the windows look like walls
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Nope, had its own floor to ceiling windows, iphone chargers, the whole nine yards. It was the real deal. The room was so beautiful it made me want to be a smoker myself.
 
Cardinal said:
Nope, had its own floor to ceiling windows, iphone chargers, the whole nine yards. It was the real deal. The room was so beautiful it made me want to be a smoker myself.
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Wow. The smoking rooms in the atlanta airport look like a 70s party. Its a super smokey room, except it doesnt smell as good as a 70s party would.
 
Cardinal said:
Something related to this came up earlier in this thread, in which I said that it would be extremely difficult to make an argument against food (or barbecues) because they are in nature nutritional requirements, while cigarettes are only harmful. Your plant reference is nonsense because plant fragrances aren't carcinogenic.
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The conversion of a plant via heat has been deemed hazardous. The conversion of food via heat, or which plants are considered food, could very well be considered hazardous. Any attempt to dodge such a real possiblity only serves to underline your desire to protect the agenda while shutting your eyes to reality.

That is your choice, and evidence of a willingness by many to ignore the real slippery slope that has been entered on to.
 
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