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Should these criminals be arrested, prosecuted and imprisoned?

Should these men be prosecuted under federal law?

  • Yes, prosecute them for the federal felony offense

    Votes: 15 75.0%

  • No, that law is a bad law so no one should have to follow it.

    Votes: 5 25.0%

  • No, only popular laws have to be complied with.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    20
ChrisL said:
I think you were replying to him because I agree that we were playing peacekeepers at that particular time, and I'm a she BTW. :lol:
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Sorry about that, I never gave it a thought. I guess I am an old fashioned male chauvinist pig who usually uses the term him, he, man to refer to everyone as I was taught in school back in the 50's. I always use the term congressman, never congresswoman or congressperson as an example. But I still open doors and pull out chairs for women or girls regardless of age. Just my upbringing I guess. She huh? I just considered you a friend and someone nice to talk to and get your views from. I suppose I have made that mistake quite a few time, especially over the internet.
 
Perotista said:
Sorry about that, I never gave it a thought. I guess I am an old fashioned male chauvinist pig who usually uses the term him, he, man to refer to everyone as I was taught in school back in the 50's. I always use the term congressman, never congresswoman or congressperson as an example. But I still open doors and pull out chairs for women or girls regardless of age. Just my upbringing I guess. She huh? I just considered you a friend and someone nice to talk to and get your views from. I suppose I have made that mistake quite a few time, especially over the internet.
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Not that it can always be trusted to be sure, but the avatar!!
 
Montecresto said:
Not that it can always be trusted to be sure, but the avatar!!
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I really never gave it a thought. I got what is called a one track mind and when I am typing, I am typing and not looking around at an avatar or anything else. Oh well. Everyone has to step on it now in then or in it depending I suppose.
 
Perotista said:
I really never gave it a thought. I got what is called a one track mind and when I am typing, I am typing and not looking around at an avatar or anything else. Oh well. Everyone has to step on it now in then or in it depending I suppose.
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Haha, it's no big deal, she put the smiley out there for ya!
 
joko104 said:
As many members furious claim the "mountain man" who refused to pay $16 for a fishing license rightly was arrested and prosecuted because everyone must follow the law, this seems a relevant question - and is a public poll for those daring to ask.

Every MALE born from 1959 was and still is required to register with the Selective Service, which can be done at the post office. Failing to do so is to be punished:

1. 5 years in federal prison.
2. $250,000 in fines.
3. Lose of voting rights, gun ownership rights and all other loses associated with a felony conviction.
4. Banned from ever holding a federal job or job with the post office.
5. Banned from only most political offices and many other types of employment.
6. Generally also then being unable to be bonded or licensed for many professions, including as an attorney.
7. Banned from most law enforcement positions.

Most states also have penalties.

Shouldn't every male who has not or did not register as required be promptly arrested and prosecuted since everyone must follow the law and there should never be any exceptions or excuses allowed?

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Registering for the Draft: It's Still the Law
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A lot of those penalties sound harsh but as it is the law to be registered, they should be given a 2 week notice and if they have not registered by then, then yes i would say arrest them for a felony.
 
Perotista said:
Sorry about that, I never gave it a thought. I guess I am an old fashioned male chauvinist pig who usually uses the term him, he, man to refer to everyone as I was taught in school back in the 50's. I always use the term congressman, never congresswoman or congressperson as an example. But I still open doors and pull out chairs for women or girls regardless of age. Just my upbringing I guess. She huh? I just considered you a friend and someone nice to talk to and get your views from. I suppose I have made that mistake quite a few time, especially over the internet.
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There are usually far more men on political sites than women, so it's not unusual to assume you're talking to a man. It's interesting that we can use the term them, though, which can include both men and women, without anyone questioning the word. :confused:
 
polgara said:
There are usually far more men on political sites than women, so it's not unusual to assume you're talking to a man. It's interesting that we can use the term them, though, which can include both men and women, without anyone questioning the word. :confused:
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Well, as long as it wasn't a Katoey. But over the internet, I wouldn't mind that either.
 
Perotista said:
Well, as long as it wasn't a Katoey. But over the internet, I wouldn't mind that either.
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From what I understand about a Katoey, it's possible to be talking to both sexes in one person. You can't ever be wrong! :mrgreen: win-win...
 
Perotista said:
I never denied that we squeezed the Japan, but it was the hopes that the embargo would encourage Japan to remove her troops from China. Besides I was replying to ChrisL to let him know why the embargo was put in place.
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The embargo was put in place in order to intentionally provoke the Japanese into attacking us in order to pull us into the war.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you slap a embargo on a country that country is going to be pretty pissed and retaliate. It was practically the same thing with WWI, we were sending in supply ships to Britain and few other countries and those ships were sunk and that pulled us into WWI.
 
As I said before I refused to register for the draft and I was willing to accept any punishment the government had for me. My reason for this was very simple. I refuse to be the servant of another human being or group of human beings and I refuse to comply to a law making me sign up for it. That didn't matter in the end though since my mother signed me up after she realized I was not going to back down on my stance.
 
jamesrage said:
The embargo was put in place in order to intentionally provoke the Japanese into attacking us in order to pull us into the war.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you slap a embargo on a country that country is going to be pretty pissed and retaliate. It was practically the same thing with WWI, we were sending in supply ships to Britain and few other countries and those ships were sunk and that pulled us into WWI.
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And it's worked quite nicely every time the US has wanted to throw its hat in the ring. Sometimes they poke the country in the eye that they want to be at war with and then respond with shock and horror when they hit us back, sometimes they just tell us big whoppers about the country they wish to attack, but one things certain, we never have a shortage of Neanderthals in America ready to get behind the next war, raise they're flags and pull their yellow ribbons out of the drawer.
 
polgara said:
From what I understand about a Katoey, it's possible to be talking to both sexes in one person. You can't ever be wrong! :mrgreen: win-win...
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Seems so. Katoey-7.jpg

Miss Katoey beauty pageant winner.
 
Perotista said:
So many people in this country receive all the rewards she has to offer, yet are unwilling to give anything back to here. If JFK was alive today and stated this, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." I am sure the vast majority of Americans would laugh him out of the building.

I think pretty that most Americans are perfectly happy to let less than 1% of the population defend America and that they wouldn't lift a hand to defend her if she was invaded and conquered.
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If the people won't defend the country voluntarily then clearly the country doesn't deserve the benefits of their protection.
 
jamesrage said:
The embargo was put in place in order to intentionally provoke the Japanese into attacking us in order to pull us into the war.It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you slap a embargo on a country that country is going to be pretty pissed and retaliate. It was practically the same thing with WWI, we were sending in supply ships to Britain and few other countries and those ships were sunk and that pulled us into WWI.
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Could be, but what I said was what the history books say.
 
Montecresto said:
Why do I have to be placed in the extreme as isolationist by you, just because I disapprove of interventionism?
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It is a simple question… if you believe that any action against another nation, no matter what that nation does, is a provocation of that nation which allows them to attack, then are you or are you not an isolationist?
 
Henrin said:
If the people won't defend the country voluntarily then clearly the country doesn't deserve the benefits of their protection.
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Okay, and by the same standard, the people do not deserve to reap the benefits and the rewards of the country.
 
Perotista said:
Okay, and by the same standard, the people do not deserve to reap the benefits and the rewards of the country.
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Depends on if they consent to it or not. Consenting to the benefits of a country doesn't mean you consent to defend it. The only thing that consenting to the benefits of a country applies to is the benefits.
 
Henrin said:
Depends on if they consent to it or not. Consenting to the benefits of a country doesn't mean you consent to defend it. The only thing that consenting to the benefits of a country applies to is the benefits.
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So you think one can reap all the benefits and rewards a country has to offer without doing or giving anything in return?
 
Perotista said:
So you think one can reap all the benefits and rewards a country has to offer without doing or giving anything in return?
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Of course. When you provide someone a service they never asked for they do not owe you payment in exchange for it. That is neither here nor there though since all people have the right to their labor and you can not force them into service for you. The draft is very much in violation of that right. It is, by definition, slavery.
 
Perotista said:
Sorry about that, I never gave it a thought. I guess I am an old fashioned male chauvinist pig who usually uses the term him, he, man to refer to everyone as I was taught in school back in the 50's. I always use the term congressman, never congresswoman or congressperson as an example. But I still open doors and pull out chairs for women or girls regardless of age. Just my upbringing I guess. She huh? I just considered you a friend and someone nice to talk to and get your views from. I suppose I have made that mistake quite a few time, especially over the internet.
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No offense taken. I just thought I would let you know. :)
 
Arbo said:
It is a simple question… if you believe that any action against another nation, no matter what that nation does, is a provocation of that nation which allows them to attack, then are you or are you not an isolationist?
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No really its not simple. I'm obviously in favour of a strong defence to protect ourselves from enemy attack. But I don't fancy politicians provoking other countries to attack us. Or telling us lies about the intentions of other countries to gain support for pre-emptive strikes. When it comes to commerce, tourism, disaster relief, consultants for infrastructure projects, world Olympics participation, joint space adventures, almost anything else you can mention, I'm all for the US being in the game. Now that's hardly isolation. That's just a dirty word that pro war hawks throw at peacemakers to diminish them.
 
Henrin said:
Of course. When you provide someone a service they never asked for they do not owe you payment in exchange for it. That is neither here nor there though since all people have the right to their labor and you can not force them into service for you. The draft is very much in violation of that right. It is, by definition, slavery.
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I was drafted into the army in 1966 and I did my duty. I never thought of it as slavery, it wasn't. I was free to live my life in the bounds of the military like anyone else can live their life within the bounds of our society.
 
ChrisL said:
No offense taken. I just thought I would let you know. :)
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Yes MA'AM, three bags full. It doesn't matter, you're still fun to talk to and I would rather talk to you than some of the other nuts on this site. You my dear lady, (how is that for sucking up) have a good head on your shoulders. Even if you live in the fridgit north.
 
Montecresto said:
No really its not simple. I'm obviously in favour of a strong defence to protect ourselves from enemy attack. But I don't fancy politicians provoking other countries to attack us. Or telling us lies about the intentions of other countries to gain support for pre-emptive strikes. When it comes to commerce, tourism, disaster relief, consultants for infrastructure projects, world Olympics participation, joint space adventures, almost anything else you can mention, I'm all for the US being in the game. Now that's hardly isolation. That's just a dirty word that pro war hawks throw at peacemakers to diminish them.
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So you want to allow other countries to slaughter their citizens and us do nothing about it. Got it.
 
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