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Ron Paul

Thoughts of Ron Paul

  • Love him

    Votes: 17 39.5%

  • Hate him

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • He's a political genius

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • He's a wingnut

    Votes: 8 18.6%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • Total voters
    43
Ockham said:
But it's soo.... confusing..... :lol:


Caption: That thar funny languages they spoke in dem daze don't make no sense rightly and we young people's just can't make heads nor tails of the darned thing!!



To a liberal blogger turned MSNBC contributor, I'm sure it is just too darned confusing.
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That has to be the most frightening aspect of the whole debate. That an intelligent, supposedly, human being educated in the US system, have studied checks and balances and the concept of written law and courts to interpret them, would devalue the issue to one of understanding language written by Americans is asinine. I guess his education left out quotes from Ben Franklin from the same time that are clearly understood today without an interpreter, but legal scholars and law makers [those who don't bother to read either the constitution or the law their passing], cannot possibly grasp the meaning because its, what, now a foreign language?

I suggest this dolt proves his Ron Paul's point perfectly. Without a written constitution, incompetents like this would be running things.

Wait.

They are.
 
I volunteered for Ron Paul. It was great. The amount of support and how he got young people into politics was a good thing. I was a die hard defender against the claims of racism too. That is until I found a video showing him speaking at a neo-confederates rally.

But Paul still had some good ideas. It's too bad Rand Paul is such a friggin' tool.
 
Ron Paul standing in front of a huge Confederate flag giving a speech.

 
Ron Paul
"I don't believe in evolution."
 
joko104 said:
Ron Paul standing in front of a huge Confederate flag giving a speech.

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Yep, that's the one. I still supported him but it was quite crushing to find out his claims about no longer being a racist were not quite true.
 
iacardsfan said:
Im interested in the people of DPs view on Ron Paul. I know he has a mixed reaction from people. Most seem to either love him or hate him.


To all, I would suggest reading "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. It's a good read and it really defines his personal beliefs with solid rationalization.

Please explain your selection!
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I voted other, even though he is only one of two people to whose campaign I donated, so I'm happy to see that he is loved, and I see that all over the place. but I did not vote I love him, because when I think deeper, he did not have a full solution, I explain what I mean on the first paragraph of my web site
 
I like the guy, he is very likable and I do think that we need voices like his in congress. Just like on the other end of the spectrum we need voices like Bernie Sanders in the Senate. However, that all said, Ron Paul in my opinion is a perfect example of why libertarianism as a cult like belief never works. For all the time he spent in congress, he is probably one of the least effective legislators of the past century. Other than his audit the fed bill, I can't think of anything he ever actually accomplished. What other legislator with the following Ron Paul had, has been so ineffective?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Yeah but Ron Paul's interpration of the constitution differs from other politicans because he does not believe in implied powers or any modern application of the commerce clause.
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Yeah, literacy sure is overrated.
 
He's a lovable genius/wingnut. I voted for him. He's one of the few politicians who seems like he might be a nice guy. Unlike most politicians who tell people what they wanna hear, he's willing to get booed.
 
I started off liking Ron Paul because the simple versions of his views sounded appealing to me. Things such as his foreign policy and attitude towards the war on drugs appealed to me.
But the more I learned about him, the more I realized just how impractical and impossible his overall ideology actually is.
With that being said, I don't dislike or like the man.

However, his son Rand Paul is another issue entirely. The man is a complete crackpot and extremely dangerous to our Nation. I oppose everything that Rand has even so much as pondered.
And his ideology is extremely dangerous and damaging to America.
This man would have us become a series of police states run by corporations that replace the government.
 
iacardsfan said:
Im interested in the people of DPs view on Ron Paul. I know he has a mixed reaction from people. Most seem to either love him or hate him.


To all, I would suggest reading "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. It's a good read and it really defines his personal beliefs with solid rationalization.

Please explain your selection!
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Ron Paul is a racist (as is shown by his articles in his magazine back in the 1990's) who is hiding behind libertarianism as an excuse for his racism - which is why he says he believes that businesses should be able to discriminate against others based on race, religion, color, etc.

I don't agree with libertarian theory - it's just the polar opposite of communism, and every bit as unworkable in human society - but Ron Paul's not even a true libertarian. He's got some positions that agree with libertarian thought...but others that are not libertarian at all.
 
iacardsfan said:
Im interested in the people of DPs view on Ron Paul. I know he has a mixed reaction from people. Most seem to either love him or hate him.


To all, I would suggest reading "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. It's a good read and it really defines his personal beliefs with solid rationalization.

Please explain your selection!
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I would like to know what your motives were in bringing up Ron Paul at this particular time? He isn't running for any political office. But maybe his son,who does not agree with his father on many issues may be seeking the nomination for president. And there seems to be a real threat acknowledged on the left when it comes to Rand Paul. He is polling quite well across the country.
 
vesper said:
I would like to know what your motives were in bringing up Ron Paul at this particular time? He isn't running for any political office. But maybe his son,who does not agree with his father on many issues may be seeking the nomination for president. And there seems to be a real threat acknowledged on the left when it comes to Rand Paul. He is polling quite well across the country.
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It was just a whim
 
I voted for him in NJ's 2012 GOP Presidential Primary - even though Mitt Romney was already the presumptive nominee. And it was literally a coin toss between him and Newt Gingrich.

But, I'm not so sure I would still vote for him - because of his opposition to working with Israel. I would be able to understand and respect his decision to audit or shut down the federal reserve - and a lot of his isolationist policies (like how he would stop wanting to give U.S. government funding to countries that hate us). But, Israel is a holy land, and an important ally of our's.
 
DaveFagan said:
He is the only Republican I would consider voting for. I'm a Green. I usually vote Green. I can't believe the fruit of his loins is from the same gene pool. Must have been some chlorine in the pool.
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As you probably know, I tried to vote green (Nader) and donated to Ron Paul. in my view both parties (if they are sincere in what they preach) lp.org and the greens are fighting the same evil, and are on the same boat.
 
iacardsfan said:
Im interested in the people of DPs view on Ron Paul. I know he has a mixed reaction from people. Most seem to either love him or hate him.


To all, I would suggest reading "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. It's a good read and it really defines his personal beliefs with solid rationalization.

Please explain your selection!
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I respect him. He's relatively unwavering, and when he does change his mind, there's always a good reason for it, and it's a gradual kind of thing, rather than just flopping once the opinion polls come in.

But I don't care for his politics, and I think he has several areas of hypocrisy. I also think his views are kind of simplistic for the 21st century and untenable for a competitive America.

However, honesty is a trait that is nearly completely absent from our political system these days, so he gets points from me on that alone.
 
iacardsfan said:
Im interested in the people of DPs view on Ron Paul. I know he has a mixed reaction from people. Most seem to either love him or hate him.


To all, I would suggest reading "The Revolution: A Manifesto" by Ron Paul. It's a good read and it really defines his personal beliefs with solid rationalization.

Please explain your selection!
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I like him
 
Interesting politician with extremely limited charisma, a gigantic lack of pragmatism, and a blunt honesty that is as much a hinderance as it is a bonus for him. I think the Republican party would be well served adopting some of his fiscal and governmental rhetoric as a means of attrating the youth vote and also gaining stronger support within the moderate to right libertarian base within the country. Ultimately, a ideological messenger rather than a political standard bearer. He's a guy whose philosophies and general views on most things I agree with but whose actual solutions seem to take things a step too far and who has a few views that make me just blink confused that I even heard someone suggest it.
 
reinoe said:
Yep, that's the one. I still supported him but it was quite crushing to find out his claims about no longer being a racist were not quite true.
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This piece doesn't confirm he's a racist at all. When you listen to it he clearly states that in his opinion the civil war was a battle over states rights verses federal authority. He completely removes the racial aspect to it by denying that the war was fought over slavery even though it was used as an excuse which gave Lincoln a huge political advantage and denied other countries that likely would have come to the souths aid from doing so because slavery was already outlawed in their country. Now you might disagree with RP on that, but his position as stated in this piece does not confirm he was/is a racist.
 
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