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Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?[W:178]

Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?


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Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

What language, exactly, in the 14th amendment leads you believe that it applies to matters of race and not sexual orientation? I see the phrase "any person" without any qualifiers.

since when does "any person" translate to "any person's sexual preference"?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

What language, exactly, in the 14th amendment leads you believe that it applies to matters of race and not sexual orientation? I see the phrase "any person" without any qualifiers.

Same reason the SCOTUS gave the first time when they upheld DOMA. All citizens (with certain legal exceptions) ARE able to enter onto marriage with the opposite sex. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.
 
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Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Same reason the SCOTUS gave the first time when they upheld DOMA. All citizens (with certain legal exceptions) ARE able to enter onto marriage with the opposite sex. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.

and yet they are still persons and it still factually an equality issue
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Same reason the SCOTUS gave the first time when they upheld DOMA. All citizens (with certain legal exceptions) ARE able to enter onto marriage with the opposite sex. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.

Then how does this differ with saying that all citizens are able to enter into marriage with the same race?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Then how does this differ with saying that all citizens are able to enter into marriage with the same race?

Race is a protected constitutional class. In fact we have a couple amendments because of it. Sexual orientation, not so much.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

and yet they are still persons and it still factually an equality issue

We have people who still believe the world is less than 6,000 years old. They believe their opinions to be factual as well.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

I think the religious folks should be all for gay marriage actually, as it would cut down on the amount of gay sex.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

We have people who still believe the world is less than 6,000 years old. They believe their opinions to be factual as well.

this is true, they BELIEVE it

BUT

facts prove them wrong

just like now, the handful of people that believe they are right are proven wrong by facts, facts proof SSM is an equal rights issue
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Then how does this differ with saying that all citizens are able to enter into marriage with the same race?

it doesnt, just like equal rights for women and minorities and your example of interracial marriage.

THey are all equal rights issues
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Happy to:

"This case presents a constitutional question never addressed by this Court: whether a statutory scheme adopted by the State of Virginia to prevent marriages between persons solely on the basis of racial classificationsviolates the Equal Protection and Due Process Clauses of the Fourteenth Amendment."

Loving v. Virginia | LII / Legal Information Institute

My apologies for not being more clear, but this claim: "Gay behavior is a choice."

Strictly speaking his exact words are correct - in fact all voluntary human sexual behavior is chosen. Attraction, perhaps so, perhaps not, but behavior, certainly.

Really? Releasing hormones is chosen? You, too, should cite your sources. Like this.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Race is a protected constitutional class. In fact we have a couple amendments because of it. Sexual orientation, not so much.

The only amendment that refers to race is the 15th. What makes race different from sexual orientation that it gets to be a protected class? There is no amendment to mark pregnancy as a protected class, but it is one. Is your argument really that the only difference is that the Supreme Court has recognized one and not the other? And how does that support any argument that sexual orientation shouldn't be protected?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Same reason the SCOTUS gave the first time when they upheld DOMA. All citizens (with certain legal exceptions) ARE able to enter onto marriage with the opposite sex. Sexual orientation is not a protected class.

Except that the majority opinion did mention the words "protected class." These bans were made to target and discriminate against this class, don't kid yourself.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Indeed it is, and as the court had previoously ruled upholding DOMA, gay marriage doesn't fall under that umbrella. Of course they appear to have changed their minds. Interesting and illuminating since the Constitution hasn't changed in the meantime. Could be why Jefferson and Madison were so insistent that the SCOTUS was never granted the power it took for themselves.


What SCOTUS case was this?


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Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Even though I am 100% against this degeneracy I voted 0-5 years I am guessing closer to 3 years or so. The south as usual will be the last to be forced to recognize more moral degeneracy and the rotting of this nations core even more.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Even though I am 100% against this degeneracy I voted 0-5 years I am guessing closer to 3 years or so. The south as usual will be the last to be forced to recognize more moral degeneracy and the rotting of this nations core even more.

and what facts make equal rights degeneracy again?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Recognizing degeneracy gives it a legal standing...people are already starting to accept polygamy and pedophilia as normal now as well...all part of the plan...the sooner this country collapses the better.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Recognizing degeneracy gives it a legal standing...people are already starting to accept polygamy and pedophilia as normal now as well...all part of the plan...the sooner this country collapses the better.

so ill ask again and what facts make equal rights degeneracy again?

also, anybody that relates equal rights to pedophilia is severely uneducated about the topic at hand and their posts are never to be taken serious again

nobody honest, educated and objective would ever fall for the illogical comparison of equal rights to child rape.

try to answer the question this time instead of dodging it.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Recognizing degeneracy gives it a legal standing...people are already starting to accept polygamy and pedophilia as normal now as well...all part of the plan...the sooner this country collapses the better.

Since most polygamists and pedos are heterosexual, i guess we know who to blame for that!

And what is it with equal rights in utah and oklahoma that has led to such treasonous comments as this? Are those states even more hopelessly extremist than i thought or what?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Even though I am 100% against this degeneracy I voted 0-5 years I am guessing closer to 3 years or so. The south as usual will be the last to be forced to recognize more moral degeneracy and the rotting of this nations core even more.

Nope, you'll be forced at the same time as the midwest and oregon - when SCOTUS pounds you into submission this summer.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

so ill ask again and what facts make equal rights degeneracy again?

also, anybody that relates equal rights to pedophilia is severely uneducated about the topic at hand and their posts are never to be taken serious again

nobody honest, educated and objective would ever fall for the illogical comparison of equal rights to child rape.

try to answer the question this time instead of dodging it.
Same people pushing for legalizing homosexuality in marriage are same ones pushing for legalizing and "normalizing" pedophilia.
Nope, you'll be forced at the same time as the midwest and oregon - when SCOTUS pounds you into submission this summer.

No. The STATES will be forced to accept this degeneracy. I will not be forced and they can't force me or anyone else to accept it,it just gives us better targets. Homos can blame the government when attacks on homos starts to increase. The federal government sticking its nose where it didn't belong is what brought about the 2nd american revolution and also brought about us southerners trying to save our nation when the government forced our kids to attend school with animals. Since I can't afford to move to Europe. Its time to move up my plan of buying acreage,fencing it off and staying the hell away from society...hell it might all fall apart and I won't even know it. Better that way. I moved my family to a lily white area for a reason and I stay in the bible belt for a reason even though I am an Atheist.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

1.)Same people pushing for legalizing homosexuality in marriage are same ones pushing for legalizing and "normalizing" pedophilia.


LMAO and there you have it the facts way to lose an equal rights discussion is to compare equal rights for gays to child rape.
This is the easiest way to guarantee that nobody honest, objective and educated will take your posts serious on this topic

posting that lie will never make it true

there are people that want christianity to be the nations religion and women to be second class citizens too, does that mean all christians want this? of course not because that would be a lie and failed strawman also.
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

Same people pushing for legalizing homosexuality in marriage are same ones pushing for legalizing and "normalizing" pedophilia.


No. The STATES will be forced to accept this degeneracy. I will not be forced and they can't force me or anyone else to accept it,it just gives us better targets. Homos can blame the government when attacks on homos starts to increase. The federal government sticking its nose where it didn't belong is what brought about the 2nd american revolution and also brought about us southerners trying to save our nation when the government forced our kids to attend school with animals. Since I can't afford to move to Europe. Its time to move up my plan of buying acreage,fencing it off and staying the hell away from society...hell it might all fall apart and I won't even know it. Better that way. I moved my family to a lily white area for a reason and I stay in the bible belt for a reason even though I am an Atheist.

You're never, never going to be happy in the USA. Somalians and Ethiopians can get to Europe and do well. Vietnamese and Panamanians can get to the US and do well. Indian Sikhs and Pakistanis can get to Canada and do well. What's your problem, fear?
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

1.) The STATES will be forced to accept this degeneracy.
2.) I will not be forced and they can't force me or anyone else to accept it
3.) it just gives us better targets.
4.) Homos can blame the government when attacks on homos starts to increase.
5.) The federal government sticking its nose where it didn't belong is what brought about the 2nd american revolution and also brought about us southerners trying to save our nation when the government forced our kids to attend school with animals.
6.) Since I can't afford to move to Europe.
7.) Its time to move up my plan of buying acreage,fencing it off and staying the hell away from society...hell it might all fall apart and I won't even know it. Better that way. I moved my family to a lily white area for a reason and I stay in the bible belt for a reason even though I am an Atheist.

1.) states have to protect freedom and equal rights, there is no degeneracy
2.) nobody is trying this, just like people dont accept woman and minorities as equals, your acceptance is not needed nor wanted. ANother failed strawman
3.) you are the target not people standing up for freedom and rights
4.) no, we(americans that support equal rights) will balme bigoted psychotic criminals and lock them up and laugh at how mentally retarded and stupid they are
5.) LMAO this is funny simply lets us know who you are, the target and losing demographic. Posting uneducated bigotry like this just exposes the logic behind your failed posts
6.) EUrope doesn't want these views either try russia
7.) a self made assylum? great idea beat them too it
 
Re: Equal rights/Same Sex Marriage how long until its a national reality?

LMAO and there you have it the facts way to lose an equal rights discussion is to compare equal rights for gays to child rape.
This is the easiest way to guarantee that nobody honest, objective and educated will take your posts serious on this topic

posting that lie will never make it true

there are people that want christianity to be the nations religion and women to be second class citizens too, does that mean all christians want this? of course not because that would be a lie and failed strawman also.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/.premium-1.555076
Why Jews Push Gay Marriage | Real Jew News
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...upreme-court-s-same-sex-marriage-rulings.html
Joe Biden: Jews led fight for homosexual marriage, open borders, feminism, and more

Need I say more? Easiest way to destroy a nation is to destroy its moral core. Easiest way to control the world is to make it one big degenerate place.
 
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