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What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?


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Quran clearly indicates that other faiths should be treated as pigs or dogs. Pigs and dogs unclean animals for Muslims, which have to be destroy. Man that was born a Muslim, but decided to change his religion should be killed. A Muslim can not and should not apply to the infidel as well as to a Muslim. All these provisions have in traditional Islam. But for 100 years as he comes to replace original Islam Wahhabi wing of Islam. Who claims that only Jihad allows Muslim called a Muslim.

Okay, but some have claimed that most of these extreme viewpoints have been moderated by most of the Muslim world, and that only the extremists take these passages literally. Similar to the Christian bible which also has some violent passages but normal practicing Christians wouldn't take those things in a literal sense.
 
What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

Release them? Try them? Leave them there indefinitely... forever?

Do we lose any alleged moral high ground by detaining then indefinitely? Should we care?

Trials and release for the innocent.
 
i say retry them and put the death penalty on the table for those convicted of serious enough offences, and then put the rest either into freedom, or into higher security facilities.
 
What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

Release them? Try them? Leave them there indefinitely... forever?

Do we lose any alleged moral high ground by detaining then indefinitely? Should we care?

My ideal scenario? Have an independent review panel authorized to review every case with all of the evidence and intelligence made accessible to them. Their goal should be to rapidly identify those whom we can clearly identify as hardened members of al-Qaeda and their affiliates, and those whom are fellow travelers or nearly innocent. Those whom fall into the latter category should be with all haste released or transferred to a power that can provide supervision. The remainder should be kept under guard at Guantanamo or some other facility outside the civilian penal system if that is more expeditious. I think it is important to keep this segregated and compartmentalized from our criminal justice system, this is not a police action it is a military action authorized by Congress. We should not blur the lines more than needed.
 
In a perfect world, they would have been tried more quickly. Now there's no chance of a real trial, and they've been held for a decade or more. It's time to close the facility and let them go.

I wasn't raised to believe I live in a country that keeps POWs indefinitely without trial. That country was Vietnam, and we sent Rambo to get them out. The reality is a lot messier. Still, it is not American to hold people indefinitely without trial. The lack of movement from the Obama administration on this issue is a real disappointment.
 
let them take care of each other

 
surely we have a wide enough list of charges to choose from,

A formal review process for dozens of men being held at Guantanamo Bay without charge has begun as part of an effort to close the prison, the Pentagon said Wednesday.

The U.S. has not yet said how many of the 164 prisoners now at Guantanamo will be reviewed. More than 80 have already been cleared for release or transfer but are still held either because of restrictions on releases imposed by Congress or because they are from Yemen, which is considered too unstable to take former prisoners.

The government previously said that about 46 prisoners are being held in indefinite detention under international law. That generally means they can be detained until hostilities end
Read more: Dozens of men held at Guantanamo Bay without charge to have cases reviewed: Pentagon  - NY Daily News
since this is perpetual war, that is a death sentence. Understood that Yemen is the current hot spot (AQAP), but if released we'll drone them.
We are pretty liberal with our defintion of "militants" there.
 
Detain them until the extremist factions which declared war on the US stop their war against us. If we are going to abide by LOAC then we should abide by LOAC. Any detained prisoners of war can be detained indefinately as long as the conflict is still ongoing.
 
What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

Release them? Try them? Leave them there indefinitely... forever?

Do we lose any alleged moral high ground by detaining then indefinitely? Should we care?

Release them to the authorities in those countries we found them in assuming we are no longer at war in that country.
 
Explain that to the wounded warriors returning from fighting against the great Jihad. War against the US is not a crime so they should remain POWs until the war on terror is over. The good part about fighting "independently" is that your homeland is not attacked but the bad part is that makes the war last forever.

First, there is no war. The "war" is a metaphor. Second, even going with this hypothetical war approach, there is no one to surrender and no discernible victory. So, in essence, what you want is a license for the US to lock up anyone it wants (with out any due process) for life.

Don't you just love people who live in America but prefer tyranny to freedom?
 
Quran clearly indicates that other faiths should be treated as pigs or dogs. Pigs and dogs unclean animals for Muslims, which have to be destroy. Man that was born a Muslim, but decided to change his religion should be killed. A Muslim can not and should not apply to the infidel as well as to a Muslim. All these provisions have in traditional Islam. But for 100 years as he comes to replace original Islam Wahhabi wing of Islam. Who claims that only Jihad allows Muslim called a Muslim.

....and I take it you know this having a first hand account the the Quran? Are you a scholar of the Quran? Have you read it at least once? Or, is this something you have heard and you are merely perpetuating myth, which in Christian circles is gossip and sin in the eyes of God (you know like bearing false witness or murder)?
 
The Democrat Party should treat them like illegal aliens and label them as undocumented Democrats.
 
Which GOP neo-con Senators have prevented the closure of GITMO using the Defense bill as blackmail ?
The Democrat Party should treat them like illegal aliens and label them as undocumented Democrats.
 
First, there is no war. The "war" is a metaphor. Second, even going with this hypothetical war approach, there is no one to surrender and no discernible victory. So, in essence, what you want is a license for the US to lock up anyone it wants (with out any due process) for life.

Don't you just love people who live in America but prefer tyranny to freedom?

I was thinking the same thing, nearly. There's a lot of closeted dictatorship support in the US apparently.
Somehow definitions got scrambled. If you invade a country are you allowed to call anyone resisting the invasion 'insurgents' or 'terrorists'? Smacks of dishonesty.
 
The Democrat Party should treat them like illegal aliens and label them as undocumented Democrats.

The Republican Party should call them unemployed lettuce-pickers and busboys.
 
The biggest problem is that if you try them in the USA, they will be found not guilty because any evidence obtained by torture is not admissible in Court. That would translate to the release of Khalid Sheik Mohammad who allegedly was one of the planners of the WTC attacks. Then there is "fruit of a tainted tree" where any other evidence tied to that would not be admitted. Almost all would go free. That is why the US wants trial by Military Tribunal. Talk about slippery slopes, eh?
 
The Republican Party should call them unemployed lettuce-pickers and busboys.

They aren't short enough to be productive lettuce pickers and you would see labor problems if they were busboys where sausage and bacon were served for breakfast.

Maybe 7/11 clerks and taxi drivers.
 
What should we do with the Guantanamo prisoners?

Release them? Try them? Leave them there indefinitely... forever?

Do we lose any alleged moral high ground by detaining then indefinitely? Should we care?
Kill them. Except for the ones that you could glean any valuable intelligence from. Detain those indefinitely.

If you just let them go there is too much risk. It's been shown that a significant number of them go right back to war against the USA even after being subjected to the best deprogramming methods known to medical science when we tried that.

If you put them into regular prisons in the US, then they could brainwash and radicalize the multitude of violent black Muslims in our domestic prison system. Many of whom will eventually be walking the streets in the USA. Never forget that Al Qaeda's roots are in the Egyptian prison system. And ours isn't really that much different. Don't want them to take root here. Fight them over there instead.
 
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Okay, but some have claimed that most of these extreme viewpoints have been moderated by most of the Muslim world, and that only the extremists take these passages literally. Similar to the Christian bible which also has some violent passages but normal practicing Christians wouldn't take those things in a literal sense.

Where in the Bible, "kill your son if he does not believe in the same god as you"? Where in the Bible, "where set foot a Muslim, this land belongs to Islam"? No need to compare the incomparable. And the vast majority of Muslims wholeheartedly support those provisions of their religion. And none of them does condemn Muslim terrorism.
 
They aren't short enough to be productive lettuce pickers and you would see labor problems if they were busboys where sausage and bacon were served for breakfast.

Maybe 7/11 clerks and taxi drivers.

Only in the Arab world, 60% of young people are unemployed. They did not and do not want to work, but to fight against the infidels.
 
Where in the Bible, "kill your son if he does not believe in the same god as you"? Where in the Bible, "where set foot a Muslim, this land belongs to Islam"? No need to compare the incomparable. And the vast majority of Muslims wholeheartedly support those provisions of their religion. And none of them does condemn Muslim terrorism.

Here are some.

Ezekiel 9:6 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women . . . "

Isaiah 13:16 "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."

Deuteronomy 13:15 "Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly . . . "

Leviticus 20:9 "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death . . . "

Exodus 32:27 ". . . Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

Deut 21:10-12 "When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; "

Exodus 31:15 " . . . whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death."

Deut 21:21 "And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die . . . "
 
....and I take it you know this having a first hand account the the Quran? Are you a scholar of the Quran? Have you read it at least once? Or, is this something you have heard and you are merely perpetuating myth, which in Christian circles is gossip and sin in the eyes of God (you know like bearing false witness or murder)?
I have a fairly large library. There's a Bible, the Gospel, the Koran, the Book of Changes, the Mahabharata.
However, the translation. I do not speak Arabic.
 
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