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Are you going to get health insurance?

Are you going to get health insurance because Obamacare mandates it?


  • Total voters
    34
300 million people with 300 million ideas cannot possibly be a good thing. More can be accomplished when people work together such as the examples that you sighted. When a bunch of selfish whiney babies do whatever the want to, it will never yield the results of concerted efforts of people working together to end prohibition, to integrate society or to abolish slavery.

It's not the same thing at all. 300 million people doing their own thing is not the same as 10 million fighting for one cause, 10 million fighting for another cause, so on and so forth. Individualism is the theme of today. Nothing can ever be accomplished with this widespread mentality.

Oh come now, what do you think I'm advocating here? Do you think that I am advocating that 300 million people ignore all laws in order to "do their own thing"? Or 300 million people ignoring one law (as a form of protest that has been used in the past) that goes against the spirit of our Constitution? A law that was created by a few people who ignored the fact that a majority of those 300 million people were against the mandate from the begining and still are.

All other avenues were used to try and get rid of the mandate in Obamacare. People went through the courts, the courts ultimately ended up calling it a tax when EVERYONE knows damn well its not. People have tried to get it repealed over 40 times since it was enacted. Failed every time. The only other recourse left to The People is to protest in the same form that thousands of others protested laws in the past. Ignore the law in question.
 
Oh come now, what do you think I'm advocating here? Do you think that I am advocating that 300 million people ignore all laws in order to "do their own thing"? Or 300 million people ignoring one law (as a form of protest that has been used in the past) that goes against the spirit of our Constitution?

I don't know which one you are advocating. I know which one is happening. Surely you see a difference between fighting against something that is oppressive and something that is designed to improve our country. People aren't fighting against the health care law to stand up for liberty and the American ideal. They are rebelling against the law to save $300 in mandatory government purchases or a tax(according to the supreme court). These people aren't going to organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight against health insurance. People will organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight things like the right for gay marriage. Mandatory health insurance is an economic issue not an act to oppress a certain class of citizens or to restrict someone's right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

Stop being so dramatic about this. Nobody will organize over this. It just isn't going to happen.
 
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All other avenues were used to try and get rid of the mandate in Obamacare. People went through the courts, the courts ultimately ended up calling it a tax when EVERYONE knows damn well its not. People have tried to get it repealed over 40 times since it was enacted. Failed every time. The only other recourse left to The People is to protest in the same form that thousands of others protested laws in the past. Ignore the law in question.

Well, at least among the people who bothered to respond to your poll the individual mandate appears to be a non-factor in their decision-making. That level of indifference would seem to undermine some of the more dramatic and inflammatory rhetoric about the mandate.

Anyway, your poll didn't ask folks to specify but I imagine that most of the people answering "no" are not saying they're deciding to go uninsured as some kind of protest, they're saying that other factors dominated their decision to carry insurance next year (I count myself in this group).
 
I already have it, but if I didn't, I wouldn't. I'd rather pay the fine than something that I don't need or want. Screw Obamacare.
 
I already have it, but if I didn't, I wouldn't. I'd rather pay the fine than something that I don't need or want. Screw Obamacare.

If you don't need or want it, why do you have it?
 
The law doesn't require using the website. Don't be so dramatic.

:shrug: no drama - the website is known to be insecure. And you have to go through the website if you don't want to have to pay the inflated prices.
 
You are a no. The question implies you are submitting to the law against your will. Your purchase of health insurance seems to be a coincidence. You have to read the OP carefully it doesn't say because Obama says so. It says because Obamacare says so. This was a law passed by the majority of congress, the majority of the senate, signed by the president, upheld by the constitution and it was tested in the state of Massachusetts under the leadership of Mitt Romney. The OP is a little misleading.

It should read, "Are you going to get health insurance because the Affordable Care Act requires it?" or "Are you going to be buying health insurance simply because it is required by law?" or "Are you buying health insurance because of an idea introduced by Mitt Romney?"

That's why I asked since the OP question was not clear to me and I'm trying to participate in a useful manner. Once the question was clarified, I answered it correctly and honestly.
 
I think health insurance is a huge scam. I already signed up for health insurance for the first time in my life. My policy takes effect January 1, 2014. I do think it is important to obey the law. Our leaders make decisions with the best interest of the country at heart. Even a bad plan works better when we all do the thing we are supposed to do.

Yes. I will get health insurance just because Obamacare mandates it. You bet. Working together as Americans is a patriotic thing to do. Just because I disagree with it, don't understand it or have a better idea doesn't mean I should sabotage my country. That's a very destructive mentality to have. Great empires always collapse from within. It doesn't bother me too much when we have dissenting opinions. It does break my heart when people refuse to do the patriotic thing just because it's inconvenient or too costly. Be an American. Obey the law. The more no's that I see in this poll, the sadder I get.

Did I mention that I believe all insurance salesman should be tortured 18 hours a day for 20 years and then be released on the condition that they stop being disgusting scam artist? I hate health insurance with a burning passion in my belly but I bought a policy to comply with the law.

Make sense? I don't have to get my way all the time. There is such thing as being a grown up.
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If you don't need or want it, why do you have it?

I meant that if I didn't have it, clearly I didn't want it or I'd have it, therefore... you get the idea. There are lots of people out there who neither have it nor need it and therefore aren't going to buy it from Obamacare.

Me, I get it from work and don't need Obamacare either.
 
I don't know which one you are advocating. I know which one is happening. Surely you see a difference between fighting against something that is oppressive and something that is designed to improve our country. People aren't fighting against the health care law to stand up for liberty and the American ideal. They are rebelling against the law to save $300 in mandatory government purchases or a tax(according to the supreme court). These people aren't going to organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight against health insurance. People will organize, risk their fortunes, risk their liberty and risk their life to fight things like the right for gay marriage. Mandatory health insurance is an economic issue not an act to oppress a certain class of citizens or to restrict someone's right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

Stop being so dramatic about this. Nobody will organize over this. It just isn't going to happen.

Dramatic? lol that is funny. But seriously, who says people need to actually organize for this? The biggest reason that prohibition got repealed was due to two things. Wide spread ignoring of the law by individuals...including cops and mayors and such, and jury nullification. Very few people actually organized to get it repealed.

In otherwords people do not have to organize to have their voices heard.
 
I have health insurance. I like my policy (there's a difference between like and love). I was allowed to keep what I have.

If I were uninsured I would take advantage of new options.
 
On the plus side, it is reported that an aide to the president may or may not have signed him (not his family) up for the 400 a month bronze plan that he will never pay for nor use.

There are a whooooooooooooole lot of people that are in the 'not' category-especially in the younger category. They would rather pay the fine to NOT HAVE TO have the insurance they clamored for and blindly supported. There are another ton that signed up and have had all their data dumped and will have to start over. Then there is the vast majority that logged in and created an account but havent actually signed up for (and paid for) the ACA.
 
Are you going to get health insurance just because Obamacare mandates it? A simple yes or no question.

I voted yes but probably should have voted no as I have never been without
 
I'm getting health care because I need it.

I think health insurance is a huge scam. I already signed up for health insurance for the first time in my life. My policy takes effect January 1, 2014. I do think it is important to obey the law. Our leaders make decisions with the best interest of the country at heart. Even a bad plan works better when we all do the thing we are supposed to do.

Yes. I will get health insurance just because Obamacare mandates it. You bet. Working together as Americans is a patriotic thing to do. Just because I disagree with it, don't understand it or have a better idea doesn't mean I should sabotage my country. That's a very destructive mentality to have. Great empires always collapse from within. It doesn't bother me too much when we have dissenting opinions. It does break my heart when people refuse to do the patriotic thing just because it's inconvenient or too costly. Be an American. Obey the law. The more no's that I see in this poll, the sadder I get.

Did I mention that I believe all insurance salesman should be tortured 18 hours a day for 20 years and then be released on the condition that they stop being disgusting scam artist? I hate health insurance with a burning passion in my belly but I bought a policy to comply with the law.

Make sense? I don't have to get my way all the time. There is such thing as being a grown up.

Impressive sentiment.
 
I'm getting health care because I need it.

Why didn't you need it before January 1, 2014?

I have heard it said, "Usually we have a choice between bad and worse. In that case we should choose bad."
 
That's why I asked since the OP question was not clear to me and I'm trying to participate in a useful manner. Once the question was clarified, I answered it correctly and honestly.

Why do you need health insurance all of a sudden? Why didn't you need it last year, the year before that or the year before that? so on and so forth?
 
As long as emergency rooms are forced to treat everyone, everyone needs to have health coverage or the rest of us end up paying their bill....at the most expensive place possible and often after health conditions are so far advanced treatment is through the roof expensive and the patients' quality of life might be permanently degraded.
 
Why didn't you need it before January 1, 2014?

I have heard it said, "Usually we have a choice between bad and worse. In that case we should choose bad."

Because I already had it through my university (through a post-graduation extension). That agreement expires this month, so now its the exchanges.
 
Why do you need health insurance all of a sudden? Why didn't you need it last year, the year before that or the year before that? so on and so forth?

The clarification I asked for had to do with the "Obamacare" motivation. Once clarified, I was able to answer the question honestly.

I have no idea why you think I didn't need or want insurance in the past. In multiple discussions, I've been honest enough to reveal that I'm on Medicare. Thus, I would have insurance even if I didn't want it.

Once you turn 65, unless you're incredibly stupid and self-destructive, you sign up for Medicare with one phone call. Medicare is a straight 80/20 "plan". Most Medicare recipients tend to upgrade to Medicare Advantage or Medicare supplement. This gets rid of the open-ended liability of 80/20 and may include Part D, prescription drugs, which comes with the Advantage Plans and must be bought separately in the Supplement plans.

I've also mentioned in many of these discussions that I got insurance when I was 55. So, for the first part of my life, I took my chances, paid cash as I went.

Maybe you're confusing me with another poster?
 
Yes. I'm confused but I did not confuse you with another poster.

OK. Maybe you just confused this poster (me).

What should I have said instead? Was my request for clarification unreasonable? It wasn't intended that way but you know, I'm old, I'm ditzy. If you'you'll explain my error, please know that I'll appreciate it. It wasn't my intention to be difficult so help me out. Thanks.
 
Why do you need health insurance all of a sudden? Why didn't you need it last year, the year before that or the year before that? so on and so forth?

Here is the OP:

Are you going to get health insurance just because Obamacare mandates it? A simple yes or no question.

So, YES I got health insurance and NO I didn't get it because of Obamacare. So, the answer - to be accurate - needed clarification. Then, I was able to say NO (because Obamacare wasn't my motivation) and YES, I got health insurance just as I have for the last 15 years or so.

Are we all cleared up now:)?
 
Here is the OP:

Are you going to get health insurance just because Obamacare mandates it? A simple yes or no question.

So, YES I got health insurance and NO I didn't get it because of Obamacare. So, the answer - to be accurate - needed clarification. Then, I was able to say NO (because Obamacare wasn't my motivation) and YES, I got health insurance just as I have for the last 15 years or so.

Are we all cleared up now:)?

Yes. I know what you mean. It just seems to me the results to this poll are going to be very skewed. I think his target audience was people without insurance.

The yes answers would indicate people who bought insurance in order to comply with the law. The no answers would indicate people who still won't buy insurance even though the Affordable Care Act requires it. If all of those no answers are from people who have had insurance for years then the poll makes absolutely no sense to me.

Perhaps this poll needs to be redone. Maybe it's not as simple as yes or no. Perhaps this was his intent but I don't see what insight he gathered if the no answers are so widely diverse in character.
 
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