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Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Why?

Which radical fringe organization is worse? Why?


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We all have heard how radical the Tea Party is and how out of touch they are with reality. So how do the compare with the radical left organization calling themselves the Weather Underground formed in Ann Arbor from the SDS. The Weather Underground seemed pretty much out there and used violence to make their point. Please state your opinion.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

If the weather underground group has used violence I would have to say them. As much as I may dislike their message, I've personally never heard of the Tea party utilizing organized violence of any kind.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

We all have heard how radical the Tea Party is and how out of touch they are with reality. So how do the compare with the radical left organization calling themselves the Weather Underground formed in Ann Arbor from the SDS. The Weather Underground seemed pretty much out there and used violence to make their point. Please state your opinion.

You finally accept that the Tea Party is a radical group of people?
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

I'm just not sure what is so radical and fringe about the idea of downsizing government, and reducing the power of the feds. Maybe it's just me ;).
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

You finally accept that the Tea Party is a radical group of people?

anything left or right of center will always be considered radical. I am surprised you voted the for the group that has NEVER blown up any government buildings or killed anyone. How can you justify that thinking?
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Since the Weather Underground is no longer around the Tea Party.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

We all have heard how radical the Tea Party is and how out of touch they are with reality. So how do the compare with the radical left organization calling themselves the Weather Underground formed in Ann Arbor from the SDS. The Weather Underground seemed pretty much out there and used violence to make their point. Please state your opinion.

Practically? The Weather Underground never had much influence or impact beyond the shock value of its bombings so I think the comparison is a little unfair.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

I'm just not sure what is so radical and fringe about the idea of downsizing government, and reducing the power of the feds. Maybe it's just me ;).

Ask a liberal, they will tell the Tea Party is nothing but older white racist pigs among other things
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Since the Weather Underground is no longer around the Tea Party.

So every member of the weather underground is dead? lie much?
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Let's see, if we're going to compare a political movement started in 2009 with a terrorist organization which has been defunct for nearly 40 years, perhaps we should also compare the left-wing PETA to the right-wing 1920's KKK. Makes as much sense.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Let's see, if we're going to compare a political movement started in 2009 with a terrorist organization which has been defunct for nearly 40 years, perhaps we should also compare the left-wing PETA to the right-wing 1920's KKK. Makes as much sense.

Ah deflection, congrats for being the first one
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

So every member of the weather underground is dead? lie much?

The weather underground as a organization does not exist anymore. Most of the members have been to prison and been successfully reintegrated into society. Most also speak out against their actions. They are no longer active as an organization. So no i dont "lie much".
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Ah deflection, congrats for being the first one

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Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

The weather underground as a organization does not exist anymore. Most of the members have been to prison and been successfully reintegrated into society. Most also speak out against their actions. They are no longer active as an organization. So no i dont "lie much".

So you are saying that since the movement is dead that it really can't exist and there is no reprecussions from that movement?
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

So you are saying that since the movement is dead that it really can't exist and there is no reprecussions from that movement?
Reprecussions? They really didnt accomplish much... I mean they never gained power. So yes there are little to no represcussions from the Weather Underground movement.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Reprecussions? They really didnt accomplish much... I mean they never gained power. So yes there are little to no represcussions from the Weather Underground movement.

So much like slavery, it is old news?
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

So much like slavery, it is old news?
Was slavery ever policy of the land? Yes.
Was the weathermen ever come to power and put into place in policy? No.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Was slavery ever policy of the land? Yes.
Was the weathermen ever come to power and put into place in policy? No.

slavery wasn't policy everywhere and not everyone owned slaves, so that would be no to both questions
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

The Weather underground has bombed buildings, so they would have to be the worst. But they don't exist anymore.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

The Weather underground has bombed buildings, so they would have to be the worst. But they don't exist anymore.

I would agree, but I would add a caveat. The Weather Underground epitomized the ineffectiveness of the post-'68 SDS, and effectively dragged the SDS brand down enough that the WU appeared to be a separate entity from the SDS, eventually becoming utterly irrelevant. So on one hand, you couldn't say that the post-68 SDS was the Hayden-Gitlin group anymore, nor could you quite say it was the WU. The SDS at that point had embraced violent revolution as a concept after '68, but the WU became the brand that people recognized. The SDS just evaporated from effectiveness, while the WU dragged the neo-Marxist revolution down to such an extent as to make Nixon and mainstream Democrats utterly favorable.

The Tea Party was at the very least partially-effective in: 1) creating a political coalition with support at the governing level 2) Creating public support 3) Having more than a dozen explicit members 4) Not hunted by all major authority figures 5) Not doing drugs 6) Maintaining some semblance of reality.

So if in terms of effectiveness=good, the Tea Party is leaps and bounds ahead of the WU. However, if you are figuring in terms of political danger=bad, then the Tea Party's effectiveness is more of a sign of worry for its political opponents than the WU was for its political opponents (because most groups were opposed to WU).
 
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Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Ask a liberal, they will tell the Tea Party is nothing but older white racist pigs among other things

I see an exaggerated mob with little acceptance for politics, and an over-exaggerated sense of the virtues of the masses. I favor conservative (big government flavor) elitism over populist "conservative" democrats (small "d"). Of course, I take bits and pieces of each message to mold my own politics, but this is my own orientation.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Obviously the Weather Underground. Several bombings were carried out by the group, for things such as commemorating the Chinese Revolution and showing solidarity with Allende. They were so radical that the Black Panthers wanted nothing to do with them. They had no plan; they would run at police unarmed with no objective. Whether you disagree or agree with the Tea Party, they have never used violence against innocent people and private property.

The Weather Underground epitomized the ineffectiveness of the post-'68 SDS, and effectively dragged the SDS brand down enough that the WU appeared to be a separate entity from the SDS, eventually becoming utterly irrelevant.

Yeah. The Underground crushed the name of the SDS, as the radicals within the SDS who became 'frustrated' with the peaceful protests of the SDS basically destroyed the SDS's reputation by carrying out acts that, on the surface to the public, seemed to have been ordered by SDS leadership.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

anything left or right of center will always be considered radical. I am surprised you voted the for the group that has NEVER blown up any government buildings or killed anyone. How can you justify that thinking?

Timothy McVeigh would have LOVED the Tea Party.
 
Re: Which is radical fringe is worse? The Weather Underground or the Tea Party? Wh

Timothy McVeigh would have LOVED the Tea Party.

Why? Is this simply an appeal to probability (logical) fallacy or do you have any substantive, written evidence?
 
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