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2016 Republican Primary

REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 16 20.0%

  • Rick Perry

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 11 13.8%

  • Paul Ryan

    Votes: 4 5.0%

  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Total voters
    80
Navy Pride said:
I think its to early to say.
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Read my first sentence in there.

I'm just wondering who you all favor at this time so far.

I'm not asking who you think will win. I'm asking who you like the most. THAT isn't too early to say - who your favorites are right now.
 
haymarket said:
The far right needs to unite on one extremist whacko and back him to the hilt. either that or divide up the primaries where they do not compete against each other.

fat chance of a bunch of true believer nut jobs agreeing on either.
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Neither someone from the far right or left can be elected.....Clinton and Obama fooled the voters into believing they were moderates when in fact they were and are as far left as you can get.
 
clownboy said:
Heh, by defining the repubs you also defined the dems, their opposition. I'm aware you didn't see it, but as Freud indicates, your slip is showing. :mrgreen:
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I have no idea what you are babbling about. My post DID NOT mention democrats in any way shape or form.
 
Tothian said:
Read my first sentence in there.

I'm just wondering who you all favor at this time so far.

I'm not asking who you think will win. I'm asking who you like the most. THAT isn't too early to say - who your favorites are right now.
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That is just it my friend, at this point I don't have a favorite. to a degree I like all of them.
 
Navy Pride said:
Neither someone from the far right or left can be elected.....Clinton and Obama fooled the voters into believing they were moderates when in fact they were and are as far left as you can get.
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Clinton was a member of the DLC, a conservative Democratic organization. He wasn't liberal and governed more like a centralist. He was to the right of both Bush's when it comes to governance. Clinton while taxing the rich on one hand, he supported NAFTA, WTO, the Telecommunications Act, and so-called Welfare Reform on the other.
 
Anagram said:
No it doesn't. Just because they failed does not mean someone else would've done better.


Huckabee had his flaws. The social issues he ran on don't play well with the national audience. I doubt he would've done better than McCain.



There was more than the unpopularity of Bush. Obama ran a great campaign in 2008, unlike Rory Reid. The fact that Sandoval also got to run directly against the unpopularity in the primary also helped, which no one in 2008 was able to do. He also ran in a Republican wave year, rather than the Democratic wave year of 2008. Of those running, none would've beaten him or likely done better than McCain.



Electability is important. It shouldn't be the only thing by any means, but it should definitely factor in.
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1- Yes it does mean that. There are others who would've done worse. There are others who would have done better. There is no denying that.

2- Then the national audience is wrong. He shouldn't have to be wrong like the liberals in order to win. Huckabee should have instead educated the public on why the ideals he supports are right.

3- I still disagree, but there's no way to tell.

4- Using words like "Electability" or acting like it's important - means you have no real opinions of your own - and no confidence that you'll be able to convince people of the truth. People like you just go with the flow. Is that the sort of mindset you like having?
 
Tothian said:
Thompson was a Governor for 14 years - before being the Health & Human Services Secretary for 4 years. He actually just lost a Senate race in Wisconsin in 2012 - a race in which he had originally been leading his opponent.
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I forgot about him, I'm sorry I meant FRED Thompson, not Tommy.
 
Keep in mind that North Carolina's voter ID law doesn't take effect until 2016, after court in 2015..
It's all the other trickie dickie 21st Century schizoid "jim crow" laws that have Kay Hagan as a big underdog in my book..
Evening Pero .
Perotista said:
Clinton was a member of the DLC, a conservative Democratic organization. He wasn't liberal and governed more like a centralist. He was to the right of both Bush's when it comes to governance. Clinton while taxing the rich on one hand, he supported NAFTA, WTO, the Telecommunications Act, and so-called Welfare Reform on the other.
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haymarket said:
I have no idea what you are babbling about. My post DID NOT mention democrats in any way shape or form.
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Heh, there's always one guy in the room who doesn't get the joke. Guess this time it's you.
 
NIMBY said:
Keep in mind that North Carolina's voter ID law doesn't take effect until 2016, after court in 2015..
It's all the other trickie dickie 21st Century schizoid "jim crow" laws that have Kay Hagan as a big underdog in my book..
Evening Pero .
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Howdy Linc, I don't see Hagan as a big underdog although she blew a 14 point lead in the polls and is now down by 2 since 1 November. But I wonder how much of that was because of the ACA. North Carolina is moving towards purple and is a couple of years behind Virginia which seems to becoming more like Maryland than a state of the south.

PPP just released a poll on Kentucky, McConnell is up by only one point over Grimes, 43-42. If Bevins gives him a hard time in the primary I wouldn't be surprised to see Grimes win. Kentucky may become another example of a Tea Party Candidate costing the Republicans another senate seat. Time will tell. But I am still say McConnell will win for the time being.
 
45 voted.

Rand Paul 26%
Jon Huntsman 20%
Chris Christie 17%
Ted Cruz 11%
Mike Huckabee 2%
Rick Perry 2%
Paul Ryan 2%
Rob Portman 2%
 
will you please tell me something, why does someone has yourself, a democrat, who throws fireballs at republicans and their ideas, seek to name the republican party candidate, ..why do you care?

as i said before obama, and his policies and obamacare, have damaged the democrat party, and democrats want to steer republicans to moderate to liberal candidates to negate any chance turn around of liberal polices.

if Cruz or Paul where to become president, and, ..liberals know those two will kill obamacare if they get the chance, while the liberals choice of republicans, chiriste and huntsman , are not so sure.

liberals live in fear, if republicans take over our government in 2014, obama will get nothing his last 2 years out of congress, and in 2016 if in power.....they will kill obamacare, and make obama's presidency, it crowning achievement a thing of the past.
 
If you can't win elections fairly, change the rules..
This is what the GOPees have done across the Country, especially in states that turned RED in 2010..
Perotista said:
Howdy Linc, I don't see Hagan as a big underdog although she blew a 14 point lead in the polls and is now down by 2 since 1 November. But I wonder how much of that was because of the ACA. North Carolina is moving towards purple and is a couple of years behind Virginia which seems to becoming more like Maryland than a state of the south. [
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Virginia yes, North Carolina no, not without a sweeping ground-game from the Dems .

PPP just released a poll on Kentucky, McConnell is up by only one point over Grimes, 43-42. If Bevins gives him a hard time in the primary I wouldn't be surprised to see Grimes win. Kentucky may become another example of a Tea Party Candidate costing the Republicans another senate seat. Time will tell. But I am still say McConnell will win for the time being.
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McConnell today came out against a "clean" debt ceiling and voted no on Ryan's "deal", tacking back to the right-ists .
 
ernst barkmann said:
will you please tell me something, why does someone has yourself, a democrat, who throws fireballs at republicans and their ideas, seek to name the republican party candidate, ..why do you care?
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I will vote for Christie in Illinois' primary if he is not taken down down by "bridge-gates" or Mob-links .
 
NIMBY said:
I will vote for Christie in Illinois' primary if he is not taken down down by "bridge-gates" or Mob-links .
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what does this tell me?

it tells me, your wanting a moderate to liberal candidate for the republican party.

and the republican party has not been able to win with that kind of candidate......

so all democrats, who they believe they know who the republican party should nominate are only trying to move the republicans more left.
 
NIMBY said:
I will vote for Christie in Illinois' primary if he is not taken down down by "bridge-gates" or Mob-links .
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I'm not sure why they closed down the bridge, but this reminds me of an Obama scandal in that the guy at the top knew nothing but his cronies messed up. It is just Democrats' adopting Republican tactics. I didn't ever think fast and furious would cause Obama to lose reelection, nor will this prevent Christie from winning. It is a pockmark on his career but what politician does not have those.
 
One man's moderate RINO is another man's sane and normal GOP pol .
ernst barkmann said:
what does this tell me?

it tells me, your wanting a moderate to liberal candidate for the republican party.

and the republican party has not been able to win with that kind of candidate......

so all democrats, who they believe they know who the republican party should nominate are only trying to move the republicans more left.
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Durin said:
I'm not sure why they closed down the bridge, but this reminds me of an Obama scandal
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I stopped reading here after you brought in Obama Derangement Syndrome .
 
NIMBY said:
One man's moderate RINO is another man's sane and normal GOP pol .
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i have to laugh at what you said NIMBY, becuase it confirms what i said.

your seeking to have probability Hillery on one side, a liberal, ......and Christie on the other a moderate to liberal on the other.

this way you will both ways.

and the republican party will be negated as usual.
 
NIMBY said:
If you can't win elections fairly, change the rules..
This is what the GOPees have done across the Country, especially in states that turned RED in 2010..
Virginia yes, North Carolina no, not without a sweeping ground-game from the Dems .



McConnell today came out against a "clean" debt ceiling and voted no on Ryan's "deal", tacking back to the right-ists .
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McConnell is my second least liked senator in Washington. Reid is still number one or 100 however you look at it. Both are partisan hacks who put their political party way above country. My best scenario for 2014, my wish against all odds is McConnell loses and the Republicans win the senate thus casting Reid to a back bench. He can't lose his seat until 2018, but this would get him away from being a majority leader which is a step in the right direction.

I listen to an interview of Joe Manchin earlier today, he reminds me so much of Sam Nunn. He could be my senator any day. Now the Democrats could keep the senate if they made Joe majority leader IMO.
 
Tell me how you're going to stop the "split the whacko vote" scenario, ernst .
ernst barkmann said:
i have to laugh at what you said NIMBY, becuase it confirms what i said.

your seeking to have probability Hillery on one side, a liberal, ......and Christie on the other a moderate to liberal on the other.

this way you will both ways.

and the republican party will be negated as usual.
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NIMBY said:
Tell me how you're going to stop the "split the whacko vote" scenario, ernst .
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i not going to do anything...i am a libertarian, and until i get someone who expresses constitutional limited government... i am out of the president election system.

i do not vote for people who want to keep the big government machine, growing bigger, and consuming more power in the personal life's of the people.
 
Perotista said:
McConnell is my second least liked senator in Washington. Reid is still number one or 100 however you look at it. Both are partisan hacks who put their political party way above country. My best scenario for 2014, my wish against all odds is McConnell loses and the Republicans win the senate thus casting Reid to a back bench. He can't lose his seat until 2018, but this would get him away from being a majority leader which is a step in the right direction.
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You mention your love for Reid, but E. Warren grows more powerful each day..

I listen to an interview of Joe Manchin earlier today, he reminds me so much of Sam Nunn. He could be my senator any day. Now the Democrats could keep the senate if they made Joe majority leader IMO.
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I hear you praise Manchin, yet he co-sponsored Toomey/Manchin, since it sells well in WV..
Since we'll both be skinned alive if we are "common-sense" on guns, I'll move on .
 
If I was truly an asshole, I wouldn't try to get you to support a "normal" GOP..
I see no Democrats I want to vote for in 2016 yet..
I also believe another Dem POTUS will just be stymied by the GOP House of NO, hurting the Nation .
ernst barkmann said:
i not going to do anything...i am a libertarian, and until i get someone who expresses constitutional limited government... i am out of the president election system.

i do not vote for people who want to keep the big government machine, growing bigger, and consuming more power in the personal life's of the people.
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NIMBY said:
If I was truly an asshole, I wouldn't try to get you to support a "normal" GOP..
I see no Democrats I want to vote for in 2016 yet..
I also believe another Dem POTUS will just be stymied by the GOP House of NO, hurting the Nation .
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the GOP is not likely only to nominate a libertarian candidate, so i see me supporting no one in 2016.

i will never understand this party of "no" stuff.....the congress is not suppose to yield to the president , on anything he wants.

the congress, is suppose to have slow, deliberated debates on legislation, and that legislation is suppose to be int he interest of the people.... and the interest of the states.

legislation was never intended to fly through congress without being read....."because people thinks it the right thing to do"
 
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