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2016 Republican Primary

REPUBLICANS ONLY PLEASE- YOUR TOP CHOICE FOR 2016 REPUBLICAN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT

  • Ted Cruz

    Votes: 8 10.0%

  • Rand Paul

    Votes: 23 28.8%

  • Marco Rubio

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 16 20.0%

  • Rick Perry

    Votes: 2 2.5%

  • Rick Santorum

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Jon Huntsman

    Votes: 11 13.8%

  • Paul Ryan

    Votes: 4 5.0%

  • Other (Please specify)

    Votes: 12 15.0%
  • Total voters
    80
Puigb said:
If stupid people were prevented from voting, the Republican party would quickly disappear into oblivion.
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You might want to do some researching. Most of the uneducated vote the Democrat ticket.

In fact if the poorly educated weren't allowed to vote, the Democrat Party wouldn't disappear into obivion, they just wouldn't win to many elections.

>"Pew’s new study echoes the results of many other reports and studies that show GOP supporters are better educated, more empathetic and more open to criticism than Democrats."<

Read more: Surveys: Republicans more open-minded, better informed than Democrats | The Daily Caller

Then there is how Obama got elected and reelected. Uninformed and misinformed voters.

Are Republicans better informed than Democrats? A Pew survey of basic politics and history paints Democrats in a pretty unflattering light. What happened to all those liberal elites?

>" The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press recently posted the results of a survey on political knowledge, broken out by age, education level, gender, and perhaps most intriguingly, political affiliation. Not only did "Republicans fare substantially better than Democrats on several questions in the survey," Pew says, but that's "typically the case in surveys about political knowledge."..."<

Are Republicans better informed than Democrats? - The Week


FACT: Republicans Have Higher Level Of Education and Have Higher IQ's Than Democrats

LiveLeak.com - FACT: Republicans Have Higher Level Of Education and Have Higher IQ's Than Democrats
 
APACHERAT said:
You might want to do some researching. Most of the uneducated vote the Democrat ticket.

In fact if the poorly educated weren't allowed to vote, the Democrat Party wouldn't disappear into obivion, they just wouldn't win to many elections.

>"Pew’s new study echoes the results of many other reports and studies that show GOP supporters are better educated, more empathetic and more open to criticism than Democrats."<

Read more: Surveys: Republicans more open-minded, better informed than Democrats | The Daily Caller

Then there is how Obama got elected and reelected. Uninformed and misinformed voters.

Are Republicans better informed than Democrats? A Pew survey of basic politics and history paints Democrats in a pretty unflattering light. What happened to all those liberal elites?

>" The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press recently posted the results of a survey on political knowledge, broken out by age, education level, gender, and perhaps most intriguingly, political affiliation. Not only did "Republicans fare substantially better than Democrats on several questions in the survey," Pew says, but that's "typically the case in surveys about political knowledge."..."<

Are Republicans better informed than Democrats? - The Week


FACT: Republicans Have Higher Level Of Education and Have Higher IQ's Than Democrats

LiveLeak.com - FACT: Republicans Have Higher Level Of Education and Have Higher IQ's Than Democrats
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Your idea of a legitimate source is just brutal.
 
Kobie said:
You could also see what could happen if the old folks couldn't see who they were voting for.

Even YOU have to admit, that's a pretty bad ballot.
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Like I already said, if you weren't paying attention, you could have found yourself voting for someone who was highly qualified for President and who might have saved America.

In California where they have voter initiatives on the ballot, not to long ago and there are some DP members from California who remember. You went to the polls and the way the initiative was worded on the ballot if you voted yes for an initiative it was actually voting no. If you voted no, it was counted as a yes vote. I #### you not.

It wouldn't surprise in forty years from now when you go to the polls you will be punching a hole next to the photo of the candidate. Don't they do that in many third world countries today ?
 
Kobie said:
Your idea of a legitimate source is just brutal.
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I only used Pew because most people except Pew's findings.

What would you consider as a legitimate source ?

When I use exiting pollings on election day it really shows how Obama got elected, uninformed voters. And libs don't like the polling results.
Media Malpractice Polling Research
 
APACHERAT said:
Like I already said, if you weren't paying attention, you could have found yourself voting for someone who was highly qualified for President and who might have saved America.

In California where they have voter initiatives on the ballot, not to long ago and there are some DP members from California who remember. You went to the polls and the way the initiative was worded on the ballot if you voted yes for an initiative it was actually voting no. If you voted no, it was counted as a yes vote. I #### you not.

It wouldn't surprise in forty years from now when you go to the polls you will be punching a hole next to the photo of the candidate. Don't they do that in many third world countries today ?
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Pat Buchanan was going to "save America"? Save it from what? Harry Potter?
 
APACHERAT said:
I only used Pew because most people except Pew's findings.

What would you consider as a legitimate source ?

When I use exiting pollings on election day it really shows how Obama got elected, uninformed voters. And libs don't like the polling results.
Media Malpractice Polling Research
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You have no clue what a reliable source is.
 
Hatuey said:
Rubio, Perry, Santorum, and Cruz? Lol. Say hello to Democrats getting the white house for another 4 years.
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Piece of cake when you have the entire MSM helping you.
 
not a Republican so I will not vote - but please let it be Paul.... please please please. I keep telling people how bad 1964 was for the GOP from the top to the bottom of the ticket and it would be great if people today could see it for themselves.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Nonsense. We were offered a choice between Obama and Obama-lite. Why put the republicant label on a big gov't moron when we can keep the demorat label on a bigger gov't moron? Many of the republicants that we now have in congressional office are likely dumb enough to try to help "fix" PPACA, just as they recently agreed to compromise and reduce the tiny spending "cuts" that came via sequestration - in the name of making nice to avoid getting hollered at by Obama.
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that's moronic. Again, that attitude gave us four more years of Obamatardation
 
TurtleDude said:
that's moronic. Again, that attitude gave us four more years of Obamatardation
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I am not going to vote for either Obama or Obama-lite. Were you in favor of a "simple" 59-point economic plan? What exactly was the Romney plan? Anyone that can get elected in MA or NJ is not what I see as a small gov't candidate. Some moron running on the RomneyCare mandate is good, the ObamaCare mandate is bad will never get my vote.
 
Kobie said:
Pat Buchanan was going to "save America"? Save it from what? Harry Potter?
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Well in that case we totally needed to elect Al Gore to save us from ManBearPig. I'm super cereal.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I am not going to vote for either Obama or Obama-lite. Were you in favor of a "simple" 59-point economic plan? What exactly was the Romney plan? Anyone that can get elected in MA or NJ is not what I see as a small gov't candidate. Some moron running on the RomneyCare mandate is good, the ObamaCare mandate is bad will never get my vote.
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2012: Obamney vs. Robama.
 
Puigb said:
If stupid people were prevented from voting, the Republican party would quickly disappear into oblivion.
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If stupid people were prevented from voting, both parties might actually have to run on substance and a good platform and plan rather than "don't let gays get married" or "My health care reform is better than your nearly identical health care reform."
 
Kobie said:
You could also see what could happen if the old folks couldn't see who they were voting for.

Even YOU have to admit, that's a pretty bad ballot.
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Old folks, strange how they were pretty much monolithic voting for the Democrats from FDR until Reagan came along. Did he have anything to with the switch over or did most of the FDR crowd just die out? Perhaps Reagan did some, but I think most of those old FDR folks just went for the dirt nap. I think Reagan brought a lot of those 20 year old back in the 80's into the Republican fold which would put them in their 50's now so old folks will probably tend to be a bit more Republican for 10-20 years to come.

Clinton brought the young back into the Democratic fold and they will probably tend to vote that way and will replace the ones Reagan lured into the Republican Party. You have always had trends like this and will always will until the good old USA hits its expiration date.
 
Perotista said:
Old folks, strange how they were pretty much monolithic voting for the Democrats from FDR until Reagan came along. Did he have anything to with the switch over or did most of the FDR crowd just die out? Perhaps Reagan did some, but I think most of those old FDR folks just went for the dirt nap. I think Reagan brought a lot of those 20 year old back in the 80's into the Republican fold which would put them in their 50's now so old folks will probably tend to be a bit more Republican for 10-20 years to come.

Clinton brought the young back into the Democratic fold and they will probably tend to vote that way and will replace the ones Reagan lured into the Republican Party. You have always had trends like this and will always will until the good old USA hits its expiration date.
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:agree: Why some want to hurry the expiration date will doubtless be made obvious soon. When I start wondering about things that are currently going on, it seems that we are now going to be asked what we stand for. Too many good people of all colors are being vilified by those that want to turn this country into something that is not what our Constitution and Bill of Rights offered to all people, and I find that so sad. Our politicians are letting us down, and worse of all, they don't care. Party truly has become more important than what is good for the people of this country.

One hopeful thing I saw this morning---my innocent little Christmas cactus, which sits on a stand by the window, has burst into full bloom, right on Nature's timetable. This humbled me and gave me a little reminder that that there are greater truths in the universe than we can imagine, and that our petty squabbles over things might keep us at odds with each other, but in the end, it doesn't matter. Time will go on, whether we are here or not. :peace:

Good morning, Pero. :2wave:
 
Huntsman I'd love to see get the nod, but I don't think he will NOR am I certain he can win (I think 2012 he would've won handily)

I like Rand Paul and think he's a smart and deft enough politician to do okay, but I didn't agree with nor like a short term Senator being a candidate for President in 2008 and I'm not magically changing my mind because they have an (R) next to their name. So I would rather not see him at the top of the ticket. I think he'd be a GREAT VP nominee.

Cruz is a less politically deft and more socially polarizing Rand Paul....basically, all the negatives with Paul and few unique advantages. Pass in terms of the Presidency.

Perry I just don't think has the electability to be a true contender. Santorum....hahahaha, no.

Huckabee could be interesting. Has executive experience that I like, but some past social comments give me pause. A little more populist at times than I'd like.

Christie I think, at this point, may be the best top of ticket choice. Fiscally conservative which is the portion of the platform with the widest appeal, but more moderate socially which is the part of the platform with the most polarization attached to it. He'd need to be paired with someone like Paul.

Portman's an interesting choice. Along with that I'd be interested in possibly seeing Nikki Haley if she wins re-election in SC (looking like she will at this early moment). Tea Party backed, executive experience, and a number of things that will help electability.
 
Yes I almost always agree with this, but one I can't is Chris Christie. Mind you I think he'd make a terrific candidate for the Democrats and would encourage him to run as a Democrat - hell I could even vote for him as a Democrat, but his antics are far too leftist for me to support as one ready for a conservative leader. If I have a choice between a leftist like the hildabeast and so called moderate like Christie I can just stay home as my vote would not be reflected in the outcome of the election anyway.


TurtleDude said:
I go for electability first. Purists I call Dem voters.

Like all the assholes who stayed home because they didn't Like Romney's faith or they didn't think he was conservative enough so they gave us four more years of Obamatardation. And the bible thumping bigots will probably get their panties in a wad over Rob's son Will being Gay.
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Oh wow. A lot more votes since last night. 33 votes.

Rand Paul 27%
Jon Huntsman 24%
Chris Christie
Other 15%
Ted Cruz 9%
Mike Huckabee 3%
Rick Perry 3%
Rob Portman 3%

Last I checked it was 1 of the "Other" votes was for Rob Portman, 2 didn't announce who, and 3 more I have yet to check if they announced who their "Other" votes were for. And interesting how Rand Paul jumped to be the new frontrunner for this poll. Last I checked it was Jon Huntsman in the beginning.
 
I think if the GOP was smarter, they would each find a certain wing of the GOP to represent a certain faction of it.

Be they conservatives, tea party, moderate. For example, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, - are all more Tea Party. Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, are more conservative. Chris Christie, Jon Huntsman, Paul Ryan seem to be more moderate.

Rather than dividing the percentage, to ensure that two tea parties don't split the tea party vote within the GOP Primary and get another moderate nominated - rather those in each part of the party should set forth a candidate that best represents their views.

This is only just a strategy, of course. And every candidate or potential candidate should do what they think is right. I understand that the Primary Debates in 2015 will give an example of where each candidates stand in polls before the NH Primary & Iowa Caucus.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Where is $istah $arah???
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Good question. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, there were some who were in the "Other" category. I picked who I guessed were the 9 most likely to run and added the "Other" option. I wish there was an unlimited or at least longer options. People like her (Sarah Palin), Bobby Jindal, Scott Walker, Jeb Bush, Ted Nugent, Donald Trump, John Bolton, Newt Gingrich, Mary Fallin.
 
Huntsman would be my top choice. However his ineffective 2012 campaign, and the fact that Democrats and independents actually seem to like him, or at least know that appearing to like him will make sure he never gets the nomination, I don't see him likely.

My next choice would be Rob Portman from Ohio. I would also love to see Brian Sandoval run because I've recently become a pretty big fan of his, but I doubt he would.

Susana Martinez, Bob Corker, Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, and John Thune would all be pretty good for me.

Mike Huckabee has always appealed to me as a person. He's seemed much more likeable and honest than the average politician, but I'm not sure I could get past some of his social policies and the fact that he would probably make them center points of his campaign.

I still haven't decided completely how I feel about Rubio and Paul.

I wouldn't vote for Santorum or Perry, although I doubt I'd have to worry about either one.

For several reasons I'm vehemently opposed to Ted Cruz in 2016.
 
Zyphlin said:
Along with that I'd be interested in possibly seeing Nikki Haley if she wins re-election in SC (looking like she will at this early moment). Tea Party backed, executive experience, and a number of things that will help electability.
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I don't know much about Haley, I'll have to look into her. Although I know she might have a difficult time against Sheheen next year after he came so close to beating her in 2010.
 
Tothian said:
Chris Christie isn't the most electable. Chris Christie is THE LEAST ELECTABLE. He is the WORST choice of ALL the Republicans. Unless if you count Peter King. He is even worse than Christie. And see that's the problem. You are letting emotion rule your vote. It isn't their likable personality that will help put this country on a better track. It's the candidate with the best ideas.

When will Republicans learn, that nominating a moderate just because they're viewed as "more likely to win" - not only is wrong because it has to "settle" for "MUCH less than best"
BUT ALSO, it didn't work in 2008 with McCain, and it didn't work in 2012 with Romney. It wouldn't work with Christie in 2016. Please don't make that mistake again.
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If the GOP lets the perfect be the enemy of the good in 2016 another Democrat will move into the White House in 2017.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
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Anagram said:
Huntsman would be my top choice. However his ineffective 2012 campaign, and the fact that Democrats and independents actually seem to like him, or at least know that appearing to like him will make sure he never gets the nomination, I don't see him likely.

My next choice would be Rob Portman from Ohio. I would also love to see Brian Sandoval run because I've recently become a pretty big fan of his, but I doubt he would.

Susana Martinez, Bob Corker, Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, and John Thune would all be pretty good for me.

Mike Huckabee has always appealed to me as a person. He's seemed much more likeable and honest than the average politician, but I'm not sure I could get past some of his social policies and the fact that he would probably make them center points of his campaign.

I still haven't decided completely how I feel about Rubio and Paul.

I wouldn't vote for Santorum or Perry, although I doubt I'd have to worry about either one.

For several reasons I'm vehemently opposed to Ted Cruz in 2016.
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Huntsman left the Governor's office the first year into his 2nd term, to be an Ambassador to China under Obama for like about 2 years when he still had 3 and a half years left as Governor.

Brian Sandoval gave in and decided to support Obamacare (AKA Obamadontcare)

Susana Martinez won't leave the state for national office because she prefers to stay close to home since she has a disabled sister to take care of.

Mike Huckabee is a likeable, honest politician. I like the fact that he's a conservative.

There is absolutely no reason why anyone should dislike Ted Cruz. He is actually THE best candidate for President amongst all of them. It shows how deceived America is that they want bad politicians like liberals running this country. It's wrong.
 
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