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The Boston Marathon bombing, Aurora movie theater shooting and Sandy Hook elementary school shooting were NOT false flags or hoaxes. Real people were hurt and killed by other real people.

It's useless to talk to conspiracy theorists. The Alex Jones types are simply incapable of reason.
 
??? That's not how it works. It's not up to me and my buddies. The checks and balance system of government was brilliantly designed so that when government officials stepped out of line, they could immediately be removed. The problem is, they didn't foresee a not-so-brilliant future American public that would actually defend the removal of their own rights and freedoms.

Apparently, the "not-so-bright" American public has existed since the dawn of said Republic.
 
Hannity: Obama Can ‘Declare Martial Law’ in Peacetime!

Due to the fact that so many here appear completely unaware that they have laughed themselves out of freedom, due process, and a government with checks and balances, I challenge anybody to refute any of the information from the above link. While you people laughed at "conspiracy theorists" who paid close attention to executive orders and bills such as the NDAA that were quietly signed with little to no media attention, the legal framework for totalitarian dictatorship was passed into law.

I suspect people don't believe it because they haven't read all the documents, and they haven't seen the implementation of it. Of course, they also completely ignore things like the DHS and every other agency arming itself to the teeth, and Obama firing 11 military generals in one day (apparently weeding out the patriots), false flag operations in Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut (all attempts to try to get Americans to demand gun confiscation and abolishment of the 2nd amendment).

Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it. You're either unaware or you just don't care about you, your family, and future generations. If you don't believe it, you can read it all and see that it's there in black and white (you can link to the actual documents from the above link).

I urge you to accept my challenge and disprove any statement from the above link. Please don't dismiss it just because you can walk outside right now and see a bunch of "freedom" going on. They're no doubt making final preparations and deciding on an "event" to use as a hammer-dropper. If Americans were smart, there would be indictments and recalls, and impeachment. More likely, they're going to sit idle until the NWO has everything in place.
It's very near that point, and then it's too late.




This thread obviously belongs in the 'conspiracy theories' forum portion of this website.

Anyone who is not happy with the government of the USA, which was put in office by the majority of American voters, should vote for someone who is not in office now next time.

Doing that or leaving the USA ( The entrances to the exits are wide open.) are the only valid options available.
 
Go to an open window, stick your head out and shout, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!"




I like that idea, but you should have added: And keep doing it until you get results.

I guarantee that if anyone screams out of their window long enough in most places they will get results.

Eventually.

Maybe not the results that they want, but they will get some kind of results.
 
The Boston Marathon bombing, Aurora movie theater shooting and Sandy Hook elementary school shooting were NOT false flags or hoaxes. Real people were hurt and killed by other real people.

False flag events (like 911 for example) do not require the deaths to be fake, but in Sandy Hook and Boston marathon we saw evidence of phony crisis actors who were "witnesses" at both events. People caught on camera at the supposed Boston bombing dispersing fake blood, along with that famous video of the man who very quickly dumps "ashes' amidst a crowd of people, and even amputee actors with gruesome Hollywood style prosthetics being paraded down the street in a wheelchair instead of being loaded into one of the many ambulances that waited, and waited.....and waited.

Sandy Hook was as phony as it gets. The "grieving parent" at the press conference who didn't know the camera was rolling and was shown laughing on the set just seconds before his "tearful" speech. His speech was unconvincing after that bit of insight. Again, waiting ambulances, but no bodies. People who lived in that tight-knit neighborhood saying they never heard of that guy and his mother. They tried to say his mother worked at the school until no one would corroborate it.
 
It's useless to talk to conspiracy theorists. The Alex Jones types are simply incapable of reason.

Alex Jones type? Incapable of reason? Conspiracy theorist? The irony here is just amazing. Every one of my posts contains some type of reasoning about something that I've laid out the hard evidence for, which means I'm not theorizing. I rarely "theorize". There's always plenty of evidence so there's no need to theorize.

You, on the other hand, come posting a feeble personal attack, offering nothing about the subject matter - nothing to counter the reasoning of my last post. Classic.
 
I asked that you take a statement from the link and prove it wrong. Of course, you're unable to do that (because it's not possible - so don't feel bad!), so instead you ask me to prove it right. I need to know, then, which statement it is that you feel needs to be proven right? It's not a burden for me.

Again, that's the wrong approach. You never prove anything wrong. You prove the positive.
 
Is it funny that the conspiracy theory section can no longer contain its habitual denizens and the idiocy has spread into other sub forums?

I might go so far as to say it is mildly amusing -- at least when I am in a good mood. I find all the exposure to this forum pollution simply irritating when I am not.
 
This thread obviously belongs in the 'conspiracy theories' forum portion of this website.

Anyone who is not happy with the government of the USA, which was put in office by the majority of American voters, should vote for someone who is not in office now next time.

Doing that or leaving the USA ( The entrances to the exits are wide open.) are the only valid options available.

Wait a minute. Let me put your input into perspective, here. You haven't challenged any of the facts from the link, such as what they've done to the first amendment, or reserving the right to execute emergency orders (martial law) during peacetime, etc.

The direction this country is headed in is, historically, a bad one. If you remain oblivious to it, it keeps going in that direction. There is much reason for concern, yet, according to fellow American shrubnose, nobody should voice any concerns. If we're not happy - get out. Listen, buddy, if you're happy with what is transpiring in Washington, you are a masochist. Wake up. You're not in Kansas anymore.
 
Is it funny that the conspiracy theory section can no longer contain its habitual denizens and the idiocy has spread into other sub forums?

I might go so far as to say it is mildly amusing -- at least when I am in a good mood. I find all the exposure to this forum pollution simply irritating when I am not.

Challenge what I've said then. Don't have the wit? Unable to challenge because you know I will provide info from .gov proving that what I say is true? We're starting to see nothing but the same identical posts so apparently the only ammo anybody has is to pretend I'm theorizing about conspiracies that don't exist. I've shown the documentation for martial law during peacetime. Just because they haven't implemented it doesn't mean we should pretend it's not there.
 
I do understand that concept. Why attach whining like a spoiled brat while you are doing nothing?

Maybe he realized that the American public likes to say they are fiscally conservative but in reality they just want lower taxes while maintaining current spending levels. Paul Ryan might have got a giant doze of reality. Americans aren't as conservative as they claim to be. He has to appease these idiots without calculators while using his calculator. It's not as easy as it looks.

The American consumer is very aggressive about getting a good deal. These savvy shoppers vote too. They want more goodies at lower prices. People like Paul Ryan have to find a way to appease these unrealistic demands. He's doing something not just hosting a radio talk show. Radio talk show host can say anything in the world they want to say. They will never look stupid, immoral, compromising or hypocritical. They aren't in the trenches like Paul Ryan. F*** Rush Limbaugh and everything he ever forced you to believe.
1) I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh or any other radio host. I form my own opinions. You make the classic newb mistake of simply putting people into nice and tidy cookie cutter categories based off of their lean, user name, etc so that you can form an opinion. That's why my lean is independent. I think for myself. Maybe you should try it some time.
2) Your belief that whatever party the current President belongs to should dictate the way the entire legislative branch votes is absolutely asinine. Just like there are reasons for Pres Obama being elected, there are reasons why each and every member of the GOP controlled House were elected. We currently have a GOP controlled House and Dem controlled Senate and a Dem as President. That means Dems need to compromise just as much as the GOP does because there are a lot of people in this country that don't subscribe to the mess we were dealt from 2008-2010 when the Dems controlled everything. Need I remind you what that 2 year stint produced?
3) The new debt deal, which is the purpose of this whole discussion, is garbage. This is what we get when we "just let it happen" like you suggest. Nothing. We (the country) got nothing out of this deal. It simply kicks the can down the road to stage another fight just like we've been having. And that fight is only a month away. It isn't like this deal solved any sort of long term problem.
4) If conservatives continue to do what they've been doing and just ignore the fact that our entitlements are untenable, we will be forced to deal with it one day. Why not fight for it now and get it fixed so it isn't as painful? We still have a chance to revisit the way Medicare/SS are funded, reform the tax code, etc without it being overly painful or hurtful to the country. Instead, people such as yourself continue to elect "conservatives" who just kick the can down the road for someone else to deal with. Eventually the road ends. I'm not someone who thinks that one day the country just going to go up in flames. What I am saying is it's going to get painful really fast when the road does end. Idk anymore than you do what will cause that. Our gov't is so big and complicated that no one could guess that and be confident they are correct. But it's going to happen unless we fix the aforementioned things. Just sitting back and allowing fiscally irresponsible politicians, regardless of lean, to spend spend spend is definitely not something we should do.
 
Take your pick.

I don't need to. Instead, let's focus on your inability to challenge and prove me wrong. No, let's not - you've wasted enough of my time. Join the growing ranks who want to talk sht about how I'm talking nonsense, but then fail to counter it with anything intelligent. It's dumb, really. If you don't provide a valid argument on the subject matter to go along with the personal attack, then the personal attack fails and YOU look stupid, not me.
 
Obviously all of the anti-gunners that have shown up on this website have been hired to assist the government in disarming us. :shrug:
 
Okay okay okay ... enough of this.

Are we really discussing whether or not Barack Obama views the political & social system of the USA as one that would benefit from a Socialist makeover?
And that he knows the US Constitution is an impediment?
So he can't come right out and say it so he has to be careful when going about his work?
While some here either don't believe it or, like him, can't acknowledge it?
Is that pretty much a summary?
 
Obviously all of the anti-gunners that have shown up on this website have been hired to assist the government in disarming us. :shrug:

I work for Reynolds aluminum, myself.

Sales are booming, and we wish to keep it that way.
 
Okay okay okay ... enough of this.

Are we really discussing whether or not Barack Obama views the political & social system of the USA as one that would benefit from a Socialist makeover?
And that he knows the US Constitution is an impediment?
So he can't come right out and say it so he has to be careful when going about his work?
While some here either don't believe it or, like him, can't acknowledge it?
Is that pretty much a summary?

I'm not sure what you're saying, but I think Obama would do whatever it takes to achieve social justice as he sees it.
 
I work for Reynolds aluminum, myself.

Sales are booming, and we wish to keep it that way.

I think I'm missing a key part of this story.
 
I'm not sure what you're saying, but I think Obama would do whatever it takes to achieve social justice as he sees it.

I was just trying to summarize the positions I've seen over the last 3 pages.
Then I was going to ask anyone to explain how if that was NOT his intention, in what way would it look any different than if it was.
 
I think I'm missing a key part of this story.

and we are pet friendly, too!

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. Don't have the wit?.

I see you slipped up there and said "wit" when you meant to say "psychosis".

Don't worry (if you are even capable) -- it's an easy mistake to make.
 
I was just trying to summarize the positions I've seen over the last 3 pages.
Then I was going to ask anyone to explain how if that was NOT his intention, in what way would it look any different than if it was.

Social justice is his agenda in my view.
 
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