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We have a "rogue" government who are the REAL terrorists


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The link I provided contains links to the proof, which are the documents themselves.

You asked to be proven wrong. If those documents really proved it, there would be no debate, would there?
 
Just imagine. My local county Republican Party is full of people like this. People like sKITzo are running the Republican Party right now. They say ridiculous nonsense like this and demand to be taken seriously. I suppose they'll learn a little bit about the real world and silently disappear. Once these nut jobs get out of the party we can become strong again. All it takes is a little exposure to reality and these f***ers will shut up.

Obama isn't the anti-Christ. Obama isn't a member of the Taliban. Obama isn't the worst president ever. Obama isn't going to take your guns while you are sleeping. Obama isn't going to force anybody to spell their name backwards. Just because your party loses the presidential election doesn't mean the world will be destroyed. This is completely irrational yet so mainstream. It's very obnoxious.
While I don't think I'm on the level of paranoia the OP is, it still blows me away how people such as yourself who claim to be "slightly conservative" (whatever that means) can sit back and say that people like me are just blowhards and conspiracy theorists. Meanwhile, we've had the NSA scandal, the IRS targeting conservative groups, guns being given to Mexican drug cartels, an embassy attack cover up, drone strikes on American citizens, etc, etc. This has all happened in the past 5 years. Yet you still see no reason to at least raise an eyebrow? You just think this is all made up nonsense? This gov't is crooked bro. More crooked that normal even. No two ways about it. It isn't something that should be just brushed aside as "paranoia".
 
I just don't buy the conspiracy theory stuff. While he is far from the best president, I don't think he's evil or wants to destroy the country.
I agree that he probably isn't evil or wants to destroy the country. I just think he is one of the most, if not the most controlling Presidents in the history of our country. Combine that with the fact that he has shaky ethics, comes from a shady political background (Chicago), and happens to be the POTUS during a time when it is the easiest it's ever been to be the control freak he wants to be due to technology, and you have a borderline tyrannical administration. IMO, that he has shaky ethics leads to all of this because what kind of people is a person with shaky ethics going to surround himself with? The people that will do his bidding.
 
While I don't think I'm on the level of paranoia the OP is, it still blows me away how people such as yourself who claim to be "slightly conservative" (whatever that means) can sit back and say that people like me are just blowhards and conspiracy theorists. Meanwhile, we've had the NSA scandal, the IRS targeting conservative groups, guns being given to Mexican drug cartels, an embassy attack cover up, drone strikes on American citizens, etc, etc. This has all happened in the past 5 years. Yet you still see no reason to at least raise an eyebrow? You just think this is all made up nonsense? This gov't is crooked bro. More crooked that normal even. No two ways about it. It isn't something that should be just brushed aside as "paranoia".

How do you quantify "more crooked than normal"?

How many officials went to jail in the 80's and 90's? It's been crooked for a long time.
 
How do you quantify "more crooked than normal"?

How many officials went to jail in the 80's and 90's? It's been crooked for a long time.
That's what's scary. We have just as many, if not more, scandals as the 80's and 90's combined yet no one has been put in jail.
 
Hannity: Obama Can ‘Declare Martial Law’ in Peacetime!

Due to the fact that so many here appear completely unaware that they have laughed themselves out of freedom, due process, and a government with checks and balances, I challenge anybody to refute any of the information from the above link. While you people laughed at "conspiracy theorists" who paid close attention to executive orders and bills such as the NDAA that were quietly signed with little to no media attention, the legal framework for totalitarian dictatorship was passed into law.

I suspect people don't believe it because they haven't read all the documents, and they haven't seen the implementation of it. Of course, they also completely ignore things like the DHS and every other agency arming itself to the teeth, and Obama firing 11 military generals in one day (apparently weeding out the patriots), false flag operations in Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut (all attempts to try to get Americans to demand gun confiscation and abolishment of the 2nd amendment).

Obama, and all members of congress have broken their oaths and committed treason, yet NOTHING is done about it. You're either unaware or you just don't care about you, your family, and future generations. If you don't believe it, you can read it all and see that it's there in black and white (you can link to the actual documents from the above link).

I urge you to accept my challenge and disprove any statement from the above link. Please don't dismiss it just because you can walk outside right now and see a bunch of "freedom" going on. They're no doubt making final preparations and deciding on an "event" to use as a hammer-dropper. If Americans were smart, there would be indictments and recalls, and impeachment. More likely, they're going to sit idle until the NWO has everything in place.
It's very near that point, and then it's too late.




I am not going to respond to the: "Is it funny to you?" question, but I am going to say that this thread belongs in the conspiracy theories portion of this website.




The 'real terrorists' in the USA are those on the far right who call the government that was elected by the majority of the voters in the USA a 'Rogue government'.

The only government that they would ever accept would be one full of far right losers who have been rejected by the majority of American voters.




"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
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While I don't think I'm on the level of paranoia the OP is, it still blows me away how people such as yourself who claim to be "slightly conservative" (whatever that means) can sit back and say that people like me are just blowhards and conspiracy theorists. Meanwhile, we've had the NSA scandal, the IRS targeting conservative groups, guns being given to Mexican drug cartels, an embassy attack cover up, drone strikes on American citizens, etc, etc. This has all happened in the past 5 years. Yet you still see no reason to at least raise an eyebrow? You just think this is all made up nonsense? This gov't is crooked bro. More crooked that normal even. No two ways about it. It isn't something that should be just brushed aside as "paranoia".

Obama won. It's more effective to work with him to get things accomplished than to cry like a little baby. He won. Just because someone wins an election doesn't mean they are determined to destroy the country. You know deep down that's f***ing retarded.

During an election campaign you should use scare tactics, lies, conspiracy theories, idiotic name calling or even accusing the opponent of being the anti-christ. I'm cool with that but the election ended a long f***ing time ago. Once the election results come in it is more effective to step back into reality.

The stupid moronic language has it's place. It's place is during the campaign. Our country is so full of gullible people that they believe campaign speeches and political commercials to be true. It's just annoying to see a country full of idiots. Our elected leaders have to cater to these idiots. I think it just hampers the potential of the republican party. Whining like a little baby because you lost doesn't accomplish jack s***. It's annoying. Do I have to explain this again?

Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
 
Yet you still see no reason to at least raise an eyebrow? You just think this is all made up nonsense? This gov't is crooked bro. More crooked that normal even. No two ways about it. It isn't something that should be just brushed aside as "paranoia".

Yeah. Let's panic to the extreme and encourage more people to panic to the extreme. Let's squander our capacity of having the majority in congress in order to do what is important and that is to prove that Obama sucks.

Number one goal of the Republican Party: Abolish the Affordable Care Act
Number two goal of the Republican Party: Prove that Obama sucks
Number three goal of the Republican Party: There is no other goals. All energy needs to be focused on the first two. In other words, the Republican Party won't do anything until we get a Republican president.

F*** THAT. THAT'S WASTEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
This gov't is crooked bro.

"This government" is very evenly split between D's and R's.

If one is crooked, they're pretty much all crooked.
And it's not a new thing either. It's not confined to D's or R's.

So I'll go back to a question I asked earlier in this hideous thread:

Can you please tell me how far back we need to go to find an honest and trustworthy President and congress?

What year? What decade? What century?
 
Obama won. It's more effective to work with him to get things accomplished than to cry like a little baby. He won. Just because someone wins an election doesn't mean they are determined to destroy the country. You know deep down that's f***ing retarded.

During an election campaign you should use scare tactics, lies, conspiracy theories, idiotic name calling or even accusing the opponent of being the anti-christ. I'm cool with that but the election ended a long f***ing time ago. Once the election results come in it is more effective to step back into reality.

The stupid moronic language has it's place. It's place is during the campaign. Our country is so full of gullible people that they believe campaign speeches and political commercials to be true. It's just annoying to see a country full of idiots. Our elected leaders have to cater to these idiots. I think it just hampers the potential of the republican party. Whining like a little baby because you lost doesn't accomplish jack s***. It's annoying. Do I have to explain this again?

Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
Quit being a sore loser and let congress utilize the opportunity of having control of the Congress. :beatdeadhorse
It's quite sad that you think this is all about who won and who lost. The ultimate loser is the country, not a political party. I don't know what dead horses you think are being beat but if all of the things that have been massively screwed up during Pres Obama's 5 years to this point are just dead horses to you, maybe you should reconsider what you believe to be important. During his presidency, his issues have been vast and diverse. I guess his repeated excuse "I didn't know" passes muster with you?
 
Yeah. Let's panic to the extreme and encourage more people to panic to the extreme. Let's squander our capacity of having the majority in congress in order to do what is important and that is to prove that Obama sucks.

Number one goal of the Republican Party: Abolish the Affordable Care Act
Number two goal of the Republican Party: Prove that Obama sucks
Number three goal of the Republican Party: There is no other goals. All energy needs to be focused on the first two. In other words, the Republican Party won't do anything until we get a Republican president.

F*** THAT. THAT'S WASTEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In other words, bend over and let it happen. Gotcha. That makes a ton of sense. I can only imagine where we'd be if we didn't have people in the House that fight tooth and nail over every single thing Harry Reid and Pres Obama try to shove down their throat. A good example of letting it happen is this garbage budget deal. Even the "fiscally conservative" Paul Ryan is slowly "coming around" to your side of things. Look what it got us.
 
"This government" is very evenly split between D's and R's.

If one is crooked, they're pretty much all crooked.
And it's not a new thing either. It's not confined to D's or R's.

So I'll go back to a question I asked earlier in this hideous thread:

Can you please tell me how far back we need to go to find an honest and trustworthy President and congress?

What year? What decade? What century?
I can only speak to my experience, not back to when I wasn't alive or old enough to know what was politically honest and what wasn't. Memories make the heart grow fond in this country. Especially when speaking of Presidents. That's makes this question one that cannot be honestly answered by anyone on this website. All I can do is call what I see and what I see is a crooked gov't. Yes, it's been crooked my whole life. Nowhere have I said it wasn't when Pres Bush I or II was in office nor when Pres Clinton was in. What I will say is that this particular administration is more crooked than the ones I've seen so far. Every President that I listed had one or two controversies during their tenures. Some bigger than others. Look at what Pres Obama has had. This list is long, diverse, and troubling. And most of it is due to people he appointed to positions. Which goes back to my comments about his ethics or lack thereof.
 
...and on that link, AS I SAID, are links to the executive orders. Here's an excerpt from one of them:

Sec. 502. Consultants. The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section may not be redelegated.

Without compensation? Ohhh, slavery! I'm sure that won't get your attention either. This is all a big joke to you.

If you think that executive order is hair raising, go through the 'emergency preparedness' EO's starting with President Kennedy.

Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index
 
false flag operations in Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut

The Boston Marathon bombing, Aurora movie theater shooting and Sandy Hook elementary school shooting were NOT false flags or hoaxes. Real people were hurt and killed by other real people.
 
In other words, bend over and let it happen. Gotcha. That makes a ton of sense.

Yeah. That's what big boys do when they don't get their way.

I still don't understand how doing nothing makes things better. That's very strange to me.
 
Yeah. That's what big boys do when they don't get their way.

I still don't understand how doing nothing makes things better. That's very strange to me.
Doing nothing (in most cases, not all) equals less gov't regulation which equals win. I don't know what "big boys" you hang out with but the ones I know don't do that.
 
Wrong way to go about it. The burden of proof is yours. Convince me.

I asked that you take a statement from the link and prove it wrong. Of course, you're unable to do that (because it's not possible - so don't feel bad!), so instead you ask me to prove it right. I need to know, then, which statement it is that you feel needs to be proven right? It's not a burden for me.
 
Even the "fiscally conservative" Paul Ryan is slowly "coming around" to your side of things.

Maybe he realized that the American public likes to say they are fiscally conservative but in reality they just want lower taxes while maintaining current spending levels. Paul Ryan might have got a giant doze of reality. Americans aren't as conservative as they claim to be. He has to appease these idiots without calculators while using his calculator. It's not as easy as it looks.

The American consumer is very aggressive about getting a good deal. These savvy shoppers vote too. They want more goodies at lower prices. People like Paul Ryan have to find a way to appease these unrealistic demands. He's doing something not just hosting a radio talk show. Radio talk show host can say anything in the world they want to say. They will never look stupid, immoral, compromising or hypocritical. They aren't in the trenches like Paul Ryan. F*** Rush Limbaugh and everything he ever forced you to believe.
 
I just love irrational conspiracy nonsense like this thread ...it drives rational conservatives into the moderate column and away from the right wing...
 
No. You and your buddies should get their bb guns and go stop him. Brings some water balloons too just in case.

??? That's not how it works. It's not up to me and my buddies. The checks and balance system of government was brilliantly designed so that when government officials stepped out of line, they could immediately be removed. The problem is, they didn't foresee a not-so-brilliant future American public that would actually defend the removal of their own rights and freedoms.
 
The checks and balance system of government was brilliantly designed so that when government officials stepped out of line, they could immediately be removed.

When did this happen to an American president?

Andrew Johnson impeached on February 24, 1868
Bill Clinton impeached on December 19, 1998
Richard Nixon resigned on August 9, 1974
Andrew Jackson was censured in 1834
Abraham Lincoln assassinated on April 14, 1865
James A Garfield assassinated on July 2, 1881
William Mckinley assassinated on September 6, 1901
John F Kennedy assassinated on November 22, 1963
William Harrison died while in office on April 4, 1841
Zachary Taylor died while in office on July 9, 1850
Warren Harding died while in office August 2, 1923
Franklin D. Rosevelt died while in office on April 12, 1945

Nope. I don't recall a president ever being removed from office. Sorry. History repeats itself. Obama will leave office but it will be in January 2017. Obama isn't going anywhere. That doesn't mean we have to throw our hands up, quit and cry like spoiled babies. Surely you learned this when playing sports as a young child.

You all line up and shake hands with the winning team and say, "Good game". Yes. This is what big boys do. Little brats scream, cry, throw a fit, call names and try to sabotage the winner.

You need to quit entertaining my messages. Things are going to start making sense to you and you will feel like a complete idiot. Just ignore my messages and you can maintain your belief that Obama wants to blow up the United States. This is a much more comforting thing to believe. Quit reading my messages or you will have to abandon your blissful life of living in constant fear.
 
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snopes.com: Executive Order 13603 -- National Defense Resources Preparedness

Read the above link.

Not surprising.

But I'm sure it's a "conspiracy" isn't it?

Snopes is in on the "New Order" coming to the USofA. :lamo

Sure, I read the above link, and if I was like you, I would be totally fooled and convinced, "LMAO" at the "conspiracy theorists". My IQ, however, doesn't afford me that luxury, and after fact-checking some of the statements made in your link, I immediately found the piece to be a deceptive piece of propaganda. You'd have been correct about snopes being in on it, if you weren't being sarcastic.

Snopes says, for example, that "Obama has added to Section 201(b) the phrase "under both emergency and non-emergency conditions." In 12919, though, the duties of the Cabinet Secretaries were not limited to emergency situations in Section 201(b), either." Snopes has attempted to use word play to deceive us into believing that there's really no difference between the older one and the new one and that "The timing of this release might have looked a little strange, but this is really nothing to worry about at all."

Look at the statement again: "In 12919, though, the duties of the Cabinet Secretaries were not limited to emergency situations in Section 201(b), either." The non-deceptive statement would be "In 12919, though, the duties of the Cabinet Secretaries were not expanded to non-emergency situations in Section 201(b)

I just found that right away, I'm sure if I went through the whole thing there would be many more.
 
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