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Is Obama a good president?[W:577]

Is Obama a good president?

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loader said:
What could be the proof that Obama imagines himself to be a God? If he performed miracles, then we could believe that he is God, or at least the son of God and not an African student. But he can't perform miracles. He can't perform even normal presidential job. He surrounded himself with "kings" as Jesus with his followers and they create ugliness as them god-Obama wants.
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Point being, you can't know what he imagines himself to be. Until you can quote him actually saying that, it is only your opinion.
 
ChrisL said:
Point being, you can't know what he imagines himself to be. Until you can quote him actually saying that, it is only your opinion.
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Yes it is. It's my opinion. Unfortunately, I rarely wrong. We will still have a lot of problems with our president. But it's also, just my opinion.
 
humbolt said:
Naturally. What could possibly go wrong?
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One thing that not only could, but has gone wrong is that a majority of the voters in the poll have said that Obama is not a good president.

Which means that now they are going to have to decide what they are going to do about that since he is going to be in the White House until January 2017 unless something happens to change that.
 
shrubnose said:
One thing that not only could, but has gone wrong is that a majority of the voters in the poll have said that Obama is not a good president.

Which means that now they are going to have to decide what they are going to do about that.
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The voters can't do anything about it. Zero. They had the chance to do something about it in the 2012 election and they made their choice. Enjoy...
 
Ockham said:
The voters can't do anything about it. Zero. They had the chance to do something about it in the 2012 election and they made their choice. Enjoy..
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That was the point that I was trying to make, the thread is a total waste of time.

Like a lot of threads on this website.

The voters will have another chance in 2016, it will be interesting to see who they put in the White House.
 
shrubnose said:
One thing that not only could, but has gone wrong is that a majority of the voters in the poll have said that Obama is not a good president.

Which means that now they are going to have to decide what they are going to do about that.
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Their chance of doing something about that has come went, that time was November 2012. Obama was a very vulnerable sitting president, but when the one chosen to run against him is considered the worst worst candidate, the least worst candidate wins although he is still a bad president. Until the two major parties either start nominating good candidates so we can have a good president or until the electorate finally see through the spiel of the two major parties when they say a vote for a third party candidate is a wasted vote, because he can't win. We will always have a mediocre president running this country.
 
calamity said:
I didn't really think about it until I read this piece. But, of course, once I did, it was a eureka moment. Moving forward since the 1980's meant being nimble, which really means relying on ever advancing technologies, primarily computers and telecommunication.



But, as much as the USSR being relatively backward and low-tech compared to Silicon Valley and Western Washington, energy problems are what I believe mostly sunk the Soviets. Falling prices globally and more difficulty extracting what was left. Again, technology.
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It is a very good source, balances the moves by Reagan, which did in fact contribute to the fall of the USSR.
But not just that - the factors you listed.....and this little nugget i found while scanning your original source:
Particularly effective, though with unintended long-term side effects, was the Reagan administration’s support for the mujahideen (holy warriors) that were fighting against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan
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Soon after the invasion, Osama bin Laden traveled to Afghanistan and helped organize Arab mujahadeen.
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when his partner (Azzam) was killed:
Nonetheless, bin Laden was free to take full control of MAK, laying groundwork for Al-Qaeda. Under guidance of Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden became more radical.
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Planning of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so not to make too much of this, but arming up the mujahideen, indirectly led to the formation of AQ, and 9-11.

Credit also has to go to Reagan though, for "outspending" the USSR - your source does mention these points.

Like most world history, events intertwine to create new parameters.
 
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shrubnose said:
That was the point that I was trying to make, the thread is a total waste of time.

Like a lot of threads on this website.

The voters will have another chance in 2016, it will be interesting to see who they put in the White House.
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My guess, another lesser of two evil candidate which is the least worst candidate and another bad president.
 
shrubnose said:
One thing that not only could, but has gone wrong is that a majority of the voters in the poll have said that Obama is not a good president.

Which means that now they are going to have to decide what they are going to do about that.
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Regarding the president, there's not much to be done. He's there for 3 more years. Think of that a minute. Three more years of seemingly endless bitching...
 
shrubnose said:
Whether all of the people in the USA deserve the president which the majority chose is open to question, but, in any case, he is the president.
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indeed, since majority rules in our Constitution, he is president of all the people.
The point was more to a 3rd party, the only way out I see from the stagnant duopoly.

Partisan politics is killing the U.S., and Obama is a big player - not unique - but I had expected just a little better from the "post -partisan POTUS"
 
annata said:
indeed, since majority rules in our Constitution, he is president of all the people.
The point was more to a 3rd party, the only way out I see from the stagnant duopoly.

Partisan politics is killing the U.S., and Obama is a big player - not unique -
but I had expected just a little better from the "post -partisan POTUS
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Obama has disappointed me also but I am not surprised that he has shown himself not to be that different from the rest of the pols who ended up in the White House.

He's no better and no worse than most of them.
 
shrubnose said:
Obama has disappointed me also but I am not surprised that he has shown himself not to be that different from the rest of the pols who ended up in the White House.
He's no better and no worse than most of them.
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yeppers.high marks for mediocrity.

His foreign wars though...just another neo-con
 
annata said:
yeppers.high marks for mediocrity.

His foreign wars though..
.just another neo-con
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But the Neo-cons have given him little respect for sending America's military in harms way with no gains for U.S. security.

If he destroyed Iran's nuclear program they would be unhappy that he didn't glassify the whole country.
 
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shrubnose said:
But the Neo-cons have given him little respect for sending America's military in harms way with no gains for U.S. security.
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well that's kinna what a neo-con is right? (if i understand you), they believe in forcing democracy - solely for democracy's sake itself,
as some kind of imperative
 
ChrisL said:
Libertarians are the only ones concerned about wasteful spending? I think not. :roll:
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Libertarians make spending a primary plank of their, so called, party platform... 'cause they don't want to be taxed....
 
cabse5 said:
Libertarians make spending a primary plank of their, so called, party platform... 'cause they don't want to be taxed....
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Is there something wrong with that? Why would anyone want to be taxed more to support government wasteful spending, and just to give you an example . . .

17 Examples of Government Waste
 
Rocketman said:
if the democrats keep shrinking the middle class as they have the last 6 years, the republicans will never win again. The democrats have tilted the elections with all the freebies handed out since Obama was elected.
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The middle class has been shrinking since 1980. Its just the ultra slow recovery for the 2008 depression exasperated the situation. Sorry you weren't paying attention previously.

The Material Well-Being of the Poor and the Middle Class since 1980
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/poverty/events/speakerbios_bibliography.pdf

Wealth Disparity - Uneven Income Growth.jpg
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upsideguy said:
The middle class has been shrinking since 1980. Its just the ultra slow recovery for the 2008 depression exasperated the situation. Sorry you weren't paying attention previously.

The Material Well-Being of the Poor and the Middle Class since 1980
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/poverty/events/speakerbios_bibliography.pdf

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I have been living it instead of lining up for my programming from the liberal moonbat sites
 
upsideguy said:
The middle class has been shrinking since 1980. Its just the ultra slow recovery for the 2008 depression exasperated the situation. Sorry you weren't paying attention previously.

The Material Well-Being of the Poor and the Middle Class since 1980
http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/poverty/events/speakerbios_bibliography.pdf

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Why is income inequality so important anyways? I mean, if you are making money... why shouldn't you be able to keep it. Besides, wealthy people make money by investing in things, thus making more money and from time to time helping everyone out. Besides, you aren't bringing "prosperity to all" your just stealing is all.
 
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