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Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster?

Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Depends

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • No

    Votes: 73 85.9%
  • Total voters
    85
Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

Carjosse said:
Do you not trust the police?
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I don't have much reason to. How do I know that I will get my weapons after the disaster is over? What kind of insurance do I have to get my weapon(s) back?
 
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Oh HAIL no.



 
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I would not need the govt to help me protect my weapons in any circumstance.
 
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anonymous polls suck
 
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Carjosse said:
My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
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Nope. I'll take them with me. My firearms are a viable means of defense and hunting in the event that a hurricane destroys the town. Last time we had a serious storm, the police were nowhere to be found when they should have been directing traffic toward the evacuation routes. They can't even be trusted to do their jobs, so why would I trust them with my property?
 
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Perotista said:
If it was only my house damaged by fire, flood or what ever I would take my guns across the road to my oldest daughters house and store them there.
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That's precisely what Noah did with his .50 cal. bow and arrows before The Flood. After the flood Noah was stunned, as you would obviously be, that the floods are widespread events, not just confined to his house. :bon_voyag :lamo
 
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The Misanthrope said:
That's precisely what Noah did with his .50 cal. bow and arrows before The Flood. After the flood Noah was stunned, as you would obviously be, that the floods are widespread events, not just confined to his house. :bon_voyag :lamo
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Okay, I have just one thing to ask...

What!?!?!?
 
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The Misanthrope said:
That's precisely what Noah did with his .50 cal. bow and arrows before The Flood. After the flood Noah was stunned, as you would obviously be, that the floods are widespread events, not just confined to his house. :bon_voyag :lamo
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So good for Noah, when the ark landed on the Mountains of Ararat, he still had his .50 cal and his bow and arrows ready for what ever was out there in them their mountains. Armed and ready to protect him and his.
 
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Of all the times, why would you do it in the wake of a natural disaster?
 
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Carjosse said:
Recently the extent of the political pressure the RCMP got when it seized firearms from people's unsecured homes during the summer flooding in High River, Alberta was revealed. The Conservatives demanded the seized guns be returned to the owners. What the RCMP like to point is most of the firearms (more than 600 to be exact) they had in storage were voluntarily given to the police to be safeguarded during the disaster along with half a million rounds of ammunition. My question to you is if say your house was damaged and flooded, torn apart, burned, etc. by a natural disaster and have no safe place to store them would you surrender your firearms voluntarily to the police for safe keeping until you could return home and store them safely.
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If the choice was to leave the guns in an unsecured house where they would likely be stolen, or turn them over to the police, I'd do the latter. The cops are much more likely to give them back than the thieves would be.
 
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Perotista said:
So good for Noah, when the ark landed on the Mountains of Ararat, he still had his .50 cal and his bow and arrows ready for what ever was out there in them their mountains. Armed and ready to protect him and his.
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Protect them from what? Every animal and every human was supposed to have drowned in that universal flood. Who was left to shoot?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
If the choice was to leave the guns in an unsecured house where they would likely be stolen, or turn them over to the police, I'd do the latter. The cops are much more likely to give them back than the thieves would be.
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Not so sure about that. Some places have honest departments, but I would put the overall odds on police returning the weapons in a timely manner at 50/50, and even then, how do I know they aren't keeping a permanent log "off the books, just for future reference sake". I wish I could say that police(still people that I don't know) will uphold their oaths to the public but with some of the stunts departments have been known to pull are known to the public............I don't trust them with my property.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
If the choice was to leave the guns in an unsecured house where they would likely be stolen, or turn them over to the police, I'd do the latter. The cops are much more likely to give them back than the thieves would be.
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I have a hard time imagining such a circumstance. If I was sheltering in place, I'm keeping my guns. If I'm evacuating, 99% of the time it will be in my own vehicle(s), and I'm taking my guns with me.


Now I know guys who have such a huge collection that they could not readily transport same... but most of them also have safes that would stymie 99% of would be robbers...
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Not so sure about that. Some places have honest departments, but I would put the overall odds on police returning the weapons in a timely manner at 50/50, and even then, how do I know they aren't keeping a permanent log "off the books, just for future reference sake". I wish I could say that police(still people that I don't know) will uphold their oaths to the public but with some of the stunts departments have been known to pull are known to the public............I don't trust them with my property.
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I cannot tell you how many cases I have heard of involving cops who seized weapons under bogus (i.e. illegal) pretexts and refused to give them back short of a court order. The courts have to start treating such stuff as both criminal theft (and since it involves firearms-a federal offense under 18 USC 922 et seq) and a violation of constitutional rights under 42 USC 1983. after a few crooked cops end up being bubba's butt boy in USP Terra Haute, this sort of crap might end. BTW those clowns who rounded up guns after Katrina should be rotting in jail
 
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Goshin said:
I have a hard time imagining such a circumstance. If I was sheltering in place, I'm keeping my guns. If I'm evacuating, 99% of the time it will be in my own vehicle(s), and I'm taking my guns with me.


Now I know guys who have such a huge collection that they could not readily transport same... but most of them also have safes that would stymie 99% of would be robbers...
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If I have to abandon my house, and thieves expect to get the guns, they had better plan ahead to bring some heavy-duty equipment with them, and be prepared to stay awhile. If they are capable of staying in order to rob, I am sure as hell capable of staying to ward them off.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Protect them from what? Every animal and every human was supposed to have drowned in that universal flood. Who was left to shoot?
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He didn't know that, but that response was to Misanthrope using his scenario that he provided me. You can scroll back and take a gander.
 
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TurtleDude said:
I cannot tell you how many cases I have heard of involving cops who seized weapons under bogus (i.e. illegal) pretexts and refused to give them back short of a court order. The courts have to start treating such stuff as both criminal theft (and since it involves firearms-a federal offense under 18 USC 922 et seq) and a violation of constitutional rights under 42 USC 1983. after a few crooked cops end up being bubba's butt boy in USP Terra Haute, this sort of crap might end. BTW those clowns who rounded up guns after Katrina should be rotting in jail
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The only reason those police escaped prosecution is they claimed martial law status and really abused the hell out of not only the second but fourth amendment as well. I do wish a judge would have negated that defense, the law we passed preventing it in the future wouldn't have been necessary if the police had acted properly.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
The only reason those police escaped prosecution is they claimed martial law status and really abused the hell out of not only the second but fourth amendment as well. I do wish a judge would have negated that defense, the law we passed preventing it in the future wouldn't have been necessary if the police had acted properly.
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you know if some citizen had resisted and the cops fired and he killed one or two or three, I'd have a hard time-if sitting on a grand jury of doing anything other than no-billing
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Not so sure about that. Some places have honest departments, but I would put the overall odds on police returning the weapons in a timely manner at 50/50, and even then, how do I know they aren't keeping a permanent log "off the books, just for future reference sake". I wish I could say that police(still people that I don't know) will uphold their oaths to the public but with some of the stunts departments have been known to pull are known to the public............I don't trust them with my property.
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It would be a risk, to be sure, but I think that 50/50 odds of return are better than you would get from the thieves.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
It would be a risk, to be sure, but I think that 50/50 odds of return are better than you would get from the thieves.
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Giving them to any authorities would literally be a last resort when all other options are exhausted. I would rather bury them in the back yard in boxes than give anyone I don't personally know access to them.
 
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LaMidRighter said:
Giving them to any authorities would literally be a last resort when all other options are exhausted. I would rather bury them in the back yard in boxes than give anyone I don't personally know access to them.
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Well, hiding them or keeping them with you would be best. if the only options were as described in the OP, then the authorities would still be the safest bet.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Well, hiding them or keeping them with you would be best. if the only options were as described in the OP, then the authorities would still be the safest bet.
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In my own city that may be a possibility, the police here are professionals, some of them are real assholes, but they are professional. In a city like NYC or Chicago, no effing way.
 
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Police custody would be the absolute last place I'd want to see our guns. We'd never voluntarily let them be taken by police.
 
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As to the poll question, I doubt the choice would be voluntary. If authority figures with guns saw or knew non-authority figures had guns, there'd be a confrontation of some kind. Thus, the choice becomes involuntarily because you're faced with restraint or worse if you refuse to follow orders I.e. handing your weapons over.
 
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