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Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

Who is the most racist the left or the right?


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No matter how much they lie, the fact is that democrats perpetrated the Trail of Tears, Slavery, The Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crow, Segregation, Affirmative Racism, and the current environment of virulent, anti-white racism that premiates American society.

That democrats have changed from hating blacks, to hating whites, is not progress nor an improvement.

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I think that's absurd. Is it overcompensating for past injustices? Possibly; hell, I'll even go with "probably." But "hating"? Let's get serious.

Let me tell you a story that illustrates my point. I have posted this before on this board but long before you got here and why I believe this

In the Fall of 1980, my college nominated about 12-15 students for the Rhodes Scholarship. I was fortunate enough to be one of them. IT was suggested we attend a meeting with 4 graduate students who were former Rhodes Scholars to learn about the procedure. The four included three white men (2 at the medical school and one at the Law school) and a black man who was a 2nd year medical student. The black guy was the quietest of the four and didn't say much. One guy I knew-who ended up being a finalist for the scholarship and graduated #1 in his class at Duke Law a few years later noted to me that the "black guy probably was an affirmative action poster child" based on what I had seen at yale for almost 4 years, I figured there was much truth to that.

As the meeting broke up, the Black Rhodes Scholar came over to me and mentioned he had seen me playing table tennis at the gym (I was first singles on the club varsity team). he said he heard that the US Open was going to be at his alma mater (Princeton) later in the spring. SO I started talking to this guy. He was PHI BETA KAPPA at Princeton. He was an all-american in track, and he worked-as a volunteer-at a local hospital. he was the most qualified guy in the room. his credentials were Far Far more impressive than the three white Rhodes Scholars.

And the stigma of affirmative action hurt guys like him because unless people took the time to look into his background as I did, they are often going to assume he was a recipient of some benefits due to his race.

and another example. A guy on one of the school teams with me was a black guy who went to Exeter Academy. HIs father was a professor at a good NY Law school. He got into Yale because he was black-his middle of the class standing at Exeter was not sufficient for white applicants unless they were really good athletes (he never advanced past middle of the JV Squash team) or had massive legacy connections. He was an OK student at Yale-he graduated with about a 3.2. He told everyone he was going to get into Yale Law and he did. with a GPA about .6 of a point lower than any white guy or woman I knew who got into Yale. He got through Yale and was hired by a top top NYC law firm

he lasted about a year. One of my best friends from Law school is now a partner there. He said the black guy I knew at Yale tried his best at this $$$$ law firm but he just couldn't hang with kids who had made 4.0 grades since middle school.

Its sort of like a guy who runs 5 miles a week for 15 years trying to hang with marathoners who run 100 miles a week for 15 years. At age 25, you just cannot make up for 15 years of not working nearly as hard as people who have more talent than you have

So affirmative action got this guy two golden degrees-Yale BA and Yale JD and he ended up being a failure professionally.
 
So hilarious how liberals pick through history and claim conservative politicians as their own. They claim abe lincoln and mlk. Lol....

Then in the next breath worship lyndon b johnson or fdr.

Or say "there was a party shift".

Cmon. Its total bull****.
 
Conservatives as the name implies...and as you know are for maintaining tradition. The conservatives of old(very very very old) were certainly the ones in support of slavery. In fact, you can see it in today's voting patterns.. The south, votes red for a reason.

Yeah. So i guess lincoln was a liberal. And i guess democrats didnt make the jim crow laws
 
So hilarious how liberals pick through history and claim conservative politicians as their own. They claim abe lincoln and mlk. Lol....

Then in the next breath worship lyndon b johnson or fdr.

Or say "there was a party shift".

Cmon. Its total bull****.

That's interesting considering there's an entire thread on DP about conservatives trying to hijack JFK.

And why do you think MLK was a conservative? He certainly wasn't a Republican, or a Democrat.

http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/primarydocuments/Vol4/11-Feb-1958_InterviewAtBennett.pdf

“I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”
 
Those illustrate that perhaps AA is counterproductive; however it still doesn't equate to "hating blacks."

True, some proponents think they are actually helping blacks with that idiocy.

but I think those who actually run the Dem party are far more sinister. Its like claiming pushers are helping those they sell smack to
 
Id call out any conservative trying to hijack jfk. Jfk was a liberal democrat. But he wasnt the flaming tin hat space cadet liberal we see today.
 
Yeah. So i guess lincoln was a liberal. And i guess democrats didnt make the jim crow laws

Are you going to deny that the Southern Democrats largely left the Democratic Party after the Civil Rights Act was instituted? That support for the CRA was based on geographic lines, not party lines? That the political identity of the parties 100-150 years ago is virtually irrelevant to today? All in your futile, intellectually dishonest attempt to prove that racism is the sole province of the Democratic Party, and thus "the left"?
 
Are you going to deny that the Southern Democrats largely left the Democratic Party after the Civil Rights Act was instituted? That support for the CRA was based on geographic lines, not party lines? That the political identity of the parties 100-150 years ago is virtually irrelevant to today? All in your futile, intellectually dishonest attempt to prove that racism is the sole province of the Democratic Party, and thus "the left"?

Does the democratic party of today use race as a political pawn?
If you are honest, youd have to say yes.
 
Are you going to deny that the Southern Democrats largely left the Democratic Party after the Civil Rights Act was instituted? That support for the CRA was based on geographic lines, not party lines? That the political identity of the parties 100-150 years ago is virtually irrelevant to today? All in your futile, intellectually dishonest attempt to prove that racism is the sole province of the Democratic Party, and thus "the left"?

GOP "racism" tends to be more of a superficial reaction compared to liberal racism

GOP "racism" tends to be based on the following

reaction to the large amount of crime committed by blacks
reaction to the large numbers of blacks seen as major tax consumers
reaction to the almost monolithic Dem support by blacks

in other words-disgust at actions

while Liberal racism tends to be based on a belief that blacks can be manipulated into being wards of the Democratic elite because they are unable to function on their own
 
Does the democratic party of today use race as a political pawn?
If you are honest, youd have to say yes.

I'd say both parties use whatever they can get as political pawns, including race.
 
Oh religion stopped slavery? Please, show me?
William Wilberforce (Author of Real Christianity)

The Republican Party of that time was pro-business, supported the banks, the gold standard, railroads, and tariffs to protect industrial workers and industry
The Republican Party was based on northern white Protestants, businessmen, small business owners, professionals, factory workers, farmers, and African-Americans.
Much of those ideas are true today.

Now just add to the fact that it was the south that was pro-slavery(racist) and look at current voting patterns and it really is quite simple to figure out it was conservatives of old that were pro slavery.
It was the Democrats, certainly, but no one who holds traditional conservative views can favor slavery.

Regardless, you're making the argument that progressives were for slavery??
I doubt the word 'progressive' was in use at the time bt we do know that the 'progressives' of today want more control for the state and less for the individual.
You probably think it was the war of northern aggression. LOL
Be an adult.
 
I'd say both parties use whatever they can get as political pawns, including race.

Another 'they all do it' rationalization. You don't believe some use race more than others?
 
Another 'they all do it' rationalization. You don't believe some do it more than others?

I believe they do it in different ways. "More" is virtually impossible to quantify.
 
Yeah. So i guess lincoln was a liberal. And i guess democrats didnt make the jim crow laws

Progressives didn't make jim crow laws..
How bout we take out republican and democrat because the terms are clearly confusing you.
Think north and south... Now i'm not going to say the North was almighty and moral, but they weren't as adamant for slavery. The south was for Slavery. They JUSTIFIED slavery based on the bible contrary to what someone was saying earlier. Now to this day, the south remains more racist than any other region in our country..
Now in today's date, can you tell me what party the south generally supports? Republicans. That doesn't make Republicans the party of racists, but there is a 100% certainty to anyone not blinded by pure partisanship that the republican party has more "racists"
 
Let me tell you a story that illustrates my point. I have posted this before on this board but long before you got here and why I believe this
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So affirmative action got this guy two golden degrees-Yale BA and Yale JD and he ended up being a failure professionally.

100% certainty that AA in this case is garbage. The best and the most qualified should always get the position, scholarship, admission. The only "AA" I think should existed is $$$ for qualified students who don't have the means.
 
The Civil War is over, time to move on now.
 
I hate when people try to place racism on a particular party, or even on a party.

We as a whole are against racism. We might have different standards on what qualifies as racism (and it really matters on where you live and social norms), but in general if you hate black people or any other race, you aren't representing your political affiliation at that point, you are showing your individual nature.
 
Does the democratic party of today use race as a political pawn?
If you are honest, youd have to say yes.

And much more than Republicans too...
 
I hate when people try to place racism on a particular party, or even on a party.

We as a whole are against racism. We might have different standards on what qualifies as racism (and it really matters on where you live and social norms), but in general if you hate black people or any other race, you aren't representing your political affiliation at that point, you are showing your individual nature.

The race issue is based on politics, not 'hate'. Barrack Obama was the first to use race in the 08 elections, despite the protests of John McCain..
 
Huh, so apparently people on the right voted for the left, and people on the left voted for the right. Interesting. I'll bet no one saw that coming.
 
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