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Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

Who is the most racist the left or the right?

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aberrant85 said:
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't you all on the right ask a minority which side is more racist! I'm sure you know plenty, right? All your best friends are minorities!
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Every human is a minority. Trees are the majority.
 
aberrant85 said:
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't you all on the right ask a minority which side is more racist! I'm sure you know plenty, right? All your best friends are minorities!
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No thanks, I prefer to ask white Christian males, because there's absolutely no way whatsoever that their opinions on racial inequality would be skewed in any way.
 
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cpwill said:
Hey, what does "la raza" mean in English, anywho?
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Depends on who you ask. Can be "the race", can be "the people", can be "the community". NCLR usage is based on the latter.
 
Redress said:
Depends on who you ask. Can be "the race", can be "the people", can be "the community". NCLR usage is based on the latter.
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Google Translator says 'race'. ;)

La Raza Unida: The United Race Party


It is explicitly a racist organization. If Republicans were seeking to suck up to a group of whites advocating for guaranteed benefits to whites, separate self-government for whites, and for national white racial unity in the face of other ethnicities, the media would lose it's collective mind.
 
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cpwill said:
Google Translator says 'race'. ;)

La Raza Unida: The United Race Party


It is explicitly a racist organization. If Republicans were seeking to suck up to a group of whites advocating for guaranteed benefits to whites, separate self-government for whites, and for national white racial unity in the face of other ethnicities, the media would lose it's collective mind.
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Google translator, LoLz.

Your second link specifically mentions multiple meanings:

Partido Nacional de La Raza Unida (National United Peoples Party[SUP][1][/SUP] or United Race Party
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Also of note, according to your link, they dissolved in 1980.

Now, NCLR is still active, here is what they say about the term: National Council of La Raza | The Translation of Our Name

And this is not just NCLR’s interpretation. According to the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, “La Raza” means:
“…Mexicans or Mexican Americans considered as a group, sometimes extending to all Spanish-speaking people of the Americas.”
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A quick fact check shows this to be accurate: American Heritage Dictionary Entry: la raza

And can you document the "explicitly racist" part? Probably should start with the rather messy question of what exactly racism is. My preferred definition is the one from Wiki: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, but I would consider yours.

Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics, and especially the belief that races can be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to others, or that members of different races should be treated differently.
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It is a little higher bar than some people use, but I like that in that it makes it harder to cry racism, something you will notice I pretty much never do.
 
Kobie said:
This will not end well.
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You must be talking for your side, the left. :lamo

So far.
Left: The founders of the KKK and the party of hate. = 26
Right: Defenders of the Constitution and those who bare arms to defend America. = 21
 
Kobie said:
Right-wingers are going to say it's the left, left-wingers are going to say it's the right.
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So it is up to the Independents to tell it like it is... The Left.

Affirmative Action. Political Correctness. Can't criticize Obama.
 
aberrant85 said:
Hey, I have an idea! Why don't you all on the right ask a minority which side is more racist! I'm sure you know plenty, right? All your best friends are minorities!
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Most of the Liberals that I knew were well off yuppies drinking tea in tea houses and espousing their hatred of conservatives. Almost all were white and this was just north of you in West Sonoma County and down in the beach community's of Orange County.
 
shrubnose said:
One question: If the left is racist why do minorities shun the GOP and support the Democratic Party?

Take all the time that you need to figure out an answer,
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Because the Left has convinced minorities that the Right, in wanting to cut spending and have a smaller government, is racist and out to get them. The Democrats have created a dependent class of voters along racist lines and that alone makes them far more racist the right. That said, racists exist across the spectrum.
 
Navy Pride said:
It seems like every day that some prominent talking person from the left is making some racist comment against someone from the right especially on MSNBC.
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hi navy

of course the left wing is totally racist

because everybody is left to you:mrgreen:
 
I haven't heard either party mention the scientific fact that only one race exists.
 
In my opinion, racism should be denounced. Period. It doesn't matter how the media, pundits, politicians or celebrities is trying to present racism. What matters, is denouncing it in your own life.

The question, as asked by the OP, is based in logical fallacy. As such, cannot be answered in the manner presented, unless one wishes to engage in logical fallacy as well.
 
Bodhisattva said:
So it is up to the Independents to tell it like it is... The Left.

Affirmative Action. Political Correctness. Can't criticize Obama.
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So all you need to have is "independent" in your political lean in order to be the final arbiter of any debate?

Bam, Indpendent! And I say the Right is more racist!
 
Cardinal said:
So all you need to have is "independent" in your political lean in order to be the final arbiter of any debate?

Bam, Indpendent! And I say the Right is more racist!
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Correct. So now we are tied at 1-1. Any other Independents out there?
 
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Cardinal said:
So all you need to have is "independent" in your political lean in order to be the final arbiter of any debate?

Bam, Indpendent! And I say the Right is more racist!
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Bodhisattva said:
Correct. So now we are tied at 1-1. Any other Independents out there?
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Undisclosed here. You're both full of it. We'll take it from here.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Because the Left has convinced minorities that the Right, in wanting to cut spending and have a smaller government, is racist and out to get them. The Democrats have created a dependent class of voters along racist lines and that alone makes them far more racist the right. That said, racists exist across the spectrum.
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Ahh, the good ole democrat plantation talking point. The "minorities are so dumb they are easily manipulated white liberals" mantra. One of my favorites.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Correct. So now we are tied at 1-1. Any other Independents out there?
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Hold on, don't start without me. I have to go settle all the debates in the Abortion and Middle East sections.
 
Redress said:
Google translator, LoLz.

Your second link specifically mentions multiple meanings:



Also of note, according to your link, they dissolved in 1980.

Now, NCLR is still active, here is what they say about the term: National Council of La Raza | The Translation of Our Name



A quick fact check shows this to be accurate: American Heritage Dictionary Entry: la raza

And can you document the "explicitly racist" part? Probably should start with the rather messy question of what exactly racism is. My preferred definition is the one from Wiki: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, but I would consider yours.



It is a little higher bar than some people use, but I like that in that it makes it harder to cry racism, something you will notice I pretty much never do.
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If you really want the original Spanish definition of la raza you have to find a library that has an old Spanish dictionary from the 1700's. La Raza comes from the term of blood as in breading horses. Pure blood, as in pure blood race.

In what is California today (Alta California) prior to the Mexican-American War the "Californios" main lines of group cohesiveness were drawn by conflict with Mexican authorities. Consequently Californios had tended to emphasize regional and family loyalties more than loyalty to race or country.

When Mexico gained it's independence from Spain, they emptied their jails and used Alta California as a penal colony. These Mexicans were mestizos unlike the Californios who were European Spanish blood descendent's of the Conquistadors. These new Mexicans were considered nothing but thief's and no better than Indians. They were called "cholos."

After the Mexican-American War the La Raza movement came into being by Mexican cholos in Los Angeles (1850) with the tendency being to move from a particular allegiance to the United States towards redefining their loyalties in racial terms.

La Raza connoted racial, spiritual and blood ties with Latin America, particularly with Mexico.

Those of all of the La raza movement and organizations are nothing but Mexican nationalist.

There were many La Raza organizations over the decades, "La Raza Hispano-Americano", "La Raza Esanola", "National Council of La raza." But they all had one thing in common, they all were Mexican nationalist.

Their agenda of keeping alive the sense of Mexican patriotism, and at the same time, hold on to the Mexican culture, language and reject the Anglo-American language, customs, culture and assimilation into the American society.

La Raza, as in keeping the blood pure.
 
a351 said:
Undisclosed here. You're both full of it. We'll take it from here.
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Undisclosed is the filth of our Caste System... you take it down to the sewers. ;)
 
Bodhisattva said:
Because the Left has convinced minorities that the Right, in wanting to cut spending and have a smaller government, is racist and out to get them. The Democrats have created a dependent class of voters along racist lines and that alone makes them far more racist the right. That said, racists exist across the spectrum.
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For what it's worth, the "left" doesn't have to convince minorities of anything. Conservatives do an excellent job of that, which is why minorities reject them, and will always reject them.
 
Puigb said:
Ahh, the good ole democrat plantation talking point. The "minorities are so dumb they are easily manipulated white liberals" mantra. One of my favorites.
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You have completely misunderstood my point and assumed something instead. Want to try again?
 
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