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Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

Is Obama still a "socialist"?


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Yeah but the point was, even if Obama has socialist plans, once he got elected he found out he couldnt just talk his way into it. The lack of success is not evidence of lack of intent.
As I have said before, incrementalism is the hallmark of socialism.
 
As I have said before, incrementalism is the hallmark of socialism.

Socialism has always been part of the American fabric .. always will be.

Public = socialism.

Socialism = people first.

The capitalist fear of socialism is rooted in one word .. 'profit.'
 
I have no interest in convincing 'us' of anything. :0) NONE whatsoever.

If you don't already know the definition of socialism, it's just pointless conversation .. and I don't mind a bit of pointless conversation while I work.

Moving on then. Im here for debate, not pointless conversation.
 
Moving on then. Im here for debate, not pointless conversation.

How you failed find sane points of debate in my civilly-stated comment is beyond me.

:0) But please feel free to just move on.
 
Socialism has always been part of the American fabric .. always will be.

Public = socialism.

Socialism = people first.

The capitalist fear of socialism is rooted in one word .. 'profit.'

Cool ... so let us know how that Army thing is working out for ya with all those silly officer ranks.
 
Cool ... so let us know how that Army thing is working out for ya with all those silly officer ranks.

It's working out real well for my daughter who is looking at E-8 at near record time. :0)

If you're looking at the picture .. that's my daughter.
 
It's working out real well for my daughter who is looking at E-8 at near record time. :0)

If you're looking at the picture .. that's my daughter.

That's great ... really ... but what about fairness?
If her making Master Sgt. is record time, it means she's shutting out someone else who's been there longer.
Hardly seems like the Socialist thing to do.
In fact that whole Service rank thing must seem so wrong to you.
 
All you doing is saying people are dumb because they dont agree with you.

I've never called you or anyone else here 'dumb.'

Obama is not a socialist by any real definition of the word. He has never been anything close to a socialist.

He's prosecuted FEWER financial crimest than EITHER Reagan or Bush .. either Bush.

Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Reagan or Either Bush
Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Either Bush Presidency Washington's Blog

What 'socialist?'

Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy on steroids.

What 'socialist'?

I haven't called anyone dumb .. but I ask I obvious questions that defy the logic of what i see as just political meme.
 
Um,one more time: "When was Obama ever a Socialist, except in some far right peoples minds?

The same people that haven't been able to win an election against him, BTW.
I shouldn't have to repeat these things but it's my burden ...

Look ... you shouldn't expect someone who grew up surrounded by Socialists, Marxists, and Communists to turn out to be George Washington.

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And this guy not only adopted the politics of his mentors but he recognized that to actually implement them in a Country that didn't want them he had to, um, lie ... after all, it's the end result that matters to ideologues.
 
That's great ... really ... but what about fairness?
If her making Master Sgt. is record time, it means she's shutting out someone else who's been there longer.
Hardly seems like the Socialist thing to do.
In fact that whole Service rank thing must seem so wrong to you.

A. My daughter has her own life and thoughts. I told her .. make that demanded, that she not leave college to join the military. In spite of my own selfish desires for her life .. she's done very well, and I could not be prouder of her than I am.

B. I've been in the military myself. I don't now, nor did I then have any problems with rank, authority, or the chain of command. My problem with the military is in its civilian/MIC authority which commands them to needless wars, destruction, and mudrer for profit.

Respectfully, you seem to have a confused thinking of what socialism is or what socialist think.
 
I've never called you or anyone else here 'dumb.'

Obama is not a socialist by any real definition of the word. He has never been anything close to a socialist.

He's prosecuted FEWER financial crimest than EITHER Reagan or Bush .. either Bush.

Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Reagan or Either Bush
Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Either Bush Presidency Washington's Blog

What 'socialist?'

Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy on steroids.

What 'socialist'?

I haven't called anyone dumb .. but I ask I obvious questions that defy the logic of what i see as just political meme.

Well, let's approach it this way ... your Lean says Socialist ... and you support Barack Obama ... so ... why?
 
Well, let's approach it this way ... your Lean says Socialist ... and you support Barack Obama ... so ... why?

I'm new here, so your confusion is expected.

I am a socialist, but I did not support Obama in either of his elections. I knew Obama for what he is, a corporatist.
 
A. My daughter has her own life and thoughts. I told her .. make that demanded, that she not leave college to join the military. In spite of my own selfish desires for her life .. she's done very well, and I could not be prouder of her than I am.

B. I've been in the military myself. I don't now, nor did I then have any problems with rank, authority, or the chain of command. My problem with the military is in its civilian/MIC authority which commands them to needless wars, destruction, and mudrer for profit.

Respectfully,
you seem to have a confused thinking of what socialism is or what socialist think
.

No ... I just notice how the Socialism as applied and promoted by some doesn't always include themselves.
 
No ... I just notice how the Socialism as applied and promoted by some doesn't always include themselves.

I can respect that .. but I live it, I love it.

Why Socialism
By Albert Einstein
 
I'm new here, so your confusion is expected.

I am a socialist, but
I did not support Obama in either of his elections
. I knew Obama for what he is, a corporatist.

I see ... you just defend him on websites.
On the other hand, trying to convince people he's not a Socialist is what he's been doing sooooo...

Anyway ... if you vote for the Socialist Party candidates I encourage you to keep doing that.
 
I'm sorry, but are you using the DOW as your litmus test for a president being socialist?

Sweet mother of God, I hope you're kidding. I mean, he's not a socialist, but it's really taking some restraint on my part not to do some stuff.

Besides the Stock market ALWAYS does better under Democratic Presidents. Obama is no different.

•Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
•Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
•Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
•Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
•Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
•The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhartung/2012/10/10/want-a-better-economy-history-says-vote-democrat/
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I see ... you just defend him on websites.
On the other hand, trying to convince people he's not a Socialist is what he's been doing sooooo...

Anyway ... if you vote for the Socialist Party candidates I encourage you to keep doing that.

If you have an agenda, you should just say that.

It appears that you have a problem distinguishing from "defending Obama" and just telling the truth. There has been no bigger critic of Obama than I have been .. but unlike the right, I don't have to make **** up to criticize him.
 
I've never called you or anyone else here 'dumb.'

Obama is not a socialist by any real definition of the word. He has never been anything close to a socialist.

He's prosecuted FEWER financial crimest than EITHER Reagan or Bush .. either Bush.

Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Reagan or Either Bush
Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Either Bush Presidency Washington's Blog

What 'socialist?'

Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy on steroids.

What 'socialist'?

I haven't called anyone dumb .. but I ask I obvious questions that defy the logic of what i see as just political meme.

rhose who make this claim don't have a clue of what they're talking about.
If you don't already know the definition of socialism
How you failed find sane points of debate
Respectfully, that's ridiculous.
The notion that Obama is somehow a socialist is just silly.

and many different variations of 'no hes not" and "if you disagree your dumb'
 
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