Reasons For Impeachment

TheDemSocialist said:

Because of a bill made 3 million people loose their ****ty insurance which is essentially what the bill is supposed to do?

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Cadillac plans were not ****ty, no people with cancer that were being covered are dying needlessly, but liberal murderers don't care

Gipper said:

That's the thing though - misleading. I can't say for sure whether Obama is deceptive, or just deceptively stupid.

The latter is not a crime, and it's really hard to prove.

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Bush and his buddies went around the country for years telling us about all the WMD's that Sadaam was making and that was a lie that killed 5000 Americans. But it doesn't count because he said he "thought" they were there.
Obama thought the ACA's grandfather clause would allow policies that didn't meet ACA requirement to be extended. He also mistakenly thought that insurers would go along too. How is what Obama did worse than the goof Bush made? 5000 people haven't died from Obama's "mistake".

It's always fun watching the Right get so worked up about our Black president. That just leads to more stress for them, which has been proven to adversely affect people's health, which can shorten lifespans, which is especially important when considering that the Right disproportionately consists of older people.

So all this talk from the Left about how our country is going to become more progressive once the older crowd dies off? Keep up the hating, libertarians and conservatives. You're just accelerating the process!

iguanaman said:

Bush and his buddies went around the country for years telling us about all the WMD's that Sadaam was making and that was a lie that killed 5000 Americans. But it doesn't count because he said he "thought" they were there.
Obama thought the ACA's grandfather clause would allow policies that didn't meet ACA requirement to be extended. He also mistakenly thought that insurers would go along too. How is what Obama did worse than the goof Bush made? 5000 people haven't died from Obama's "mistake".

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Bush had faulty intelligence. Obama had good intelligence saying that what he wanted was not possible, but still went ahead so he could attach his name onto something.

Neither deserve impeachment.

However, I do enjoy your little "Bush lied, people died" red herring. Typical liberal strategy - dodge a liberal issue by vomiting partisan crap against the other side.

You'd make a great intern for Chris Matthews.

Gipper said:

Bush had faulty intelligence. Obama had good intelligence saying that what he wanted was not possible, but still went ahead so he could attach his name onto something.

Neither deserve impeachment.

However, I do enjoy your little "Bush lied, people died" red herring. Typical liberal strategy - dodge a liberal issue by vomiting partisan crap against the other side.

You'd make a great intern for Chris Matthews.

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Bush had plenty of good evidence against the existence of WMD's that he ignored because they didn't fit his agenda, just like he ignored the warnings about 911 for similar reasons. Obama was told that the old plans would be grandfathered in by the insurers since it was part of the bill but they screwed him by not following thru with it. The insurers knew full well that they could let most all they cancelled keep their plans another year but choose otherwise. Some non-profit insurers like Florida Blue thought they were doing their customers a favor by voluntarily offering the better plans that complied with the ACA only to find that it was feeding the anti-ACA frenzy. They quickly reversed themselves and reinstated all 300,000 customers when Obama asked them too. You can lead a horse to water....

JJB3333 said:

Now we've all heard that there were 3 presidents who were put up for impeachment:
1. Andrew Johnson
2. Bill Clinton
3. Richard Nixon (as a note, Nixon was never actually impeached, he just quit before he could be tried)

Now Johnson just tested the limitations of a law (the Tenure of Office act of 1867). He did this by trying to fire the Secretary of War, and that led to his trial. The house impeached him, but the senate didn't, so he stayed.

Bill Clinton admitted to having an affair after months of lying to people about it. Once again House impeached him, but the senate cleared him.

So my question is, should the disaster with obamacare, between the lying, the people loosing their healthcare, ect...,be enough to impeach Obama?

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If my memory serves correctly, Clinton didn't lie to the people, he lied under oath while on the stand in court. Huge difference.

ttwtt78640 said:

There are two big problems with trying to impeach Obama: 1) the Senate demorat majority and 2) Joe Biden.

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Well, there would be that little thing about not committing an impeachable offense, but I understand that you guys are desperate to achieve what you couldn't achieve at the ballot box by any means necessary.

Unless they make being black an impeachable offense, I think you hard right folks are out of luck.

Phys251 said:

It's always fun watching the Right get so worked up about our Black president. That just leads to more stress for them, which has been proven to adversely affect people's health, which can shorten lifespans, which is especially important when considering that the Right disproportionately consists of older people.

So all this talk from the Left about how our country is going to become more progressive once the older crowd dies off? Keep up the hating, libertarians and conservatives. You're just accelerating the process!

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Demographics are going to get them, they know it, and it makes them crazy!

Yes. But not just for this alone. But for everything else he did wrong and violating the Constitution. I'm not even sure why it hasn't happened already.

Bush bombs Baghdad on the principle that there were weapons of mass destruction which later was proven untrue. The war lasted for years and cost tons of money. Not even a peep about impeachment. Obama is threatened with impeachment for a malfunctioning website. I'm still scratching my head on this one.

Green Balls said:

Bush bombs Baghdad on the principle that there were weapons of mass destruction which later was proven untrue. The war lasted for years and cost tons of money. Not even a peep about impeachment. Obama is threatened with impeachment for a malfunctioning website. I'm still scratching my head on this one.

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A handful of people wanted Bush II impeached, but you're generally correct in pointing out the disparity. Screaming "impeachment" seems to be more of a Republican tactic.