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Poll to see if Americans even have a government that represents them

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A brainwashed society may not know this, but in order for someone to win the elections, in a civilized society, at least 50% of population has to be voting
I am a mr. nobody, you do not know me. and this poll shall prove that I am more liked by American people than any of the so called MSM American leaders. this is a multi option poll, select all that apply, you can vote for or against each candidate
 
pvsi said:
A brainwashed society may not know this, but in order for someone to win the elections, in a civilized society, at least 50% of population has to be voting
I am a mr. nobody, you do not know me. and this poll shall prove that I am more liked by American people than any of the so called MSM American leaders. this is a multi option poll, select all that apply, you can vote for or against each candidate
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I mean like... you are just wrong. Like objectively incorrect. You do not need 50% of a population to vote in order for someone to win an election.
 
Sherman123 said:
I mean like... you are just wrong. Like objectively incorrect. You do not need 50% of a population to vote in order for someone to win an election.
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Ok then, meet the leader:

 
I think you have the wrong Clinton in the poll.
 
What does the voting in this thread have to do with our government representing us or not? As far as I can tell... nothing.
 
im just saying, representation means that they get to make the choices, we just decide who makes them. Do i feel my ideas are represented, no, but they are representing us.
 
I am happy with my representatives, they have consistently fought for the things that I care about. The ones I have the most beef with are people like Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, who represent a different constituency.

I can certainly sympathize with those that feel like their vote doesn't matter. Obamacare was doing poorly in the polls before it passed, it passed with no Republican support. That tends to make people feel like their government doesn't represent their interest.
 
Paratrooper said:
I am happy with my representatives, they have consistently fought for the things that I care about. The ones I have the most beef with are people like Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, who represent a different constituency.

I can certainly sympathize with those that feel like their vote doesn't matter. Obamacare was doing poorly in the polls before it passed, it passed with no Republican support. That tends to make people feel like their government doesn't represent their interest.
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I'm glad you are feeling ok, but this poll exposes the disgrace of American government
 
personally i feel that the margin at which the representatives win their elections is unacceptable. That 50% leaves out half of the people in the town, state, or country. If a politician cannot gain the support of at least 2/3's of the voters, then they should not be elected. Especially for president.
 
JJB3333 said:
personally i feel that the margin at which the representatives win their elections is unacceptable. That 50% leaves out half of the people in the town, state, or country. If a politician cannot gain the support of at least 2/3's of the voters, then they should not be elected. Especially for president.
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I agree, in a normal world I believe there also needs to be at least 50% of population voting.
 
pvsi said:
I agree, in a normal world I believe there also needs to be at least 50% of population voting.
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of course but to do that we would need to do away with the electoral collage. People feel that their votes mean nothing when what actually elect our presidents are the electoral collage members. Now it isn't all bad, its a fairly good idea sense our voting chooses usually what they vote for, but there are like 2 states that can vote anyway they want. In order for people to feel important we need to go to a majority vote of the people.
 
JJB3333 said:
of course but to do that we would need to do away with the electoral collage. People feel that their votes mean nothing when what actually elect our presidents are the electoral collage members. Now it isn't all bad, its a fairly good idea sense our voting chooses usually what they vote for, but there are like 2 states that can vote anyway they want. In order for people to feel important we need to go to a majority vote of the people.
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I believe that today, with the media telling us winners in advance, the only way to have real elections is referendum style, where people can vote for but also against the candidate that the establishment media tells them is one of the two sure winners.
 
pvsi said:
I believe that today, with the media telling us winners in advance, the only way to have real elections is referendum style, where people can vote for but also against the candidate that the establishment media tells them is one of the two sure winners.
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I think NONE OF THE ABOVE should be an election choice. If the Republicans and Democrats give us two bum choices like they did last year, one could vote none of the above.
 
Perotista said:
I think NONE OF THE ABOVE should be an election choice. If the Republicans and Democrats give us two bum choices like they did last year, one could vote none of the above.
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It would not be enough to convince me to go back to vote after this
 
JJB3333 said:
personally i feel that the margin at which the representatives win their elections is unacceptable. That 50% leaves out half of the people in the town, state, or country. If a politician cannot gain the support of at least 2/3's of the voters, then they should not be elected. Especially for president.
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2/3rds of the vote, heck there is quite a list of presidents who didn't receive 50% of the vote.
2000 Bush 47.9%
1996 Clinton 49.2%
1992 Clinton 43.0%
1968 Nixon 43.4%
1960 JFK 49.7%

and so on. Also very rarely does a presidential candidate get over 55% of the vote let alone 67%

1984 Reagan 58.8%
1972 Nixon 60.7%
1964 LBJ 61.1%
1956 Eisenhower 57.4%
1948 Truman 49.5%
1936 FDR 60.8%

That is far back enough. Only 3 presidents has managed to obtain 60% of the popular vote. Obtaining 67% just isn't possible.
 
pvsi said:
I agree, in a normal world I believe there also needs to be at least 50% of population voting.
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We have had 50% of the people vote in presidential election every time since 1960 except once, 1996 when only 49.7% voted. For mid terms, state, county and local elections you would have to make voting mandatory and I feel we have enough dumb voters as it is who just vote for a slogan or how a candidate looks without know a darn thing about the candidate.
 
Perotista said:
For mid terms, state, county and local elections you would have to make voting mandatory and I feel we have enough dumb voters as it is who just vote for a slogan or how a candidate looks without know a darn thing about the candidate.
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And a negative vote option would allow smart people to instantly fix the mistake dumb people make in the voting booth by voting for the establishment's predicted winners.
 
pvsi said:
It would not be enough to convince me to go back to vote after this
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Nice youtube. I guess in Georgia I am lucky, I can always choose a third party candidate which I did in 68, 92,96, 2000, 04 and 12 for president. You are right, we have no fair elections here in the USA. Gerrymandering as my signature line states, lets our representatives choose their voters instead of the voters choosing their representatives. Republicans and Democrats conspire and are successful in keeping third party candidates off the ballot as you know with Nader. We are a democracy in which limited choices are preferred, where even in debates the parties pick and choose who will be allowed in. When the league of woman's voters allowed perot into the presidential debates, the two major parties quickly took the debates away from them. Now we have the so called bipartisan debate commission which guarantees no third party candidates will ever be allowed.

Due to both parties owing their hearts and souls to corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, super pac organizers, huge big money donors which give their candidates and parties millions, tens of millions of dollars to finance their campaigns. The two major parties owe their very existence to these moneyed folks whose hidden faces determines legislation passed, taxes, contracts etc. In reality we have only one political party in the United States, but it has two wings, the republican wing and the democratic wing which each wing convinces the electorate through their rhetoric that they are polar opposites. But step back and take off the dark red and blue colored glasses, put on some ear plugs and watch how they govern, both govern pretty much the same, only minor differences around the edges. Regardless of who wins, it is still business as usual, nothing changes except the names and the R and the D.

I don't blame you one bit for not voting.
 
The results to the last poll option are one of the most frightening things I have ever seen on this website.

I don't care if you think that Congress is the offspring of Satan himself. You have no right to wish violence on them. Zero. That's about as uncivilized as it gets.
 
Phys251 said:
The results to the last poll option are one of the most frightening things I have ever seen on this website.

I don't care if you think that Congress is the offspring of Satan himself. You have no right to wish violence on them. Zero. That's about as uncivilized as it gets.
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Aw geez.
 
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